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DamianJ 07-01-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20143599)

Your criticism would probably be better received if your work was in the same league as the person you're criticizing. It isn't in the same league--not even close.

That's nonsense. Anyone can criticise. Theatre critics don't make plays. Film critics don't produce films.

The issue with Maxim's "criticism" is that it isn't really criticism. It's just bitching aimed at winding people up. I guess it worked.

MaxCandy 07-01-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 20143634)
That's nonsense. Anyone can criticise. Theatre critics don't make plays. Film critics don't produce films.

The issue with Maxim's "criticism" is that it isn't really criticism. It's just bitching aimed at winding people up. I guess it worked.

Of course anyone can criticize, its about credibility, as to whether one listens or not.

As I said at the onset, i was just curious if anyone at all took the guy seriously?

For me the question has been answered clearly, Nobody takes Cherry seriously.

DeanCapture 07-01-2014 09:34 AM

There's a difference between a well crafted "heartfelt" critique and a whiny little bitch just being a whiny little bitch! Do they teach "that" in Art School? :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20143444)
Looks great!

Did you make it?

Well done if yes.

haven't worked in the film biz for 16 years max... no interest.. I think Jay Allen shoots nice looking stuff, and the nubiles films looks good as well...

Cherry7 07-01-2014 02:28 PM

Imagine that the most famous painter in France was really crap.

And he had all the awards. And other crap painters said he was great.

Would the fact that the painting were crap be damaging to;

1) Art

2) Other painters

3) people who loved paintings

In fact all three.

This is the situation in the "porn" industry, because of its semi legal status, because of criminal sales practices, because of lack of artistic status. The victory of mountains of poor content over originality and creativity.

If you think I am wrong its easy to prove post a great Max Candy scene or examples of great erotic art being produced.

Cherry7 07-01-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 20143634)
That's nonsense. Anyone can criticise. Theatre critics don't make plays. Film critics don't produce films.

The issue with Maxim's "criticism" is that it isn't really criticism. It's just bitching aimed at winding people up. I guess it worked.

Maybe my criticism is not up to your standard, but I took the trouble to buy the film, watch under ideal conditions and show it and discuss it with a couple of mainstream film makers.
My motive may have been that I was fed up in reading about "Star Wars" being the best film ever and how Muslims will take over the world, and the latest 4 K camera will make better films.

People post when they see a point to be made. The fact that a $200,000 erotic movie is a train wreck and yet people thinks its great, seems to me a point worth making.

But thank you for your comment which at least breaks the 3 figure IQ barrier.

MaxCandy 07-01-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20144064)
Imagine that the most famous painter in France was really crap.

And he had all the awards. And other crap painters said he was great.

Would the fact that the painting were crap be damaging to;

1) Art

2) Other painters

3) people who loved paintings

In fact all three.

This is the situation in the "porn" industry, because of its semi legal status, because of criminal sales practices, because of lack of artistic status. The victory of mountains of poor content over originality and creativity.

If you think I am wrong its easy to prove post a great Max Candy scene or examples of great erotic art being produced.

Nice try turning this around. LOL.

I have never said i am great, there are many better than me, its a big industry, and a bigger world - only that i am much better than you. And you Sir are a Sad Bitter Old Man.

The question was, Does Anyone here, anyone at all, take you seriously or would YOU post anything you made, that shows you remotely should be taken seriously.

The answer seems a pretty resounding no.

PS You can see my films widely and there are previews for several at MaxCandy.com

Grapesoda 07-01-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20144095)
Nice try turning this around. LOL.

I have never said i am great, there are many better than me, its a big industry, and a bigger world - only that i am much better than you. And you Sir are a Sad Bitter Old Man.

The question was, Does Anyone here, anyone at all, take you seriously or would YOU post anything you made, that shows you remotely should be taken seriously.

The answer seems a pretty resounding no.

PS You can see my films widely and there are previews for several at MaxCandy.com

not resounding at all max... no diff between the 2 of you for me :2 cents:

marcop 07-01-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20144064)
If you think I am wrong its easy to prove post a great Max Candy scene or examples of great erotic art being produced.

For all you great thinkers here on GFY, I'd like to reframe Cherry7's argument in an analytic style--in terms of Cartesian geometry. I copied this graphic from another website but added my own nomenclature to make it relevant to the current discussion... please feel free to add your comments . . . .

http://www.littlegrayguy.com/gfy/rabbitduck2.jpg

TheDA 07-02-2014 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 20143200)
Lets hope that Cherry doesn't carry over the people skills he displays in adult to his new venture, Softy Lite.

Not a product I'd be wanting to use around a porn shoot either :)

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20143266)
Softy Lite? What is that? Erotic movies made to keep you soft?

It's a small, low lux LED light panel. Not a bad looking bit of kit. If I didn't have some of my own I'd consider getting a couple. http://www.softylite.com/

Cherry7 07-02-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20144095)
Nice try turning this around. LOL.

I have never said i am great, there are many better than me, its a big industry, and a bigger world - only that i am much better than you. And you Sir are a Sad Bitter Old Man.

The question was, Does Anyone here, anyone at all, take you seriously or would YOU post anything you made, that shows you remotely should be taken seriously.

The answer seems a pretty resounding no.

PS You can see my films widely and there are previews for several at MaxCandy.com


I too have a website and if you wanted you could view all the erotic videos I have made in the same way I have watched yours.

Accusing the person making the argument of being "old, bitter, sad " or "left handed mad and green" does not change the point. Is it true that your films are poorly made?

Also as you do not know me and we have never met you do not know if I am sad and old or sitting in a bath with 2 babes singing as happy as a pig in shit.

I do not bear any ill will to anybody on this board I know only a few of them, and when I have me them at adult does everyone is puppy like.

BUT the good news...You could make a really great movie with a little bit of preparation. I am mean a movie that would show in normal cinemas and festivals.

1) Get some help with a script writer (good films are made on paper)

2) Hire a professional Czech DOP trained and experienced

3) Use less models keep the story simple.

4) get a couple of great looking models that can act.

Take a look at the Terence Malick film "To the Wonder" it is a bit of a failure but there are some really interesting ideas there that can be adapted and learnt from. Check out Czech cinema of the sixties and any mainstream film with erotic content. Add your experience with hard sexual representation.

MaxCandy 07-02-2014 08:25 AM

Cherry7 / Maxim Ford?

I never said i was the best, there are plenty of people i respect in this industry, you are not one, but i will put my work/resume up against Cherry7 any day of week.

My recent Awards/film resume..

2014
L’Innocente for Marc Dorcel / Wicked Pictures
- Best Director Max Candy / Michael Ninn – Foreign Feature AVN 2014
- Best Foreign Feature AVN 2014
- Best Sex Scene in a Foreign Shot Production AVN 2014

2013
- Named America’s Favourite Porn Director at “The Sex Awards”

Inglorious Bitches for Marc Dorcel / Wicked Pictures
- Best Foreign Director / AVN
- European Director of the Year / XBIZ
- Best International Porn / TLA Raw
- European Feature Release of the Year / XBIZ
- Parody Release of the Year (Drama) / XBIZ
- Best French Film / Vision Awards

2010
RITUAL for Marc Dorcel / Wicked Pictures
- Best Foreign Director / AVN
- Best European Film / Erotixxx / Venus Berlin

2009
Ritual for Marc Dorcel / Wicked Pictures -
- Best French Film / Hot’OR

2008
Sexual Adventures of Little Red / Private Media
- Best European Film / Erotixxx / Venus Berlin

2007
Girl Girl Studio / Private Media
- Best Lesbian Film / Ficeb Barcelona

MaxCandy 07-02-2014 08:28 AM

double post

DerekMister33 07-02-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136148)
Cherry7 is an illegal immigrant...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Cherry7 07-02-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20144839)
Cherry7 / Maxim Ford?

I never said i was the best,

Then you go on to use the word best 11 times! Irony?

Again you miss the point.

Film is a language, and you do not speak it. Is it important who tells you this?

There are a easy ways to check this. Send your film to a film festival. Show your film to a professional film maker and ask them.

Do you really think I care if I have respect from people I don't know and I can see are clueless?

People have tried to say that I am not Cherry Chapman but really someone else who works in the mainstream film industry, qualified, award winning cinematographer, director, making film lights, TV programs etc. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am a sad old bitter illegal immigrant.

MaxCandy 07-03-2014 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20145877)
Then you go on to use the word best 11 times! Irony?

Again you miss the point.

Film is a language, and you do not speak it. Is it important who tells you this?

There are a easy ways to check this. Send your film to a film festival. Show your film to a professional film maker and ask them.

Do you really think I care if I have respect from people I don't know and I can see are clueless?



No sir, you seem to miss the point, you speak as a expert with nothing to back it up.

And then insult an industry that you seem to want to be part of.

I have looked at your material, your shake it like a white girl trailer, made me laugh out loud, now i know why you will show nothing here.

Cherry7 07-03-2014 03:10 AM

As I say if you don't think I know what I am writing about show it to any real film industry professional.

The Czech film industry is very good and it would not be difficult if you asked members for their advice and comments in a modest way.


Insult the porn industry - you're kidding right?

Is there a membership requirement to join this industry?

Is you have to have failed at everything else?

MaxCandy 07-03-2014 03:25 AM

[QUOTE=Cherry7;20145997]As I say if you don't think I know what I am writing about show it to any real film industry professional.


/QUOTE]

I assume you are a real film professional?

Are you Maxim Ford or not, as other have said?

FYI http://vimeo.com/user7698840 is samples of Maxim Ford real industry work.

If you are not, please tell me if you think "Maxim Ford" is a real industry professional?

mOrrI 07-03-2014 12:03 PM

Long Discussion....

Guess many do Care :-P

oppoten 07-03-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20146007)
I assume you are a real film professional?

Are you Maxim Ford or not, as other have said?

FYI http://vimeo.com/user7698840 is samples of Maxim Ford real industry work.

If you are not, please tell me if you think "Maxim Ford" is a real industry professional?

He shouldn't have to prove that to anyone on a porn board.

Personally I don't see a similarity.

DerekMister33 07-04-2014 12:27 PM

I don't!

Cherry7 07-05-2014 09:10 AM

Discuss anything you like but lets try to avoid stalking shall we?

There are reasons why people try and keep their lives separate.


Back to the subject, shoot films to be edited and a good intro is here....




This book was translated into all the eastern europeans languages and used as a base to build their amazing film industries on....


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technique-Fi.../dp/0240521854

A great place to learn editing.

TheDA 07-05-2014 10:31 AM

I seem to remember someone trying to avoid ATVOD fees and legislation here in the UK because they claimed not to be UK based but based in Europe, somewhere like Poland. That could all change if it turned out that he was indeed based in the UK and publication of said sites happened from here in the the UK.

Cherry7 07-06-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 20148639)
I seem to remember someone trying to avoid ATVOD fees and legislation here in the UK because they claimed not to be UK based but based in Europe, somewhere like Poland. That could all change if it turned out that he was indeed based in the UK and publication of said sites happened from here in the the UK.

http://www.ruiselede.be/website/944-...a/data/rat.gif

I smell a rat.

TheDA 07-07-2014 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20149356)

If the cap fits...

MaxCandy 07-07-2014 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DerekMister33 (Post 20147922)
I don't!

Thanks for answering the question i actually asked.

Cheers

MaxC


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