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goBigtime 03-07-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


He should if he wants to keep any control over his branding. I like the kids idea but if I repackage "MS Windows" and redistribute it as"MrPopup Presents Windows" i would go to jail

And get assraped no doubt.

Gutterboy 03-07-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
funny how people get mad about photo content when it is stolen but it is okay to steal content from a webmaster forum right?
I would say "quit while you're ahead", but since everyone now realizes you have no clue what the fuck you're babbling on about, I guess you have nothing to lose.

Carry on.

Chong 03-07-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
This site is content. If you're willing to steal content from this site, would you also be willing to steal other types of content?

am i "stealing content" by quoting you?

HungSolo 03-07-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
funny how people get mad about photo content when it is stolen but it is okay to steal content from a webmaster forum right?
In order to get said content, one needs to actually click a link and go to... brace yourself for this one... GFY. He is merely telling people that there is something on GFY that they may find interesting, and thus bringing traffic to GFY.

Ludedude 03-07-2003 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Why dont you ask Lensman.

Oh wait, he didnt authorize the usage of his content in this way. but its got his brand all over it.

I admit I'm playing devils advocate just a bit but it really is careless to assume nobody gets hurt or no revenue is lost when someone makes this sort of application.

This site is content. If you're willing to steal content from this site, would you also be willing to steal other types of content?

On the otherhand, Lensman should probabally hire the guy for doing so much hard, albeit copyright insensitive, work.

:2 cents:

Dude, you're on crack. No content is being stolen, the content is being linked to. Go bark up Yahoo News' tree if you have a crusade. I don't remember lensman announcing he hired your sorry ass as his in-house counsel.

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:32 PM

Thats funny you say that.

What other content have you stolen?

Do you think you could come up with a cute little application that steals pictures from pages too?

candyflip 03-07-2003 04:32 PM

I don't see who anyone could equate this with stealing content. It's simply a desktop app that displays links to the topics on the board. You can't read the posts without going to the board, and if you hit the board you see all the wonderful ads.

What content is being stolen?

Ludedude 03-07-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
Thats funny you say that.

What other content have you stolen?

Do you think you could come up with a cute little application that steals pictures from pages too?

Are you accusing me of theft?

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude


Dude, you're on crack. No content is being stolen, the content is being linked to. Go bark up tahoo News' tree if you have a crusade. I don't remember lensman announcing he hired your sorry ass as his in-house counsel.

Ad Impressions are delivered every time a page is loaded through a web browser. He is taking page RELOADS from GFY and putting them into his little appy.

He is stealing traffic from this site and then using the site to distribute the software meant to take those ad impressions away.

I'm not anyone's counsel bub. Why dont you show me some of your sites so i can start using your content in an unauthorized way?

Morgan 03-07-2003 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Chong
am i "stealing content" by quoting you?
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ya, dude... chill out.

goBigtime 03-07-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup
Thats funny you say that.

What other content have you stolen?

Do you think you could come up with a cute little application that steals pictures from pages too?

Ok, that's it.. get back in the box...

http://www.mdpi.net/TOOLS/toolbox.jpg

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude


Are you accusing me of theft?

if you use that application, you are stealing content.

Mutt 03-07-2003 04:38 PM

what a little prick Mr Popup is. Nice job on the ticker. As long as he's not going to start selling ads on it, it's a good thing for GFY. Hell, he should make a little deal with Gorny on it so it could have sponsor ads/links on it.

galleryseek 03-07-2003 04:38 PM

if lensman actually gets mad about it, how about adding code in the program to scroll ad's across the bottom in text form?

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Chong
am i "stealing content" by quoting you?
If I had a high trafficked site. and someone built an application meant to steal my traffic...id be pissed and i think you would be too.

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Its right here....

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Read the DMCA...im not making this up children.

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
what a little prick Mr Popup is. Nice job on the ticker. As long as he's not going to start selling ads on it, it's a good thing for GFY. Hell, he should make a little deal with Gorny on it so it could have sponsor ads/links on it.
Yup...and once again Lensman loses control over his brand

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Read the DMCA

It is theft. Blame your Government.

Chong 03-07-2003 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


If I had a high trafficked site. and someone built an application meant to steal my traffic...id be pissed and i think you would be too.

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Its right here....

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Read the DMCA...im not making this up children.

suck. me. off.

this is dmca act is U.S. Law only, yes?

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Chong
suck. me. off.

this is dmca act is U.S. Law only, yes?

Last time I checked Detroit was in the USA. Unless the Gibraltar Trade Center was suddenly moved to Windsor or something....

Geez, excuse me for being familiar with the law in a country I do business with....

Show me your ite.....Come on...Let me take some of your content.

put your money where your mouth is.

Ludedude 03-07-2003 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Yup...and once again Lensman loses control over his brand

http://www.educause.edu/issues/dmca.html

Read the DMCA

It is theft. Blame your Government.

Don't you have some conspiracy over in Lower Slobovia to dig up?

goBigtime 03-07-2003 04:43 PM

You know whats funny.. this whole thread just gave me an idea for a project (that whoever wants it can take it) that would be a little borderline scandalous... though I think if the forum admins were smart they would embrace it, since, ultimately it would mean more impressions.


But someone should make a ticker program like this and have it stream headlines for ALL of the active forums, ie GFY, Oprano, PornIsBad.. I'm sure there are more that are pretty active.

Then of course, you could run your little button banner at the top (AOL AIM client style) & generate a little money off selling the ads or something.


:1orglaugh... so who wants to bet on how many of these forum streamers will pop up now?

Gutterboy 03-07-2003 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Chong
suck. me. off.

this is dmca act is U.S. Law only, yes?

He's not even got the DMCA right. Several sites, Free Republic being the most notorious, have won or settled lawsuits allowing them to reproduce content under 'fair use' provisions.

In the case of FR, all of their content comes from articles reproduced.. without the ads.. from the big 3 news sites.

Chong 03-07-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Last time I checked Detroit was in the USA. Unless the Gibraltar Trade Center was suddenly moved to Windsor or something....

Geez, excuse me for being familiar with the law in a country I do business with....

Show me your ite.....Come on...Let me take some of your content.

put your money where your mouth is.

this isn't about detoit...i'm just asking you that if i were in say Afghanistan...and i quoted you, would i be stealing content then?

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy


He's not even got the DMCA right. Several sites, Free Republic being the most notorious, have won or settled lawsuits allowing them to reproduce content under 'fair use' provisions.

In the case of FR, all of their content comes from articles reproduced.. without the ads.. from the big 3 news sites.


Whatever........ im sure the kid who designed the app and lensman have lots of time to settle it in court.

****************
... fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

goBigtime 03-07-2003 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup



Whatever........ im sure the kid who designed the app and lensman have lots of time to settle it in court.


:1orglaugh They're going to court now eh?

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:48 PM

Whatever........ im sure the kid who designed the app and lensman have lots of time to settle it in court.

When you start talking about webmasters using this app to save time (meaning save money) it becomes clear that this application is commercial in nature regardless if it is sold or not.

****************
... fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

dlex 03-07-2003 04:48 PM

mine just keeps scrolling share the love and directs me to the paypal page for donation..I've tried refreshing but still same message :helpme

Gary 03-07-2003 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by dlex
mine just keeps scrolling share the love and directs me to the paypal page for donation..I've tried refreshing but still same message :helpme
Ya, me too. I believe that violates paypal's copyrights. But i'll defer to mrpopup on that one.

Theo 03-07-2003 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by dlex
mine just keeps scrolling share the love and directs me to the paypal page for donation..I've tried refreshing but still same message :helpme
yeah

same here

MrPopup 03-07-2003 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gary


Ya, me too. I believe that violates paypal's copyrights. But i'll defer to mrpopup on that one.

Doesn't the beav have any in house guys you could hit up?

dlex 03-07-2003 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gary


Ya, me too. I believe that violates paypal's copyrights. But i'll defer to mrpopup on that one.


hah :1orglaugh

demented 03-07-2003 04:57 PM

Why do people ALWAYS have to find something to bitch about. :321GFY

It's like a roomfull of old ladies sometimes.

Ludedude 03-07-2003 04:57 PM

I'm starting to smell DVD here.

3Xguru 03-07-2003 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Ad Impressions are delivered every time a page is loaded through a web browser. He is taking page RELOADS from GFY and putting them into his little appy.


You're right here...

Theo 03-07-2003 05:01 PM

yeap and this the cool part of it,only if it worked :/

we need a new version

Mike69 03-07-2003 05:01 PM

My Turn.....


gornyhuy

Email at michael at adult.com we need to talk.....

fnet 03-07-2003 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


Nope...

Dont you love Free Speech?

Click ignore.

Guess what?

You're now on my list with MonkeyMan and LucLonely. My standards are very, very low. Think limbo.

Wake up call; this is coming from a software engineer: You don't seem to have any comprehension of software, web services, syndication, desktop clients, or the DMCA.

MrPopup 03-07-2003 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fnet


Guess what?

You're now on my list with MonkeyMan and LucLonely. My standards are very, very low. Think limbo.

Wake up call; this is coming from a software engineer: You don't seem to have any comprehension of software, web services, syndication, desktop clients, or the DMCA.

Its called respect for Intellectual Property. Sorry you can't comprehend THAT but it happens to be the foundation of this business.

I'll listen to a lawyer before I'll listen to a guy with a CS degree. Aren't they giving those away now?

Theo 03-07-2003 05:15 PM

gornyhuy if you need legal advises, i can bring you in contact with LucLonely

stocktrader23 03-07-2003 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Ad Impressions are delivered every time a page is loaded through a web browser. He is taking page RELOADS from GFY and putting them into his little appy.

He is stealing traffic from this site and then using the site to distribute the software meant to take those ad impressions away.

I'm not anyone's counsel bub. Why dont you show me some of your sites so i can start using your content in an unauthorized way?

<sigh>

Just a guess but I bet the people that use this actually see MORE ads. I know I only check the first page on GFY. If I see topics scrolling I am interested in I am more likely to end up here. :2 cents:

gothweb 03-07-2003 05:29 PM

It isn't illegal to build such software. It's illegal not to take it down if Adult.com decide they don't like it. Since I don't see Lensman complaining, I think you can probably calm down.


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