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MuleScrote 03-10-2003 08:52 PM

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cluck 03-10-2003 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by MuleScrote
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Bastard.

Lane 03-10-2003 08:54 PM

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DavePlays 03-10-2003 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Groove


Saddam is a threat to the people of his own country, but he is presently in no position to invade another country. What other country is he threatening to invade? Who is he going to use these weapons against?

If you're arguing that the US should invade Iraq to liberate them from a despotic dictator, then I guess the US will also need to invade most of the other countries in the Middle East, including its so called allies like Saudi Arabia and Egypt.


You REALLY think Saddam needs all his weapons JUST to threaten his OWN people? - All his's gone through for 12 years JUST to keep his own people in line? You really believe that?

Bit of an Over-Kill won't it be? Pardon the Pun.

Invading Egypt compared to Iraq? -
Let's just pretend you didn't make such an asinine comparison.

Groove 03-10-2003 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by DavePlays
You REALLY think Saddam needs all his weapons JUST to threaten his OWN people? - All his's gone through for 12 years JUST to keep his own people in line? You really believe that?

Bit of an Over-Kill won't it be? Pardon the Pun.

Who is he threatening to attack?

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Invading Egypt compared to Iraq? -
Let's just pretend you didn't make such an asinine comparison. [/B]
And what are you thoughts about the Saudis?

Groove 03-10-2003 09:07 PM

Under international law it is illegal to invade a sovereign state unless they have attacked you or are about to attack you. If the US invades Iraq without the support of the UN it will be committing an illegal act.

DavePlays 03-10-2003 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Groove
Under international law it is illegal to invade a sovereign state unless they have attacked you or are about to attack you. If the US invades Iraq without the support of the UN it will be committing an illegal act.

oh well....



:1orglaugh

Anthony_A 03-10-2003 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Groove
Under international law it is illegal to invade a sovereign state unless they have attacked you or are about to attack you. If the US invades Iraq without the support of the UN it will be committing an illegal act.
You are fucking kidding me right?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...004766310.html

First Israel, who knows when us.

Groove 03-10-2003 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by Anthony_A

You are fucking kidding me right?


No, it was a simple statement of fact. It *is* illegal to unilaterally attack another nation unless it attacks you first or it's clear that attack is imminent. The only exception is if the action is approved by the UN.

Your point?

The US and the UK say that they intend to invade Iraq because Saddam will not destroy his weapons of mass destruction. I have not heard anyone claim that they're doing so to cut-off Saddam's funding to the families of Palestinian terrorists.

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First Israel, who knows when us.

Following your logic, it would be OK for any state which feels threatened by the US's weapons of mass destruction and bellicose attitude (and there are many!) to attack the US!

theking 03-10-2003 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Groove
Under international law it is illegal to invade a sovereign state unless they have attacked you or are about to attack you. If the US invades Iraq without the support of the UN it will be committing an illegal act.
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The Administration said from the beginning that it did not have to go to the UN to act. The Administration, will be merely imposing the terms of the cease fire that the UN imposed upon Iraq in 1991, so no it will not be acting illegally. In addition Iraq has been committing acts of war weekly since 1991 in that it has repeatedly fired upon coalition forces (the USA and the British). In addition Saddam has more than once called for the killing of Americans where ever they may be found so a case can be made that he his an imminent threat to the security of US assets abroad and even mainland. Legalities are usually open for interpretation.

theking 03-10-2003 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by cluck



If the USA was concerned about the wellfare of Iraqi citizens, they wouldn't have economic sanctions that prevent them from getting medicine. Fact is however many people die at the hands of Saddam over there, more are dying because we won't let them import medicine.

We allow a certain amount of Iraqi oil to be sold for food and medicine. In addition Iraqi has side stepped this program and sold additional oil. Saddam decided to spend the money on things other than medicine, such as continuing to build Palaces. It is Saddam allowing his people to die, no one else.

Groove 03-10-2003 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Legalities are usually open for interpretation.
Very true :thumbsup

Anthony_A 03-10-2003 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by Groove


Following your logic, it would be OK for any state which feels threatened by the US's weapons of mass destruction and bellicose attitude (and there are many!) to attack the US!

Okie dokie. Suicide bombers and Sept 11th...

Oh yeah, the US has paid families of Nuclear Physists for their sacraficing their lives for ALLAH and to rid the world of the infidels.

Blah blah blah.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by cluck



If the USA was concerned about the wellfare of Iraqi citizens, they wouldn't have economic sanctions that prevent them from getting medicine. Fact is however many people die at the hands of Saddam over there, more are dying because we won't let them import medicine.

Hmm...

http://www.forbes.com/2003/02/26/billionaireland.html

Says here that Saddam is worth at least 2 BILLION dollars. Hmm... I'm wondering how he accumulated that much money, all while his people are short of food and proper medicine. Surely, he's too humane to steal donated supplies and sell them for personal gain.

Pointless 03-10-2003 10:13 PM

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quiet 03-10-2003 10:17 PM

my god.

Groove 03-10-2003 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
my god.
Who?

quiet 03-10-2003 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Groove


Who?

my christian god who will no doubt strike you all down for all your sinning.

Groove 03-10-2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
my christian god who will no doubt strike you all down for all your sinning.
There's a big storm outside...

Looks like I might be first! :helpme

quiet 03-10-2003 10:24 PM

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There's a big storm outside...

Looks like I might be first! :helpme

there's a special place waiting for you, in my god's hell. hehehehehehe.

cluck 03-10-2003 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by theking


We allow a certain amount of Iraqi oil to be sold for food and medicine. In addition Iraqi has side stepped this program and sold additional oil. Saddam decided to spend the money on things other than medicine, such as continuing to build Palaces. It is Saddam allowing his people to die, no one else.

I wasn't talking about Saddam, I was talking about having sanctions on importing medicine. They should allow us to sell it to Iraqi hospitals.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


there's a special place waiting for you, in my god's hell. hehehehehehe.

Damn man! Getting a little frisky tonight, eh?

theking 03-10-2003 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by cluck


I wasn't talking about Saddam, I was talking about having sanctions on importing medicine. They should allow us to sell it to Iraqi hospitals.

We do not have sanctions against medicine. Saddam chooses not to buy medicine, and chooses to spend the money on other things.

Sly_RJ 03-10-2003 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by theking


We do not have sanctions against medicine. Saddam chooses not to buy medicine, and chooses to spend the money on other things.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!


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