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Old 03-18-2014, 09:45 AM   #1
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Let's Find This Airplane

You can search all the satellite images of the ocean where they think the airplane could have crashed in. Here the web site where you signup http://www.tomnod.com

Here it looks like I found a raft http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/534856

Post what you find bellow
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:52 AM   #2
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crowd sourcing stuff is great, good luck
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I'll find it but first i'm cooking dinner brb...
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Courtney Love already thinks she found it



"I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


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Courtney Love already thinks she found it



"I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


some funny comments!
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As I've been saying for days... check the Maldives!
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20016911&postcount=38

They now have reports that locals on the ground saw the low-flying 777 at 6:15 am.
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062

Other than the above article, I have not heard a SINGLE source talking about the Maldives. Is it any wonder that NOBODY is talking about this possibility, even though it is such an obvious possibility?

As quoted from the above article...

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Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.

But the Maldives is not amongst the countries that Malaysian authorities had sought help from in its search for the missing jet.
Whoever "they" is... "They" KNOW what happened to that plane, and "they" don't want it to be found.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:47 AM   #9
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This seems like the easiest explanation, and according to Occam's razor, therefore the most likely....

http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...ne-fire-2014-3




"Over the past 10 days, investigators and observers have come up with ever more elaborate theories for what might have happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

What was originally assumed to have been a tragic midair explosion or mechanical problem soon bloomed into a criminal investigation of a meticulously planned hijacking, commandeering, or otherwise stealing of a fully loaded commercial 777 in midair.

The perpetrator(s) knew the plane so well, one of the latest theories goes, that they climbed through a trap door outside the cockpit to reach circuit breakers necessary to shut down one of the communications systems. They shut down the transponder. They made the plane disappear and fooled the world into thinking it had crashed. They flew one of two "arcs" for seven hours — a "southern route" over the Indian Ocean on which, eventually, they crashed the plane in the ocean in a complicated suicide, and a "northern route" in which, perhaps, they slipped past land-based radar, flew to a destination in central Asia, and landed, perhaps preparing to use the plane again soon for a terrorist attack or other mission. This latter plan was executed so flawlessly, one observer theorized, that Flight 370 slipped in behind another commercial airliner for much of the route so as not to be noticed on radar.

The pilots' houses have been searched. Terrorist connections have been investigated. Passenger backgrounds and possible motives have been scrutinized. And still, 10 days after the plane disappeared, we know nothing.

Perhaps that's because we're overthinking it.

A few days ago, a former pilot named Chris Goodfellow articulated an entirely different theory on Google+.

This theory fits the facts.

And it's one of the most plausible yet:

Shortly after takeoff, as Malaysia 370 was flying out over the ocean, just after the co-pilot gave his final "Good night" sign-off to Malaysia air traffic control, smoke began filling the cockpit, perhaps from a tire on the front landing gear that had ignited on takeoff.

The captain immediately did exactly what he had been trained to do: turn the plane toward the closest airport so he could land.

The closest appropriate airport was called Pulau Langkawi. It had a massive 13,000-foot runway. The captain programmed the destination into the flight computer. The autopilot turned the plane west and put it on a course right for the runway (the same heading the plane turned to).

The captain and co-pilot tried to find the source of the smoke and fire. They switched off electrical "busses" to try to isolate it, in the process turning off systems like the transponder and ACARs automated update system (but not, presumably, the autopilot, which was flying the plane). They did not issue a distress call, because in a midair emergency your priorities are "aviate, navigate, communicate" — in that order. But smoke soon filled the cockpit and overwhelmed them (a tire fire could do this). The pilots passed out or died.

Smoke filled the cabin and overwhelmed and distracted the passengers and cabin crew ... or the cockpit door was locked and/or the cockpit was filled with smoke, so no one could enter the cockpit to try to figure out where the plane was, how the pilots were, or how the plane might be successfully landed. (This would be a complicated task, even if one knew the pilots were unconscious and had access to the cockpit, especially if most of the plane's electrical systems were switched off or damaged).

With no one awake to instruct the autopilot to land, the plane kept flying on its last programmed course ... right over Pulau Langkawi and out over the Indian Ocean. The engine-update system kept "pinging" the satellite. Eventually, six or seven hours after the incident, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed.

This theory fits the facts. It makes sense. It explains the manual course change as well as the "pings" that a satellite kept hearing from the plane. It requires no fantastically brilliant pre-planning or execution or motives...."

Article continues..... Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...#ixzz2wL1lYyOi




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Old 03-18-2014, 10:55 AM   #10
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A sad thing about all of this is now the crazies are starting to come out of the woodwork. MUFON, those UFO conspiracy clowns, are now saying UFO's should be considered as possible reason for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's disappearance. Sad, sad sad.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:08 AM   #11
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Should really get 4Chan on this. They can find anything.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:14 AM   #12
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Well now this odd:

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/652299

Edit: or not. Looks like it's on approach to airport to the northeast. But the size relative to buildings nearby seems off. Must be a pretty small plane.

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Old 03-18-2014, 11:15 AM   #13
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:41 AM   #14
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Here's a zoom in picture of the raft I found http://imgur.com/ukTtLAj
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http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/654342

that would be a crashed plane I think, no idea if its the one they are looking for, but its a plane
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That one looks like it's in midflight and it's over land. Possibly another airline but I would still tag it

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that would be a crashed plane I think, no idea if its the one they are looking for, but its a plane
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e but I would still tag it
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How the fuck you use this shit site. How do you zoom or even know where on the map you are in relation to the world?
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This seems like the easiest explanation, and according to Occam's razor, therefore the most likely....

http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...ne-fire-2014-3
Yup, just read that and came here to post it. Damn. Imagine knowing shit is up and being stuck on that plane for maybe 6 hours and not be able to do anything about it
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This theory fits the facts.

And it's one of the most plausible yet:

Shortly after takeoff, as Malaysia 370 was flying out over the ocean, just after the co-pilot gave his final "Good night" sign-off to Malaysia air traffic control, smoke began filling the cockpit, perhaps from a tire on the front landing gear that had ignited on takeoff.

The captain immediately did exactly what he had been trained to do: turn the plane toward the closest airport so he could land.

The closest appropriate airport was called Pulau Langkawi. It had a massive 13,000-foot runway. The captain programmed the destination into the flight computer. The autopilot turned the plane west and put it on a course right for the runway (the same heading the plane turned to).

The captain and co-pilot tried to find the source of the smoke and fire. They switched off electrical "busses" to try to isolate it, in the process turning off systems like the transponder and ACARs automated update system (but not, presumably, the autopilot, which was flying the plane). They did not issue a distress call, because in a midair emergency your priorities are "aviate, navigate, communicate" ? in that order. But smoke soon filled the cockpit and overwhelmed them (a tire fire could do this). The pilots passed out or died.

Smoke filled the cabin and overwhelmed and distracted the passengers and cabin crew ... or the cockpit door was locked and/or the cockpit was filled with smoke, so no one could enter the cockpit to try to figure out where the plane was, how the pilots were, or how the plane might be successfully landed. (This would be a complicated task, even if one knew the pilots were unconscious and had access to the cockpit, especially if most of the plane's electrical systems were switched off or damaged).

With no one awake to instruct the autopilot to land, the plane kept flying on its last programmed course ... right over Pulau Langkawi and out over the Indian Ocean. The engine-update system kept "pinging" the satellite. Eventually, six or seven hours after the incident, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed.

This theory fits the facts. It makes sense. It explains the manual course change as well as the "pings" that a satellite kept hearing from the plane. It requires no fantastically brilliant pre-planning or execution or motives...."
That theory's as good as any.

But it doesn't explain the altitude changes. I've read the plane went up to over 40k feet, and then dropped back down.
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That theory's as good as any.

But it doesn't explain the altitude changes. I've read the plane went up to over 40k feet, and then dropped back down.
here's a better but not so sensationalist explanation

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

edit => my apologies - read later that Mike posted this..


and i think Courtney Love could be right

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/128148

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Courtney Love already thinks she found it



"I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


Plane wreck - found by a train wreck.
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Apparently a low flying jet was seen from the Maldives

http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062

Maldives is to the north of Diego Garcia, US military base. The captain had Diego Garcia runway on his flight simulator.

http://english.astroawani.com/news/s...imulator-32034
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Looks like one of you guys found the plane http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tay-radar.html
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Looks like one of you guys found the plane http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tay-radar.html
the tomnod link to that would be nice
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CNN's latest headline is right on the ball.

"Someone in cockpit rerouted plane, official says"


No shit, Sherlock!
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I bet a million dollars the NSA knows where the plane is but wont say cause that will expose them to more scrutiny on their surveillence methods.

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That theory's as good as any.

But it doesn't explain the altitude changes. I've read the plane went up to over 40k feet, and then dropped back down.
That was actually addressed in the same theory. According to the guy that put forward the idea, the plane MAY have been taken to the upper limits of its operational range by the pilot in a desperate attempt to put out flames by restricting oxygen available. Flying at that level is the very limit of the plane's operational range and could easily have stalled creating a quick dive down. It's also possible the plane was put in to a dive on purpose attempting to put out the fire.
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Missing Jet's U-Turn Programmed Before Signoff, Sources Say

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This seems like the easiest explanation, and according to Occam's razor, therefore the most likely....

http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...ne-fire-2014-3




"Over the past 10 days, investigators and observers have come up with ever more elaborate theories for what might have happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

What was originally assumed to have been a tragic midair explosion or mechanical problem soon bloomed into a criminal investigation of a meticulously planned hijacking, commandeering, or otherwise stealing of a fully loaded commercial 777 in midair.

The perpetrator(s) knew the plane so well, one of the latest theories goes, that they climbed through a trap door outside the cockpit to reach circuit breakers necessary to shut down one of the communications systems. They shut down the transponder. They made the plane disappear and fooled the world into thinking it had crashed. They flew one of two "arcs" for seven hours — a "southern route" over the Indian Ocean on which, eventually, they crashed the plane in the ocean in a complicated suicide, and a "northern route" in which, perhaps, they slipped past land-based radar, flew to a destination in central Asia, and landed, perhaps preparing to use the plane again soon for a terrorist attack or other mission. This latter plan was executed so flawlessly, one observer theorized, that Flight 370 slipped in behind another commercial airliner for much of the route so as not to be noticed on radar.

The pilots' houses have been searched. Terrorist connections have been investigated. Passenger backgrounds and possible motives have been scrutinized. And still, 10 days after the plane disappeared, we know nothing.

Perhaps that's because we're overthinking it.

A few days ago, a former pilot named Chris Goodfellow articulated an entirely different theory on Google+.

This theory fits the facts.

And it's one of the most plausible yet:

Shortly after takeoff, as Malaysia 370 was flying out over the ocean, just after the co-pilot gave his final "Good night" sign-off to Malaysia air traffic control, smoke began filling the cockpit, perhaps from a tire on the front landing gear that had ignited on takeoff.

The captain immediately did exactly what he had been trained to do: turn the plane toward the closest airport so he could land.

The closest appropriate airport was called Pulau Langkawi. It had a massive 13,000-foot runway. The captain programmed the destination into the flight computer. The autopilot turned the plane west and put it on a course right for the runway (the same heading the plane turned to).

The captain and co-pilot tried to find the source of the smoke and fire. They switched off electrical "busses" to try to isolate it, in the process turning off systems like the transponder and ACARs automated update system (but not, presumably, the autopilot, which was flying the plane). They did not issue a distress call, because in a midair emergency your priorities are "aviate, navigate, communicate" — in that order. But smoke soon filled the cockpit and overwhelmed them (a tire fire could do this). The pilots passed out or died.

Smoke filled the cabin and overwhelmed and distracted the passengers and cabin crew ... or the cockpit door was locked and/or the cockpit was filled with smoke, so no one could enter the cockpit to try to figure out where the plane was, how the pilots were, or how the plane might be successfully landed. (This would be a complicated task, even if one knew the pilots were unconscious and had access to the cockpit, especially if most of the plane's electrical systems were switched off or damaged).

With no one awake to instruct the autopilot to land, the plane kept flying on its last programmed course ... right over Pulau Langkawi and out over the Indian Ocean. The engine-update system kept "pinging" the satellite. Eventually, six or seven hours after the incident, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed.

This theory fits the facts. It makes sense. It explains the manual course change as well as the "pings" that a satellite kept hearing from the plane. It requires no fantastically brilliant pre-planning or execution or motives...."

Article continues..... Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...#ixzz2wL1lYyOi




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As a pilot I can tell you no way in hell would they turn off the transponder - you dont just go crazy flipping switches - especially not that switch.

And running down to start yanking breakers without a distress call - not likely.
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As a pilot I can tell you no way in hell would they turn off the transponder - you dont just go crazy flipping switches - especially not that switch.
thats what the pilot wrote:

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For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.
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Missing Jet's U-Turn Programmed Before Signoff, Sources Say

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...ces-say-n56151
"...sources tell NBC news."


What sources?

And just how do they know the U-turn was programmed before signoff?

Did they release a carrier pigeon with a memo?

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Old 03-18-2014, 08:15 PM   #38
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As a pilot I can tell you no way in hell would they turn off the transponder - you dont just go crazy flipping switches - especially not that switch.

And running down to start yanking breakers without a distress call - not likely.
I'm not a pilot and I really have no idea what happened. Truth be told I don't much care either.

The guy who put this theory forward has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes. When you say you're a pilot, do you have similar qualifications?
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:18 PM   #39
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This seems like the easiest explanation, and according to Occam's razor, therefore the most likely....

http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...ne-fire-2014-3




"Over the past 10 days, investigators and observers have come up with ever more elaborate theories for what might have happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

What was originally assumed to have been a tragic midair explosion or mechanical problem soon bloomed into a criminal investigation of a meticulously planned hijacking, commandeering, or otherwise stealing of a fully loaded commercial 777 in midair.

The perpetrator(s) knew the plane so well, one of the latest theories goes, that they climbed through a trap door outside the cockpit to reach circuit breakers necessary to shut down one of the communications systems. They shut down the transponder. They made the plane disappear and fooled the world into thinking it had crashed. They flew one of two "arcs" for seven hours ? a "southern route" over the Indian Ocean on which, eventually, they crashed the plane in the ocean in a complicated suicide, and a "northern route" in which, perhaps, they slipped past land-based radar, flew to a destination in central Asia, and landed, perhaps preparing to use the plane again soon for a terrorist attack or other mission. This latter plan was executed so flawlessly, one observer theorized, that Flight 370 slipped in behind another commercial airliner for much of the route so as not to be noticed on radar.

The pilots' houses have been searched. Terrorist connections have been investigated. Passenger backgrounds and possible motives have been scrutinized. And still, 10 days after the plane disappeared, we know nothing.

Perhaps that's because we're overthinking it.

A few days ago, a former pilot named Chris Goodfellow articulated an entirely different theory on Google+.

This theory fits the facts.

And it's one of the most plausible yet:

Shortly after takeoff, as Malaysia 370 was flying out over the ocean, just after the co-pilot gave his final "Good night" sign-off to Malaysia air traffic control, smoke began filling the cockpit, perhaps from a tire on the front landing gear that had ignited on takeoff.

The captain immediately did exactly what he had been trained to do: turn the plane toward the closest airport so he could land.

The closest appropriate airport was called Pulau Langkawi. It had a massive 13,000-foot runway. The captain programmed the destination into the flight computer. The autopilot turned the plane west and put it on a course right for the runway (the same heading the plane turned to).

The captain and co-pilot tried to find the source of the smoke and fire. They switched off electrical "busses" to try to isolate it, in the process turning off systems like the transponder and ACARs automated update system (but not, presumably, the autopilot, which was flying the plane). They did not issue a distress call, because in a midair emergency your priorities are "aviate, navigate, communicate" ? in that order. But smoke soon filled the cockpit and overwhelmed them (a tire fire could do this). The pilots passed out or died.

Smoke filled the cabin and overwhelmed and distracted the passengers and cabin crew ... or the cockpit door was locked and/or the cockpit was filled with smoke, so no one could enter the cockpit to try to figure out where the plane was, how the pilots were, or how the plane might be successfully landed. (This would be a complicated task, even if one knew the pilots were unconscious and had access to the cockpit, especially if most of the plane's electrical systems were switched off or damaged).

With no one awake to instruct the autopilot to land, the plane kept flying on its last programmed course ... right over Pulau Langkawi and out over the Indian Ocean. The engine-update system kept "pinging" the satellite. Eventually, six or seven hours after the incident, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed.

This theory fits the facts. It makes sense. It explains the manual course change as well as the "pings" that a satellite kept hearing from the plane. It requires no fantastically brilliant pre-planning or execution or motives...."

Article continues..... Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/malay...#ixzz2wL1lYyOi




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They are now saying that the turn around was already programmed into the computer 12 mins before the good night call. Making a burning tire or what ever idea fairly unlikely. Found it on reddit.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101505345
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The changes in altitude may rule out the autopilot keeping the plane up after they died from smoke.

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the tomnod link to that would be nice
It's here: http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/654342

But it's not a 777 and it's not in the trees. It's flying to an airport just to the NE.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:26 PM   #42
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You can search all the satellite images of the ocean where they think the airplane could have crashed in. Here the web site where you signup http://www.tomnod.com

Here it looks like I found a raft http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/534856

Post what you find bellow
no mention of a reward fuck off
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I'm not a pilot and I really have no idea what happened. Truth be told I don't much care either.

The guy who put this theory forward has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes. When you say you're a pilot, do you have similar qualifications?
I've been a pilot for 26 years and yes I am instrument rated but the pilot that wrote this opinion is probably far more experienced than me and rated for more complex aircraft - doesn't matter - I think he is starting with a hypothesis and trying to piece facts into it.

There are a lot of facts that I am looking at that make his theory look like swiss cheese, especially if we are talking Occam's razor - we have a pilot who seems to be a very political character - seeing his political party opposition leader sentenced to 5 years for a trumped up sodomy charge...and the pilot was IN COURT when the verdict is handed down???

So whats more likely the easiest explanation...Captain waits for the co-pilot to go to the bathroom...locks the cockpit door...steals off with aircraft to parts unknown? Or some cockpit fire and no radio call hokus pokus theory...I guess time will tell.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a father-of-three, was said to be a 'fanatical' supporter of the country's opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim - jailed for homosexuality just hours before the jet disappeared.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2wNfZF5ao
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