Would You Sign Up With A Sponsor That Only Pays 20% - GoFuckYourself.com

NastyJack · 03-09-2003, 03:16 PM

20%

When I had first signed up with them I thought that I would be getting 50% and since they have fantastic promotional content I was extremely pleased - but now that I realize that there only paying me 20% I'm not feeling that pleased about promoting them.

I get good bookmarks since there content is automatically updated daily on my site and I always get paid on time and all but 20% sounds like a joke when I think about it.

Anyway, would you keep pushing a sponsor that only pays 20% or would you drop them?

Regards
NastyJack

eRock · 03-09-2003, 03:20 PM

I'd drop 'em unless it converts like crazy...

Dildozer · 03-09-2003, 03:22 PM

20% That's ridiculously LOW
those are some greedy program owners lol

FetishTemptress · 03-09-2003, 03:33 PM

No way would I promote...not worth my time or energy
I pay out 50-60 % myself

FT**

HungSolo · 03-09-2003, 03:36 PM

depends on the sponsor. Most 'tangible goods' programs (like sex toys) will offer a commission close to that.

BritishTwinks · 03-09-2003, 03:36 PM

20% is certainly very low but it doesn't tell the whole story. What are rebills like? How highly do you value their free content? etc. etc.

gothweb · 03-09-2003, 03:37 PM

20% isn't a lot. However, if you're making money, you're making money. Could you make more by replacing it? If not, it's sortof an academic point.

NastyJack · 03-09-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
20% isn't a lot. However, if you're making money, you're making money. Could you make more by replacing it? If not, it's sortof an academic point.

You put your finger right on it!

I'm making money with them so I'm kinda worried about replacing them with another sponsor but 20% isn't very encouraging.

They have fantastic content and all but I can't help but wonder if I would make more money if I pushed another sponsor in there place.

I guess I should try huh!

Regards
NastyJack

demented · 03-09-2003, 04:55 PM

stocktrader23 · 03-09-2003, 04:57 PM

Is it just me or is NastyJack making alot more sense lately?

demented · 03-09-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Is it just me or is NastyJack making alot more sense lately?

I think he's just trying really really hard.

stocktrader23 · 03-09-2003, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by demented

I think he's just trying really really hard.

I don't know seems like an entirely different person talking.

NastyJask, whatever you're doing or not doing lately keep it up. You'll have a much better time on the boards with your new persona.

Mutt · 03-09-2003, 05:02 PM

there is no paysite that good that you can't find something to replace it with another one to promote that is very similar and will pay out minimally twice as much.

what is the paysite you're promoting?

Marcus · 03-09-2003, 05:05 PM

I had a sponsor suddenly move me from 50% down to 25% and they said they did that for everyone and it's within their rights from the agreement I signed.

fuck that. greedy motherfuckers

maxjohan · 03-09-2003, 05:19 PM

sounds like a newbie...right guys?

NastyJack · 03-09-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
what is the paysite you're promoting?

I don't think I should say in this thread since they have been good to me and I don't want to discourage anyone from signing up with them.

What I would like to say is before you sign up with a sponsor be sure to read the terms and don't assume anything.

Otherwise you may end up building your site around them at your own lost.

Regards
NastyJack

Xenophage · 03-09-2003, 05:30 PM

depends on how much money is coming in !

I would much rather have 20% of $500 than 50% of $40

Bottom line in this biz is send traffic If it pays you more money than the next guy then keep it if not dump it. If they give you content and bookmarkers then there is something worth value there ! Also you have to give each program an honest shot. I walways test sponsors with small traffic for a few weeks to see the results. Just in case a biller is down or some glitch here or there. So many different factors. Someone posted a thread about standard deviation on paysites as well. It basically said that if you get 1 sale in 500 it is just as probable that you could go 3000 and see no sales.. or go 500 and see 3 sales. Just random luck of the draw. And that would make one sponsor seem better than another in the short run ! Also dont put all your eggs in one basket or you will feel the pinch of your sponsor going out of biz. Remember DMR

Eventually anotehr 3rd party biller will up and fail donthave all your sponsors using only one biller or you will get rocked as well. Processors are very important key to sales..

Xenophage · 03-09-2003, 05:34 PM

I pay both 20% for my live feeds and 50% for my paysites...

the difference is on the feeds I have to pay the chicks 40-50% and the processing and overhead you figure it out there is not enough room to go any higher for me than 20% on live. But our averrage user spends $700 thats $140 comission but then again ya have to wait a year to get it out of them. And webmasters want it all and they want it up front

Paysites I can pay 50% i could pay more cuzz there really is very little overhead in paysites. Content and updating and whatnot not a lot of work. Marketing is the biggest cost !

EscortBiz · 03-09-2003, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
depends on how much money is coming in !

I would much rather have 20% of $500 than 50% of $40

Bottom line in this biz is send traffic If it pays you more money than the next guy then keep it if not dump it. If they give you content and bookmarkers then there is something worth value there ! Also you have to give each program an honest shot. I walways test sponsors with small traffic for a few weeks to see the results. Just in case a biller is down or some glitch here or there. So many different factors. Someone posted a thread about standard deviation on paysites as well. It basically said that if you get 1 sale in 500 it is just as probable that you could go 3000 and see no sales.. or go 500 and see 3 sales. Just random luck of the draw. And that would make one sponsor seem better than another in the short run ! Also dont put all your eggs in one basket or you will feel the pinch of your sponsor going out of biz. Remember DMR Eventually anotehr 3rd party biller will up and fail donthave all your sponsors using only one biller or you will get rocked as well. Processors are very important key to sales..

EXACTLY!

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-09-2003, 05:43 PM

If your making them good money contact them and ask them to raise that 20%. If they dont want to lose you, they will raise it.
They always raise mine when I ask

.

good luck,
Ray

Mutt · 03-09-2003, 05:58 PM

yup, camgirl sites can't pay out the same % as a paysite. move sites might find they can't make money either paying 50% - depends on how many movies they have available.

xxxinnovations · 03-09-2003, 06:02 PM

are you promoting a webcam site?

NastyJack · 03-09-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxinnovations
are you promoting a webcam site?

No - the sponsor in question is not a webcam site.

The only reason I could see why they only pay out 20% is that they have fantastic promotional content and they automatically update it on my site daily.

That in itself is worth something but I don't see it being worth 30% of my sales. I would much rather that they update the content once a week and upgrade my percentage.

Regards
NastyJack

Brad Mitchell · 03-09-2003, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CashAddict
20% is certainly very low but it doesn't tell the whole story. What are rebills like? How highly do you value their free content? etc. etc.

Agreed.

DeviantZ · 03-09-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack

You put your finger right on it!

I'm making money with them so I'm kinda worried about replacing them with another sponsor but 20% isn't very encouraging.

They have fantastic content and all but I can't help but wonder if I would make more money if I pushed another sponsor in there place.

I guess I should try huh!

Regards
NastyJack

Sounds simplistic but try e-mailing the program admin. I have dozens (probably hundreds) of partners that I have negotiated custom %'ages and deals with over the past few years even if they aren't whales. (we start @ 50%).

A good program operator will realize that if you a productive partner @ 20% then by god you'll sell your ass off for 40%+. IMHO

just my thoughsts.

Steve

xxxinnovations · 03-09-2003, 06:40 PM

i'd like to know who only pays 20% b/c i'd be the fuck out if it were just a normal site

gothweb · 03-09-2003, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack

No - the sponsor in question is not a webcam site.

The only reason I could see why they only pay out 20% is that they have fantastic promotional content and they automatically update it on my site daily.

That in itself is worth something but I don't see it being worth 30% of my sales. I would much rather that they update the content once a week and upgrade my percentage.

Regards
NastyJack

If you are getting a plug-in for free, I wouldn't complain.

G Sharp · 03-09-2003, 06:54 PM

If it converts really well [less than 1:100] and is stable [never goes over the 1:100 ratio] and pays on time.

NastyJack · 03-09-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeviantZ
A good program operator will realize that if you a productive partner @ 20% then by god you'll sell your ass off for 40%+. IMHO
Steve

Well I don't know if they will see me as a valued promoter but I could always ask.

They have 1000's of affiliates so I'm sure they would not want something like this going out - just imagine if everyone called in and asked for an increase in they're percentage.

Right now I'm earning about $150.00 US per month at 20% - more then most people do with they're site but then again I have been pushing them with every tool at my disposal.

20% is not allot of money when I count up the time and effort that goes into those sales.

Needless to say that your right when you say that I would work harder if I had a better percentage. Most of the extra percentage would go toward promoting them so it would be in they're best interest.

Well I'm gonna watch a movie and then I'll write them.
I'll also be sure to let you guys know what they said.
Wish me luck!

Regards
NastyJack

stocktrader23 · 03-09-2003, 07:11 PM

Good Luck to you The New NastyJack.

03-09-2003, 03:16 PM	#1
NastyJack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,291	Would You Sign Up With A Sponsor That Only Pays 20% 20% When I had first signed up with them I thought that I would be getting 50% and since they have fantastic promotional content I was extremely pleased - but now that I realize that there only paying me 20% I'm not feeling that pleased about promoting them. I get good bookmarks since there content is automatically updated daily on my site and I always get paid on time and all but 20% sounds like a joke when I think about it. Anyway, would you keep pushing a sponsor that only pays 20% or would you drop them? Regards NastyJack

03-09-2003, 03:20 PM	#2
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	I'd drop 'em unless it converts like crazy... __________________ Swiftwill Hosting

03-09-2003, 03:22 PM	#3
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	20% That's ridiculously LOW those are some greedy program owners lol __________________ Spam link here

03-09-2003, 03:36 PM	#6
BritishTwinks Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 357	20% is certainly very low but it doesn't tell the whole story. What are rebills like? How highly do you value their free content? etc. etc. __________________ British Twinks - Earn 60% commissions promoting this original site Over 100,000 quality photos and videos • High conversions and retention Weekly payments via CCBill

03-09-2003, 03:37 PM	#7
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	20% isn't a lot. However, if you're making money, you're making money. Could you make more by replacing it? If not, it's sortof an academic point. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

03-09-2003, 03:33 PM	#4
FetishTemptress Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,239	No way would I promote...not worth my time or energy I pay out 50-60 % myself FT**

03-09-2003, 03:36 PM	#5
HungSolo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away... Posts: 582	depends on the sponsor. Most 'tangible goods' programs (like sex toys) will offer a commission close to that.

03-09-2003, 04:55 PM	#9
demented Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,388	lol

03-09-2003, 04:57 PM	#10
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Is it just me or is NastyJack making alot more sense lately? __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

03-09-2003, 05:02 PM	#13
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	there is no paysite that good that you can't find something to replace it with another one to promote that is very similar and will pay out minimally twice as much. what is the paysite you're promoting? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-09-2003, 05:05 PM	#14
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	I had a sponsor suddenly move me from 50% down to 25% and they said they did that for everyone and it's within their rights from the agreement I signed. fuck that. greedy motherfuckers

03-09-2003, 05:19 PM	#15
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	sounds like a newbie...right guys? __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

03-09-2003, 05:30 PM	#17
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	depends on how much money is coming in ! I would much rather have 20% of $500 than 50% of $40 Bottom line in this biz is send traffic If it pays you more money than the next guy then keep it if not dump it. If they give you content and bookmarkers then there is something worth value there ! Also you have to give each program an honest shot. I walways test sponsors with small traffic for a few weeks to see the results. Just in case a biller is down or some glitch here or there. So many different factors. Someone posted a thread about standard deviation on paysites as well. It basically said that if you get 1 sale in 500 it is just as probable that you could go 3000 and see no sales.. or go 500 and see 3 sales. Just random luck of the draw. And that would make one sponsor seem better than another in the short run ! Also dont put all your eggs in one basket or you will feel the pinch of your sponsor going out of biz. Remember DMR Eventually anotehr 3rd party biller will up and fail donthave all your sponsors using only one biller or you will get rocked as well. Processors are very important key to sales..

03-09-2003, 05:34 PM	#18
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	I pay both 20% for my live feeds and 50% for my paysites... the difference is on the feeds I have to pay the chicks 40-50% and the processing and overhead you figure it out there is not enough room to go any higher for me than 20% on live. But our averrage user spends $700 thats $140 comission but then again ya have to wait a year to get it out of them. And webmasters want it all and they want it up front Paysites I can pay 50% i could pay more cuzz there really is very little overhead in paysites. Content and updating and whatnot not a lot of work. Marketing is the biggest cost !

03-09-2003, 05:43 PM	#20
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	If your making them good money contact them and ask them to raise that 20%. If they dont want to lose you, they will raise it. They always raise mine when I ask . good luck, Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

03-09-2003, 05:58 PM	#21
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	yup, camgirl sites can't pay out the same % as a paysite. move sites might find they can't make money either paying 50% - depends on how many movies they have available. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-09-2003, 06:02 PM	#22
xxxinnovations Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,181	are you promoting a webcam site? __________________ Need CUSTOM T-Shirts or Custom ANYTHING? We'll Fucking do it! ICQ 37639971 or call 800-920-1233

03-09-2003, 06:40 PM	#26
xxxinnovations Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,181	i'd like to know who only pays 20% b/c i'd be the fuck out if it were just a normal site __________________ Need CUSTOM T-Shirts or Custom ANYTHING? We'll Fucking do it! ICQ 37639971 or call 800-920-1233

03-09-2003, 06:54 PM	#28
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	If it converts really well [less than 1:100] and is stable [never goes over the 1:100 ratio] and pays on time.

03-09-2003, 07:11 PM	#30
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Good Luck to you The New NastyJack. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."