Another piece. Thanks :)

Oh, there's more, and it's funny:


McArthur Wheeler
In 1995, McArthur Wheeler robbed a Fidelity Savings Bank and a Mellon Bank in Pittsburgh, PA, on the same day. According to police, he was accompanied by an accomplice, Clifton Earl Johnston. In order to disguise himself, Wheeler covered his face in lemon juice. Lemon juice has been used as a type of "invisible ink"; when used as ink on paper and allowed to dry, lemon juice only appears when heated. Wheeler used this fact as a basis to reason that placing unheated lemon juice on his face would render him invisible to bank security cameras.

Police reviewed the video of the robberies and were able to arrest Wheeler the same day. The video tape was played on the 11 o'clock news; within minutes an informant had provided police with McArthur Wheeler's name and by 12:15 AM he was in police custody. When shown the surveillance tape from the robberies, Wheeler was shocked and objected: "But I wore the juice". Wheeler had tested his lemon juice hypothesis prior to proceeding with the robberies.

After covering his face with lemon juice, he took a picture of himself using a Polaroid camera. At the time of Wheeler's arrest, he explained to one of the detectives handling his case, Sergeant Wally Long, that his face had failed to appear in the resulting photograph; a seeming confirmation of his theory. Detectives would speculate this result was caused by bad film, incorrect camera operation, or lemon juice in Mr. Wheeler's eyes.


Dunning?Kruger effect
Social psychologists Justin Kruger and David Dunning were inspired to use his case as the basis for further research on the self-assessment of competence. Of interest to the researchers was Wheeler's complete faith in his ability to foil security cameras, despite his complete lack of competence in the task. Their study in turn demonstrated that the less competent an individual is at a specific task, the more likely they are to inflate their self-appraised competence in relationship to that task. This phenomenon is popularly referred to as the Dunning?Kruger effect.

Why's everyone picking on Cherry Chapman - don't girls get a free pass to be an idiot on the internet because tits any more?

it's a dude...

I know...


http://i.imgur.com/yhE4dW8.gif

What I don't understand is why he posts examples of other peoples work that he thinks is good instead of examples of his own work he's proud of. I'm sure he's done music videos and all sorts of stuff in addition to the weird erotica.

I think he'd say if he'd done music videos, but, as I recall, he has said he assisted, which usually just means he might have carried heavy bags of lenses or placed sandbags or found out how the backup dancers take their coffee but not had any creative input.

While we are on the subject here is one of the Music Videos I directed. You might like this Amelia :thumbsup

Not sure how to embed it but here is a download link:
http://www.jayallan.com/samples/gfy/...Allan.720p.mp4

There are reason why people keep their real names off the board.

It can destroy careers and family lives.

You have been told several times about this yet you do it again.

You reveal someone s real name because you disagree with them in some thread.

You don't recall anything of the sort, you lie.

Of course the image looks fine, It would look fine on 2 K . That is not the point which you don not seem to understand.

Lenses also have an ability to resolve detail, in lines, if the lens can only resolve 1000 lines there is no point in having a system that can resolve 4000 (4k).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zN4TR6Tk3Z...Test_chart.jpg

If the lens can't resolve it the sensor is wasting its time.

Difficult to trust you now you have shown yourself to be clueless.

Hope that explains.

I almost (but not quite) feel sorry for you. You clearly have issues. I disproved your point in the very statement you quoted. You are woefully misinformed. 4k is not 4000 lines. Many consumer theaters have 4k projectors. Average consumer DSLRs shoot 16mp which is more than 4k. Kit lenses on these cheap cameras are a couple hundred bucks. 16mp images look better and are sharper than 8 MP images all things being equal. And THE 4K FOOTAGE I AM SHOOTING NOW looks way better than the 1080p stuff I shoot with the SAME LENSES. :thumbsup There are so many other factors at play other than lens resolve that it boggles my mind anyone would make such foolish broad statements as you have. I am not going to further argue with you about it because you can go on Vimeo and watch countless experts talk about the new 4k cameras that they are shooting with adapters to their old 60s Nikon lenses just like I do. :1orglaugh

That young lady seems to have had a bad evening. Really well done, but you knew that.

Reminds me how much I miss some of the Y2K nightclubs in Los Angeles, especially Pretty Ugly. You go out to any local rock clubs in LA at the moment?

Thank you! As far a rock clubs I wish I knew of a regular good one. I still hit up the Troubadour if there are good bands. Not too many good choices anymore like there used to be. :( I love going out too.

I'm no fan of Cherry7, but calling his work rapey is a bit harsh.

You're all pornographers in one form or another. I don't see the need for moral supremacism, especially when those making the most bank would appear to have zero morals at all :2 cents:

I'm going to spare us all a debate on the definition of porn and pornographer, but I stand by calling that phony's work rape-y. What else would you call poorly lit footage of a woman being drugged and assaulted? I don't know how he gets processing, other than that the billers can't stand to view every page of his tour.

I haven't looked at it in years, but I do still recall how disgusted I was when Maxim Ford tried to justify his rape themes by claiming he was actually a woman named Cherry Chapman. He actually tried to catfish his way into counting as feminist.

He is a disgrace and I'm comfortable enough in my own skin to be able to tell right from wrong. Being in some form of adult business is no excuse for being morally bankrupt.

Yes, but only if she show us them titties first! :winkwink:

This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/vid...rostarcampaign


This is a scene from the "Drugged and Rape" movie.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/chamel...Erotique11.jpg

With two well know Czech models who work to level soft girl. I reckon the film could get a 12 certificate.

Its off topic again but the editing, concept and direction of the music video is good. Was that you? I think not?

As far a DOP work, looks kinda like a camera on a tripod, no?

Anyway, back to topic, why don't you show us an erotic movie that you made and are proud of? And why you feel your an expert in erotic movie making.

He's an expert in erotic movie making just because he claims to be. Didn't you know that this is how the internet works these days? Yea - apparently, anybody can be an expert at anything and all you have to do is just act like you're an expert and talk shit about other peoples work and *BOOM* - you're a gawd-damn expert!

A little advice there Maxi-boy, I wouldn't challenge him too hard about his beliefs. Shit, he may throw up a link here to a movie that he shot that may fucking blow your mind and make you wanna retire from film making and just flip burgers for the rest of your life. He may be a diabolical genius and the rest of the world just hasn't figure it out yet and if you challenge him you may get your ass handed to you. Just a friendly warning - do you really wanna take the chance???

Or course it would be nice if every jealous hater/troll/stalker would have to put up some of their own work before criticizing the work of others but at GFY - that's never the case. Any spineless hack with a heartbeat can call themselves an expert and trash your shit and they're right and you're wrong and they're great and you suck!

Ya' just gotta love the fucking internet! Everybody is a gawd-damn expert :1orglaugh

[QUOTE=Cherry7;20141184]This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.
-Cherry7

Here is a better copy of video,
http://vimeo.com/64303738
says the DOP was Maxim Ford? Is that you?

AHHHHH! But how much fucking is there in "Monster"? Anal? BG action? GG action?



Getting good acting out of porn people is a talent in itself, getting good fucking on screen from real actors (Non-Porn People) is a talent no porn director has.



Clerks-$27,000 to make





"El Mariachi"-$7,000 to make.




Both awesome movies that were very inexpensive to shoot.


One thing they both have in common? No fucking! And I did not shoot them!



Cherry7 lets stick to the point. Post what you actually shot and move on from there. I don't want to see posts of what you saw or your buddies cousins brothers uncle shot. I want to see shit that you actually held the camera, and yelled action to.



So lets see it.



Just Dave

Yes, and in the field of erotica/porn.

Wait? WTF? You want a 12 year old to be viewing two NAKED GIRLS in a shower???


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That isn't a scene from the movie, it's a still from the movie.

And this is a parking meter in West LA:

http://www.littlegrayguy.com/gfy/fail.jpg

lol, that was funny.

Does anyone actually take "Cherry 7" seriously?

Nope, and next time you talk BS. I will and i encourage other to quote this thread.

Seems the best he.she.it can muster is total BS, off topic tech stuff or pointing out other very talented and gifted people successes. Of which no one would argue.

Yes there are many people in the WORLD, with more talent that I and the very best on this board, but you are not even close to being one of them.

Cherry, and i have never said this before but its time, go fuck yourself !

You want to see erotic films that I have made? All you need to do is follow the link below and pay your money and watch away.

How did I see "Inglorious Bitches" ? I went to a shop and bought a copy. It is an awarding winning movie. I wanted to see what the best the industry can produce, with a big budget etc.

How many of you fans of Max Candy have actually sat down and tried to watch the movie?

This as an industry has promoted quantity of quality for so long that it is no surprise how bad most of it is.

All I have done is point out with examples how, with a little bit of skill and planning, some really interesting erotic films could be made.

The reaction was to lie, insult, publish my name and just make shit up.

So the only technical / artistic threads are only ever what new bit of consumer shit to buy.

Not ideas about what is erotic, books about lighting film craft, or what would be a good story to combine with the erotic.

The idea of only allowing people with a certain qualification speak on a subject would shut this board down in a nanosecond. And there would be a few surprises on who.

The internet makes it difficult to work out who has a true understanding of any given subject, but when people just write people off they may be missing a chance to learn something that will say themselves a lot of money. Like those of us who were sceptical about 3D and understand the tech difficulties of 4k and 8K.

Go fuck yourself cherry / maxim

Not too worried he might be a diabolical genius LOL.

sure why not? as much credibility as most nics here :2 cents:

The funny thing about GFY is that everyone who matters knows who is who, and who is full of shit.

At the end of the day I don't mind anything Cherry7 posts. I don't block him or put him on ignore, I just automatically discard and skip anything Cherry7 writes about. I think anyone who who has a clue does the same.


Just Dave




Just Dave

actually David, Max's work is about as interesting to me as cherry7, so I take both with the same level of credibility :2 cents:

lol:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Im no particular fan of a lot of people work. But I highly respect the work everyone on the higher end of this business.


I may not Jerk Off to Max's work, but I'm always impressed with the quality and the attention to detail of what he shoots. That what I'm a fan of. Why? Because being a producer and shooter, i know how hard the higher end stuff is to organize and shoot. Thats some serious work to shoot what he shoots. Its not a handy cam POV shoot in an apartment style content. What Max Shoots sells! Nuff said!



And another funny thing is that I don't jerk off to the stuff I shoot. When I'm done shooting a girl, I'm done, done. Working with and getting to know the girls ruins the fantasy for me.


I like (When I jerk Off) poorly shot, poorly lit amateur porn (Where I don't know the guy or the girl). lol



Had this conversation with Jay Allan on the phone the other day. Was a funny conversation. Jay is one of the very best best shooters in his genera (Glam-Core). What he jerks off to is very different to what he shoots.


All because I don't Jerk off to what Jay shoots, does not mean I don't have absolute respect for him and what he shoots.


When I have a DSLR, Nikon, Canon, lighting questions, I will not hesitate to call Jay. Why? Because of the respect I have for him, his knowledge, his background, work ethics, etc.


The few conversations I had in person with Max(Great guy!), he too impresses me with his vast production knowledge and experience. Max=Knows his shit!!!



And Grapesoda; We are friends, we talk on the phone quite frequently. You know your shit, you are good at what you do. Especially when it comes to Nikon. I don't jerk off to what you shoot either. Doesn't mean I don't respect you and your skills as a shooter.


The funny thing is that Grapesoda is a really good guy, knowledgeable guy, Class act type of guy, etc; He just comes off wrong on GFY at times. lol


Thats GFY for ya:thumbsup


Just Dave

Me too! What I can't stand are jealous haters like Cherry who see people like Max getting attention for his work and then they decide to attack his work in public in an effort to ruin his name & reputation. I would have more respect for Cherry if he had reached out to Max directly via email to have that conversation. But because Cherry is a drama queen, he decided attacking Max's work publicly was the best option. :321GFY

TMI :Oh crap

That was my experience as well. Super nice guy and loves to talk shop! If Cherry wasn't such a fucking hater/troll, I imagine he and Max could have had some great conversation about filmmaking. Hard to have a conversation with a hater who feels the need to attack you in public though.


He's a good guy, with a good heart and one of the few people in the world that I would trust with my life. But some days he's bat-shit crazy and I can't stand to be on the same planet as him :1orglaugh

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

And the sad truth is that whether we're shooting high production value porn like Max, or "poorly shot, poorly lit amateur porn", our most satisfied viewers are only watching 3-4 minutes of our work before cleaning themselves up and going on with their lives.

David, Dean... it's all good, possibly I have a different set of standards from working on films with 100 mil budgets and stuff... and honestly I have no interest in porn... I shoot for money.. you guys know that... never even saw cherry7 stuff or max's stuff.. got absolutely no interest al all.. I've seen you and Deano shoot some cool stuff however I don't watch it.. I do understand the effort invested... and I do understand the emotional investment... just not my thing at all... in fact shooting sex always made me a bit sick to my stomach.. you guys know that

as shooters we are all judged by the crudest low quality stuff out there Marco :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

I disagree on quality it depends on who you are selling too.

I will agree that currently the biggest part of market does not seem to care about technical quality, but broadcast cable does, HD sites do, also with the rise of so many high end erotica sites more people do to. The tide is turning, The future is crude and perverted, but well shot.

Lets hope that Cherry doesn't carry over the people skills he displays in adult to his new venture, Softy Lite.

Not a product I'd be wanting to use around a porn shoot either :)

Softy Lite? What is that? Erotic movies made to keep you soft?

Here are links to the trailers for a few of my recent movies, ones i am most proud of

http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi.../The_Ingenuous
http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi.../The_last_shag
http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi...h_little_bitch
http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi.../My_first_orgy
http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi...orious_Bitches
http://www.dorcelvision.com/en/studi...993/Army_Girls

I like the stills being shot in the US for paper street however I doubt very much the videos match that look.... very very very seldom do stills match the video OR they would use screencaps..... with the advent on dslr, yes many shooters have the ability to 'mimic' film so yes, we will see this in porn just like we see it now with low quality poorly written mainstream or broadcast cable films... I have no idea how it will turn out... more than likley porn and the internet will be banned because it upsets muslims anyway :2 cents:

movies look like this Max :2 cents:

Looks great!

Did you make it?

Well done if yes.

The first thing anyone learns in an art school or any creative endeavour is how to take criticism and receive it.

It is the most valuable resource.

I understand that you all swim in your little pond and pretend to be big fish but the product you produce is watched on the same TVs as well made programs and it does not make the grade.

Max Candy is no shrinking violet. He claims to be one of the best erotic film makers.

There were some really good erotic films made back in the day. They broke out of the ghetto to reach a wide audience. They were good films in their own right.

If you think that the films being made are the best that can be made, or even that they are exceptable you are the ones that show yourselves to know nothing.

Here is a movie with acting as bad as a Max Candy film

BarbiesWashdayHQ

I really appreciate sincere criticism from people I respect and/or take seriously.

People that are positive in their intent.

Not obviously talentless sad bitter old men, that clearly are motivated by jealously and/or a need to make themselves feel better are others expense.

And one of the first things one learns as a creative person is that it's much easier to criticize than to create.

Your criticism would probably be better received if your work was in the same league as the person you're criticizing. It isn't in the same league--not even close.

i am happy that all this doesn't matter at all to me

i just want my invoices paid