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CDSmith 06-27-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kittykatt (Post 20137092)
I didn't notice a "cherry7" until this post, therefore the irrelevance is irrelevant. :anon

^^ This. ^^

Beyond vague memories of crossing paths with the entity "cherry7" in a few threads over the past few years the whole issue means nothing to me.

Taking most of the crap posted here seriously has never been a profitable venture anyway. Why some do it I'll never know.

CDSmith 06-27-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20139300)
I take cherry7 seriously.

When I want a seriously good laugh at a true dimwit, I only need to read a cherry7 post.

Or maybe this is what I've been doing. I don't know, haven't been paying serious attention enough to it to know. :winkwink:

baddog 06-27-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20136132)
I am curious, does anyone here on GFY actually take "Cherry 7" seriously?

I certainly do not.

He seems like a jealous child that likes to criticize me and others in content just to make himself feel better.

Sad really.

I thought he was a she; I guess I may have a better understanding of what a sorry person he must be now.


Thanks . . . I think.

bushwacker 06-27-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20139642)
I thought he was a she; I guess I may have a better understanding of what a sorry person he must be now.


Thanks . . . I think.

Ditto, I thought cherry was a chick. :Oh crap

AmeliaG 06-27-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20139642)
I thought he was a she; I guess I may have a better understanding of what a sorry person he must be now.


Thanks . . . I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 20139676)
Ditto, I thought cherry was a chick. :Oh crap


Yeah, he tried to justify his poorly-made rape-y amateur porn by saying that he was a woman named Cherry Chapman, but he is actually a man named Maxim Ford.

marcop 06-27-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20139977)
Yeah, he tried to justify his poorly-made rape-y amateur porn by saying that he was a woman named Cherry Chapman, but he is actually a man named Maxim Ford.

This sounds like a textbook example of the Dunning?Kruger Effect.

JayAllan 06-27-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20139299)
What do you mean by cover?

I would understand it as producing an image over the whole of the sensor.

If that is what you mean it is nonsense as we were talking about lens resolution.

Remember you said the very funny thing ;

" A lens is a piece of glass, pretty sure it can resolve at any pixel count." MaxCandy

Hilarious.

Lens resolution the ability of a lens to reproduce detail. To which the there practical result and there is a limit due to the laws of physics, so there will not be 8K 16K 32K ad invinitum

The ability of a lens to resolve detail, just like 4k is factor in the over all quality of the motion picture image, a factor amongst many many many others.

The point about that film "Monsters" is;

It was shot with a smaller budget than your film.

It was shot with just a Sony EX 3.

It looks better than your film. Its acted better than your film. it is a better film.

Therefore? 2 + 2 =

..................

Are you saying that you can say that you are a great award making film maker but the only people who allowed to criticise are your betters?

Oh wow. :1orglaugh

You are an idiot. You come on here and bash people who are clearly shooting better material than you and then show other people's content to back up your claims (and not your own footage) and then talk glass resolution. :error:error:error

People shoot with 60 year old Nikon lenses on Red Epics at 6k all the time. Are you really that clueless? Trust me I know what I am talking about too. The image looks fine in the cinema and at the end of the day that is all that counts. :2 cents:

Not to mention even cheap Canon EOS kits you can buy at Best Buy shoot images that are higher than 4k. SMH

JayAllan 06-27-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20140028)
This sounds like a textbook example of the Dunning?Kruger Effect.

I had to look it up but YES! :)

AmeliaG 06-27-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan (Post 20140068)
I had to look it up but YES! :)


Ha, ha, yeah, what Jay said :thumbsup

MaxCandy 06-28-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20140028)
This sounds like a textbook example of the Dunning?Kruger Effect.

I had to look it up too.

From Wiki

The Dunning?Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in two principal ways:

Unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.[1]
Those persons to whom a skill or set of skills come easily may find themselves with weak self-confidence, as they may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. See Impostor syndrome.



Yes, that must be it.

Jel 06-28-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20139977)
Yeah, he tried to justify his poorly-made rape-y amateur porn by saying that he was a woman named Cherry Chapman, but he is actually a man named Maxim Ford.

Another piece. Thanks :)

marcop 06-28-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20140353)
Yes, that must be it.

Oh, there's more, and it's funny:


McArthur Wheeler
In 1995, McArthur Wheeler robbed a Fidelity Savings Bank and a Mellon Bank in Pittsburgh, PA, on the same day. According to police, he was accompanied by an accomplice, Clifton Earl Johnston. In order to disguise himself, Wheeler covered his face in lemon juice. Lemon juice has been used as a type of "invisible ink"; when used as ink on paper and allowed to dry, lemon juice only appears when heated. Wheeler used this fact as a basis to reason that placing unheated lemon juice on his face would render him invisible to bank security cameras.

Police reviewed the video of the robberies and were able to arrest Wheeler the same day. The video tape was played on the 11 o'clock news; within minutes an informant had provided police with McArthur Wheeler's name and by 12:15 AM he was in police custody. When shown the surveillance tape from the robberies, Wheeler was shocked and objected: "But I wore the juice". Wheeler had tested his lemon juice hypothesis prior to proceeding with the robberies.

After covering his face with lemon juice, he took a picture of himself using a Polaroid camera. At the time of Wheeler's arrest, he explained to one of the detectives handling his case, Sergeant Wally Long, that his face had failed to appear in the resulting photograph; a seeming confirmation of his theory. Detectives would speculate this result was caused by bad film, incorrect camera operation, or lemon juice in Mr. Wheeler's eyes.


Dunning?Kruger effect
Social psychologists Justin Kruger and David Dunning were inspired to use his case as the basis for further research on the self-assessment of competence. Of interest to the researchers was Wheeler's complete faith in his ability to foil security cameras, despite his complete lack of competence in the task. Their study in turn demonstrated that the less competent an individual is at a specific task, the more likely they are to inflate their self-appraised competence in relationship to that task. This phenomenon is popularly referred to as the Dunning?Kruger effect.

ottopottomouse 06-28-2014 10:39 AM

Why's everyone picking on Cherry Chapman - don't girls get a free pass to be an idiot on the internet because tits any more?

MaDalton 06-28-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20140430)
Why's everyone picking on Cherry Chapman - don't girls get a free pass to be an idiot on the internet because tits any more?

it's a dude...

ottopottomouse 06-28-2014 10:48 AM

I know...


http://i.imgur.com/yhE4dW8.gif

ottopottomouse 06-28-2014 10:52 AM

What I don't understand is why he posts examples of other peoples work that he thinks is good instead of examples of his own work he's proud of. I'm sure he's done music videos and all sorts of stuff in addition to the weird erotica.

AmeliaG 06-28-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20140439)
What I don't understand is why he posts examples of other peoples work that he thinks is good instead of examples of his own work he's proud of. I'm sure he's done music videos and all sorts of stuff in addition to the weird erotica.


I think he'd say if he'd done music videos, but, as I recall, he has said he assisted, which usually just means he might have carried heavy bags of lenses or placed sandbags or found out how the backup dancers take their coffee but not had any creative input.

JayAllan 06-28-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20140439)
What I don't understand is why he posts examples of other peoples work that he thinks is good instead of examples of his own work he's proud of. I'm sure he's done music videos and all sorts of stuff in addition to the weird erotica.

While we are on the subject here is one of the Music Videos I directed. You might like this Amelia :thumbsup

Not sure how to embed it but here is a download link:
http://www.jayallan.com/samples/gfy/...Allan.720p.mp4

Cherry7 06-28-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20140565)
I think he'd say if he'd done music videos, but, as I recall, he has said he assisted, which usually just means he might have carried heavy bags of lenses or placed sandbags or found out how the backup dancers take their coffee but not had any creative input.

There are reason why people keep their real names off the board.

It can destroy careers and family lives.

You have been told several times about this yet you do it again.

You reveal someone s real name because you disagree with them in some thread.

You don't recall anything of the sort, you lie.

Cherry7 06-28-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan (Post 20140059)
Oh wow. :1orglaugh

You are an idiot.
People shoot with 60 year old Nikon lenses on Red Epics at 6k all the time. Are you really that clueless? Trust me I know what I am talking about too. The image looks fine in the cinema and at the end of the day that is all that counts. :2 cents:

Not to mention even cheap Canon EOS kits you can buy at Best Buy shoot images that are higher than 4k. SMH


Of course the image looks fine, It would look fine on 2 K . That is not the point which you don not seem to understand.

Lenses also have an ability to resolve detail, in lines, if the lens can only resolve 1000 lines there is no point in having a system that can resolve 4000 (4k).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zN4TR6Tk3Z...Test_chart.jpg

If the lens can't resolve it the sensor is wasting its time.

Difficult to trust you now you have shown yourself to be clueless.

Hope that explains.

JayAllan 06-28-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20140677)
Of course the image looks fine, It would look fine on 2 K . That is not the point which you don not seem to understand.

Lenses also have an ability to resolve detail, in lines, if the lens can only resolve 1000 lines there is no point in having a system that can resolve 4000 (4k).

If the lens can't resolve it the sensor is wasting its time.

Difficult to trust you now you have shown yourself to be clueless.

Hope that explains.

I almost (but not quite) feel sorry for you. You clearly have issues. I disproved your point in the very statement you quoted. You are woefully misinformed. 4k is not 4000 lines. Many consumer theaters have 4k projectors. Average consumer DSLRs shoot 16mp which is more than 4k. Kit lenses on these cheap cameras are a couple hundred bucks. 16mp images look better and are sharper than 8 MP images all things being equal. And THE 4K FOOTAGE I AM SHOOTING NOW looks way better than the 1080p stuff I shoot with the SAME LENSES. :thumbsup There are so many other factors at play other than lens resolve that it boggles my mind anyone would make such foolish broad statements as you have. I am not going to further argue with you about it because you can go on Vimeo and watch countless experts talk about the new 4k cameras that they are shooting with adapters to their old 60s Nikon lenses just like I do. :1orglaugh

AmeliaG 06-28-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan (Post 20140631)
While we are on the subject here is one of the Music Videos I directed. You might like this Amelia :thumbsup

Not sure how to embed it but here is a download link:
http://www.jayallan.com/samples/gfy/...Allan.720p.mp4


That young lady seems to have had a bad evening. Really well done, but you knew that.

Reminds me how much I miss some of the Y2K nightclubs in Los Angeles, especially Pretty Ugly. You go out to any local rock clubs in LA at the moment?

JayAllan 06-28-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20140715)
That young lady seems to have had a bad evening. Really well done, but you knew that.

Reminds me how much I miss some of the Y2K nightclubs in Los Angeles, especially Pretty Ugly. You go out to any local rock clubs in LA at the moment?

Thank you! As far a rock clubs I wish I knew of a regular good one. I still hit up the Troubadour if there are good bands. Not too many good choices anymore like there used to be. :( I love going out too.

oppoten 06-28-2014 07:21 PM

I'm no fan of Cherry7, but calling his work rapey is a bit harsh.

You're all pornographers in one form or another. I don't see the need for moral supremacism, especially when those making the most bank would appear to have zero morals at all :2 cents:

AmeliaG 06-29-2014 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20140776)
I'm no fan of Cherry7, but calling his work rapey is a bit harsh.

You're all pornographers in one form or another. I don't see the need for moral supremacism, especially when those making the most bank would appear to have zero morals at all :2 cents:


I'm going to spare us all a debate on the definition of porn and pornographer, but I stand by calling that phony's work rape-y. What else would you call poorly lit footage of a woman being drugged and assaulted? I don't know how he gets processing, other than that the billers can't stand to view every page of his tour.

I haven't looked at it in years, but I do still recall how disgusted I was when Maxim Ford tried to justify his rape themes by claiming he was actually a woman named Cherry Chapman. He actually tried to catfish his way into counting as feminist.

He is a disgrace and I'm comfortable enough in my own skin to be able to tell right from wrong. Being in some form of adult business is no excuse for being morally bankrupt.

Adraco 06-29-2014 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 20140430)
Why's everyone picking on Cherry Chapman - don't girls get a free pass to be an idiot on the internet because tits any more?

Yes, but only if she show us them titties first! :winkwink:

MasterBlow 06-29-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 20140963)
Yes, but only if she show us them titties first! :winkwink:

http://i.imgur.com/ZaMvMYJ.gif

Cherry7 06-29-2014 09:26 AM

This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/vid...rostarcampaign


This is a scene from the "Drugged and Rape" movie.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/chamel...Erotique11.jpg

With two well know Czech models who work to level soft girl. I reckon the film could get a 12 certificate.

MaxCandy 06-29-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20141184)
This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/vid...rostarcampaign

Its off topic again but the editing, concept and direction of the music video is good. Was that you? I think not?

As far a DOP work, looks kinda like a camera on a tripod, no?

Anyway, back to topic, why don't you show us an erotic movie that you made and are proud of? And why you feel your an expert in erotic movie making.

DeanCapture 06-29-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 20141365)
.....why don't you show us an erotic movie that you made and are proud of? And why you feel your an expert in erotic movie making.

He's an expert in erotic movie making just because he claims to be. Didn't you know that this is how the internet works these days? Yea - apparently, anybody can be an expert at anything and all you have to do is just act like you're an expert and talk shit about other peoples work and *BOOM* - you're a gawd-damn expert!

A little advice there Maxi-boy, I wouldn't challenge him too hard about his beliefs. Shit, he may throw up a link here to a movie that he shot that may fucking blow your mind and make you wanna retire from film making and just flip burgers for the rest of your life. He may be a diabolical genius and the rest of the world just hasn't figure it out yet and if you challenge him you may get your ass handed to you. Just a friendly warning - do you really wanna take the chance???

Or course it would be nice if every jealous hater/troll/stalker would have to put up some of their own work before criticizing the work of others but at GFY - that's never the case. Any spineless hack with a heartbeat can call themselves an expert and trash your shit and they're right and you're wrong and they're great and you suck!

Ya' just gotta love the fucking internet! Everybody is a gawd-damn expert :1orglaugh

MaxCandy 06-29-2014 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=Cherry7;20141184]This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.
-Cherry7

Here is a better copy of video,
http://vimeo.com/64303738
says the DOP was Maxim Ford? Is that you?

JustDaveXxx 06-29-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20139299)
The point about that film "Monsters" is;

It was shot with a smaller budget than your film.

It was shot with just a Sony EX 3.

It looks better than your film. Its acted better than your film. it is a better film.

Therefore? 2 + 2 =

..................

Are you saying that you can say that you are a great award making film maker but the only people who allowed to criticise are your betters?



AHHHHH! But how much fucking is there in "Monster"? Anal? BG action? GG action?



Getting good acting out of porn people is a talent in itself, getting good fucking on screen from real actors (Non-Porn People) is a talent no porn director has.



Clerks-$27,000 to make





"El Mariachi"-$7,000 to make.




Both awesome movies that were very inexpensive to shoot.


One thing they both have in common? No fucking! And I did not shoot them!



Cherry7 lets stick to the point. Post what you actually shot and move on from there. I don't want to see posts of what you saw or your buddies cousins brothers uncle shot. I want to see shit that you actually held the camera, and yelled action to.



So lets see it.



Just Dave

MaxCandy 06-30-2014 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20141540)



Cherry7 lets stick to the point. Post what you actually shot and move on from there. I don't want to see posts of what you saw or your buddies cousins brothers uncle shot. I want to see shit that you actually held the camera, and yelled action to.



So lets see it.



Just Dave


Yes, and in the field of erotica/porn.

CurrentlySober 06-30-2014 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20141184)
This is the video Amelia is talking about



I was the DOP and I built and designed the computer controlled cameras.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/vid...rostarcampaign


This is a scene from the "Drugged and Rape" movie.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/chamel...Erotique11.jpg

With two well know Czech models who work to level soft girl. I reckon the film could get a 12 certificate.

Wait? WTF? You want a 12 year old to be viewing two NAKED GIRLS in a shower???


:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme: helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

:error

marcop 06-30-2014 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20141184)
This is a scene from the "Drugged and Rape" movie.

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/chamel...Erotique11.jpg

That isn't a scene from the movie, it's a still from the movie.

And this is a parking meter in West LA:

http://www.littlegrayguy.com/gfy/fail.jpg

MaxCandy 06-30-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20142033)
That isn't a scene from the movie, it's a still from the movie.

And this is a parking meter in West LA:

http://www.littlegrayguy.com/gfy/fail.jpg


lol, that was funny.

MaxCandy 06-30-2014 08:45 AM

Does anyone actually take "Cherry 7" seriously?

Nope, and next time you talk BS. I will and i encourage other to quote this thread.

Seems the best he.she.it can muster is total BS, off topic tech stuff or pointing out other very talented and gifted people successes. Of which no one would argue.

Yes there are many people in the WORLD, with more talent that I and the very best on this board, but you are not even close to being one of them.

Cherry, and i have never said this before but its time, go fuck yourself !

Cherry7 06-30-2014 09:26 AM

You want to see erotic films that I have made? All you need to do is follow the link below and pay your money and watch away.

How did I see "Inglorious Bitches" ? I went to a shop and bought a copy. It is an awarding winning movie. I wanted to see what the best the industry can produce, with a big budget etc.

How many of you fans of Max Candy have actually sat down and tried to watch the movie?

This as an industry has promoted quantity of quality for so long that it is no surprise how bad most of it is.

All I have done is point out with examples how, with a little bit of skill and planning, some really interesting erotic films could be made.

The reaction was to lie, insult, publish my name and just make shit up.

So the only technical / artistic threads are only ever what new bit of consumer shit to buy.

Not ideas about what is erotic, books about lighting film craft, or what would be a good story to combine with the erotic.

The idea of only allowing people with a certain qualification speak on a subject would shut this board down in a nanosecond. And there would be a few surprises on who.

The internet makes it difficult to work out who has a true understanding of any given subject, but when people just write people off they may be missing a chance to learn something that will say themselves a lot of money. Like those of us who were sceptical about 3D and understand the tech difficulties of 4k and 8K.

MaxCandy 06-30-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20142267)

The reaction was to lie,
= Cherry7

What did i lie about?
=Max

insult,
=Cherry

yes thats true, i do think your a sad bitter idiot
=Max

publish my name
=Cherry

So you are Maxim Ford, it was a question I proposed after YOU showed a video that you said you were the DOP.

http://vimeo.com/64303738
Director: Jes Benstock
and says the DOP was Maxim Ford? Is that you or not?



and just make shit up.
=cherry

Like what?
=Max


.

Go fuck yourself cherry / maxim

MaxCandy 06-30-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 20141442)
He's an expert in erotic movie making just because he claims to be. Didn't you know that this is how the internet works these days? Yea - apparently, anybody can be an expert at anything and all you have to do is just act like you're an expert and talk shit about other peoples work and *BOOM* - you're a gawd-damn expert!

A little advice there Maxi-boy, I wouldn't challenge him too hard about his beliefs. Shit, he may throw up a link here to a movie that he shot that may fucking blow your mind and make you wanna retire from film making and just flip burgers for the rest of your life. He may be a diabolical genius and the rest of the world just hasn't figure it out yet and if you challenge him you may get your ass handed to you. Just a friendly warning - do you really wanna take the chance???

Or course it would be nice if every jealous hater/troll/stalker would have to put up some of their own work before criticizing the work of others but at GFY - that's never the case. Any spineless hack with a heartbeat can call themselves an expert and trash your shit and they're right and you're wrong and they're great and you suck!

Ya' just gotta love the fucking internet! Everybody is a gawd-damn expert :1orglaugh

Not too worried he might be a diabolical genius LOL.


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