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				Are Affiliate Banners More Effective Than Your Own Custom banner?
			 
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		 Hell no. No offense to any designers, but those who strictly stick to design and don't pay attention to what everyone else is doing, do not have a clue. Yeah, they make some pretty beautiful banners, but if you look around you'll notice that beautiful banners are not what's generating high CTR.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Even when working for a major company, my ugly photoshop banners with good sales text and effective call-to-action always murdered the CTR of the ones created by the design team. ![]() 
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		 I have a designer make banners for me.  I don't want the program name on the banners.  I also want unique looking banners.  A lot of affiliate banners are oversaturated and outdated (years old) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 no, create your own. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 custom ones always work the best 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 we make our own (banners only make up 12% of sales these days and falling) 100% of the time 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 For dating and cams I can imagine banners being shitty.  LOL  For paysites I have a FUCKLOAD of them on my two Affiliate Programs (see sig), WAY more than the average program (like hundreds of banners). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 as with anything, it depends how you are using them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Custom. I'm the worlds' 2nd worst designer and my banners usually have a way higher CTR than what's in most affiliate areas. Some companies get it right, though. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I've tried both a have had positive reactions to both. I look at what's available and if it's not to my liking (ie: they wouldn't make me buy) then I'll make my own. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Personally I think as an affiliate knowing your own traffic you should know what your visitors would like to see and click. So it really varies I'd say. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Most of the time you are better off creating your own banners if done right, however with that being said some offers do have some really enticing banners that get pretty solid CTR's...it really just depends on the banners and how enticing they are. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Creating your own within limitations. You know your site. You know your traffic ( Should ) You know what your surfers want to see and read. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			BUT. Dont use content for the banner that does NOT EXIST on the site. Thats a good way to get booted from a program and it does you no good when people realize the girl does not exist on that site. 
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		 People want their own design, and I think that's better if you know what your costumers want or what is your best sell 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 We have banners in our program but we also create a lot of custom banners specific for our affiliates. We have no problem working with our affiliates because what Roald said is true, that affiliate knows their traffic the best. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Keep telling yourself that. No wonder you're an affiliate manager... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 custom works best if you understand what your audience likes but otherwise affiliate banners, like what we have on our banner farm  will work very well as these are the ones we see get the most clicks 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Our affiliates are welcome to use any images or other tools, we provide them with, to create banners or other graphics that are within the  acceptable use parameters of our affiliate agreements. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Creative ads look pretty with my business name on them. Make all the banners you want I love free branding! If affiliates want to make money directive advertising is the best way. Today's consumer on the Internet is a lot more sophisticated than he was 10 years ago -- there is a multitude of choice. If you don't understand the reasoning behind the Intention Economy you need to get a new day job. If you don't recognize the new visual media and its obsoleting of the traditional display ad you are going to get left in the dust. Learn what CTA is all about and use that to trigger your own popups. Banners are just "pretty" decorations if you expect more from them you are drinking the Kool Aid. We only produce affiliate banners because affiliates think they need them, IMHO. But I do appreciate the initiative of the OP I just see the media as misdirected and offer some contemporary alternatives.  | 
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 ![]() OK, let me explain this to you at a level you should be able to understand: Banner = graphic image used to advertise a site. Now, does a banner have to only contain (pretty) images? Does it have to only contain images? Is it prohibited to include a CTA in a banner? Must it use the URL of the site you're ultimately selling? From what I understand, your program only offers revshare. Which means that big media buyer affiliates aren't exactly tripping over themselves to send you traffic. Otherwise you would probably be more familiar with how banners are being used to drive immediate conversions nowadays. 'Cause if you still think banners can only be used for branding then you're either way out of the loop, or you simply got shit for brains. 
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		 I see you still can't explain why banners can only be used for branding and not immediate conversions. But anyway, all board pissing and name calling aside, let me know if you need help and I'll give you a bunch of ideas and examples. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 You should be able to track your own banners used (all advertising for that matter) by the way you use your link codes as an affiliate or as a sponsor/seller. You can only know for sure the results of that particular test instance -- there are a lot of factors that might influence the results -- you have to consider them also.  | 
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		 Yes, try having your mother do it ... Sorry, your sarcasm escaped me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Maybe, I have heard too much whining around here about failed advertising, Google fucked my White Label again and sponsors shaving the sales that affiliates never had in the first place.  | 
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 #2 be teachable. Always. what most affiliate managers/program owners/affiliates seem to think they need in a banner, is far from what can get outstanding ctr & ultimately sales.  | 
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	Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story! 
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		 For CAMS, I can see Barry's point. CAM banners never get it for me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	For incredibly hot Japanese girls? Banners kill it because the model on the banner pulls the sale! ![]()  | 
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		 Do they not convert, or do they simply not pull any clicks? Both issues can be addressed, regardless of what you push. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 No, I am not banned 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 I see most of our affiliates use something else than banners, may it be chat posts, submitted videos with overlay domain name and even text links. However except banners, some screenshots of fake screencap blogs works well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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