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Old 03-26-2014, 01:04 AM   #1
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is it really true that you cannot shave with NATS ?

is it ?.....
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:08 AM   #2
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it have been proven that you can shave with nats. not sure if directly in nats, but it is possible for programs on nats to shave ... simple answer
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:11 AM   #3
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it have been proven that you can shave with nats. not sure if directly in nats, but it is possible for programs on nats to shave ... simple answer
but it doesnt mean that they will loose their license or something like that ? is it a lot of hassle for program to try to shave with nats ?
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:20 AM   #4
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No software company can guarantee that a sponsor won't work around their software to get the results they wish to achieve.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:43 AM   #5
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:26 AM   #6
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Shaving programs are shortterm idiots without business sense. They should die off and in fact eventually will die off. Who wants to promote a 1:20000 program?

Ohw... wait... affiliates still promote 1:20000 programs... and then they only complain about ratios...
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:32 AM   #7
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:34 AM   #8
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:24 AM   #9
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Dont nats techs have constant access to the programs server?
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:31 AM   #10
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There was a company outed for shaving with NATs some time ago - NATs said at the time that they had never suggested it was shave proof and that it was a line the programmes had used...

Remember who was behind NATs in the first place.....
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:50 PM   #11
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:48 PM   #12
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:56 PM   #13
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It's true, I tried shaving with nats and just got insect juice on my face, stick with remington.
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There was a company outed for shaving with NATs some time ago - NATs said at the time that they had never suggested it was shave proof and that it was a line the programmes had used...

Remember who was behind NATs in the first place.....
Nats was def pitched as shave proof in 2004-2006. It wasnt until more aggressive companies started banging cards & other tactics that they realized it wasn't all that accurate of a sales pitch. You have to remember that this pitch came after the MPA2 news broke that it had a shave feature (mpa2) & nats built up a solid rep by being honest with affiliates etc. which they are. There is no shave feature built in. Only my idea, the "polish shave" or "add a sale" which I suggested back in 2004. I know that some companies were altering the post back URL or something to do with that but those companies are long gone and and been called out here before.
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:42 PM   #15
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its a piece of code , you can do whatever you want.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:38 AM   #16
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:46 AM   #17
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There was a company outed for shaving with NATs some time ago - NATs said at the time that they had never suggested it was shave proof and that it was a line the programmes had used...

Remember who was behind NATs in the first place.....
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:47 AM   #18
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Nats was def pitched as shave proof in 2004-2006. It wasnt until more aggressive companies started banging cards & other tactics that they realized it wasn't all that accurate of a sales pitch. You have to remember that this pitch came after the MPA2 news broke that it had a shave feature (mpa2) & nats built up a solid rep by being honest with affiliates etc. which they are. There is no shave feature built in. Only my idea, the "polish shave" or "add a sale" which I suggested back in 2004. I know that some companies were altering the post back URL or something to do with that but those companies are long gone and and been called out here before.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:59 AM   #19
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is it ?.....
Yeah, it's pretty much impossible.
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:20 AM   #20
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I don't think there is any built in feature for shaving, but it would be very possible to do. I'm not going to say specifically how as this doesn't need to be public knowledge, but it wouldn't be very difficult. The same goes for any affiliate program software really, not just NATS, as in the worst case data can be manipulated in the db directly...

If you are worried about shaving, then go with programs that use the biller's affiliate programs directly as then no one has access to the database itself.
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Closing the progam down and keeping the revenue. That's shaving on a whole nother level.

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Closing the progam down and keeping the revenue. That's shaving on a whole nother level.

Yikes!!
That's blatant theft, not shaving.
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Old 03-30-2014, 03:55 PM   #23
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