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nexcom28 · 03-06-2014, 11:51 AM

Ok, for far too long I have been relying / waiting for fuckingoogle to start sending me traffic again.
It seems that this isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

So, my question to you fellow adult webmasters is how do I build traffic without the need for search engines?
I am doing the social thing but it doesn't seem to be working because the number of hits I get this way is very small.

Cheers.

signupdamnit · 03-06-2014, 11:54 AM

What are you trying to send hits to exactly? That is probably 90% of the problem right there. It needs to add value. Do that and your Google problems will probably largely go away too.

Youtube can be a good source if done right. As can sites like Tumblr or instagram. Or even the tubes. But you need something there to get people to want to come to your site.

nexcom28 · 03-06-2014, 12:11 PM

I have a couple of review sites. 1000 words per review all unique and hand written.
About 100 posts per site.

FuckinGoogle took 85% of my traffic since October. I don't see it coming back.

signupdamnit · 03-06-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

I have a couple of review sites. 1000 words per review all unique and hand written.
About 100 posts per site.

FuckinGoogle took 85% of my traffic since October. I don't see it coming back.

That's a tough one. Especially if you are reviewing paysites. Unfortunately fewer are buying and fewer yet are looking for review sites to "find a good paysite to get a membership at". It's kind of like having an eight track store. Well it ain't THAT bad but we're getting there. I'd go with a different product. <two cents>

PR_Glen · 03-06-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

That's a tough one. Especially if you are reviewing paysites. Unfortunately fewer are buying and fewer yet are looking for review sites to "find a good paysite to get a membership at". It's kind of like having an eight track store. Well it ain't THAT bad but we're getting there. I'd go with a different product. <two cents>

unsubstantiated bullshit, stick to what you know instead...

Some of our best webmasters are review site owners. Keep building up your network anyway you can, social media, blog posts, tumblr and the search engine traffic will grow. You aren't the only one on the block so you will have to give people something unique a reason to go back to your own review sites.

Magnetron · 03-06-2014, 12:42 PM

Are you being penalized by Googles?

signupdamnit · 03-06-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

unsubstantiated bullshit, stick to what you know instead...

Unless the google phrase has 'review' in it he's probably not going to rank because people want it free and aren't looking for reviews.

Paysites are hard to sell now. That's a fact, Jack. There is someone who will remain anonymous here and he states he has about 30 paysites and he works a lot with the tubes and tries to get affiliates. Well with all his work he says he does about one sale a day per paysite. If the damn paysite who is pushing their videos in front of millions of people on tubes can only manage one sale a day then what does that say for an affiliate's chances of making meaningful income? Do you think you are going to rank #1 on Google and somehow make ten sales a day to the same paysite?

It's only worth chasing if you already have the traffic. He doesn't.

PR_Glen · 03-06-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Unless the google phrase has 'review' in it he's probably not going to rank because people want it free and aren't looking for reviews.

Paysites are hard to sell now. That's a fact, Jack. There is someone who will remain anonymous here and he states he has about 30 paysites and he works a lot with the tubes and tries to get affiliates. Well with all his work he says he does about one sale a day per paysite. If the damn paysite who is pushing their videos in front of millions of people on tubes can only manage one sale a day then what does that say for an affiliate's chances of making meaningful income? Do you think you are going to rank #1 on Google and somehow make ten sales a day to the same paysite? "He's dead, Jim"

It's only worth chasing if you already have the traffic. He doesn't.

You have an anonymous source? I have access to our stats of 230 of our ACTIVE paysites and 14 years of experience in online marketing and sales. What was it you were going to tell everyone else here that I can't do better again?

signupdamnit · 03-06-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You have an anonymous source? I have access to our stats of 230 of our ACTIVE paysites and 14 years of experience in online marketing and sales. What was it you were going to tell everyone else here that I can't do better again?

I'm not going to name the source because I don't want to be a dick. You're here to do your job and you have an agenda. I'm just here to help someone out and there is nothing in it for me.

The bottom line is he needs good traffic to get conversions with a review site. You don't just build the review site and cash the checks. He lost most of his traffic from Google and he is asking for other ways. It's kind of hard to do that without Google when all you have is a review site. People want it for free. What your stats say for "Rabbit's Reviews" doesn't really mean shit for him. <shrug>

deltav · 03-06-2014, 01:23 PM

Review sites can still do fine. It all depends on WHAT SITES you're pushing via those reviews. I'd recommend focusing on reviewing niche stuff (which aficionados will pay for) rather than vanilla smut (which they won't).

It should be noted that for the OP it's more a traffic issue, he wants to replace the surfers lost by the big G.

Colmike9 · 03-06-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav

Review sites can still do fine. It all depends on WHAT SITES you're pushing via those reviews. I'd recommend focusing on reviewing niche stuff (which aficionados will pay for) rather than vanilla smut (which they won't).

Someone I know recently sold his review network for 110k and I'm building a bunch myself. There's a ton of money in it..

btw, try Google's Webmaster tools and Analytics or whatever tracking you use and find out why the drop happened, then fix it.

nexcom28 · 03-06-2014, 01:28 PM

I do fine as far as conversions go. This thread isn't for the discussion of review sites it's for ways of getting traffic without the search engines.
Of course if they send me traffic again in the future great but I don't want to rely on that.

Sly · 03-06-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

I do fine as far as conversions go. This thread isn't for the discussion of review sites it's for ways of getting traffic without the search engines.
Of course if they send me traffic again in the future great but I don't want to rely on that.

Feeder sites, link trades, and purchased spots/traffic.

Colmike9 · 03-06-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

I do fine as far as conversions go. This thread isn't for the discussion of review sites it's for ways of getting traffic without the search engines.
Of course if they send me traffic again in the future great but I don't want to rely on that.

watermarks/branding/SMO/directories/other SEs besides Google/post articles/anything non-Google related

NoWhErE · 03-06-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Unless the google phrase has 'review' in it he's probably not going to rank because people want it free and aren't looking for reviews.

Paysites are hard to sell now. That's a fact, Jack. There is someone who will remain anonymous here and he states he has about 30 paysites and he works a lot with the tubes and tries to get affiliates. Well with all his work he says he does about one sale a day per paysite. If the damn paysite who is pushing their videos in front of millions of people on tubes can only manage one sale a day then what does that say for an affiliate's chances of making meaningful income? Do you think you are going to rank #1 on Google and somehow make ten sales a day to the same paysite?

It's only worth chasing if you already have the traffic. He doesn't.

If a guy has 30 paysites and works hard with tubes + affiliates and yet still manages to only get 1 sale a day per paysite, I would say maybe there is something wrong with his product and not the market itself.

Also, ranking in the top 5 spots for paysite name is still very doable and not that hard if you know what you're doing.

NoWhErE · 03-06-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nexcom28

Ok, for far too long I have been relying / waiting for fuckingoogle to start sending me traffic again.
It seems that this isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

So, my question to you fellow adult webmasters is how do I build traffic without the need for search engines?
I am doing the social thing but it doesn't seem to be working because the number of hits I get this way is very small.

Cheers.

Let's see. If I were to start a review site from scratch, here's how I would probably go about generating traffic: I would build my own community

1 - Go to facebook, pick a field of interest (lets say sexy chicks with big tits) and create facebook pages, buy some FB ads from other similar groups and post like mad. Get that puppy to 40k + likes

2 - Do roughly the same thing on Twitter, Instragram, etc etc.

3 - Then create a network of free sites with pics and movies featuring sexy girls with big tits. Couple of different domains, different layouts. Basically make them look like they are owned by different people.

4 - Use the communites you built on social platforms to drive traffic to your free sites.

5 - Have each free site spotlight your review site's latest review of the new paysite that has sexy teen girls. Make it a super good review, with video how-to guides on how to signup, what to expect inside the member's area, etc.

6 - Offer on your free sites whatever free content if they tweet/like/share your review.

Seo traffic "should" come in slowly as you're creating your own hype over a product.

That's one way of doing it. There are many many others. Its all about testing and seeing what works best for you. Some of your efforts will fail, others will succeed.

If you strictly want to go the seo route, then that's a totally different strat which I won't share

nexcom28 · 03-06-2014, 02:03 PM

Thanks NoWhErE. Sounds like a shit load of work ahead then huh.

InfoGuy · 03-06-2014, 02:28 PM

Stand on a busy street corner with a chicken suit and a big sign with your website on it.

oppoten · 03-06-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

What are you trying to send hits to exactly? That is probably 90% of the problem right there. It needs to add value. Do that and your Google problems will probably largely go away too.

I don't agree with the last sentence. Freeones adds a ton of value yet its been penalized.

Webmasters have become obsessed with "adding value" ever since Google started using that phrase. I think it's misdirection, and that Google actually pushes surfers towards tubes because they're compatible with Google's own web branding

DVTimes · 03-06-2014, 06:00 PM

Try this [LINK]

tiramisu · 03-07-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

I don't agree with the last sentence. Freeones adds a ton of value yet its been penalized.

Webmasters have become obsessed with "adding value" ever since Google started using that phrase. I think it's misdirection, and that Google actually pushes surfers towards tubes because they're compatible with Google's own web branding

why do everyone thinks site drops in traffic will likely to be penalized by google? Freeones still rank and still hold around 800,000 a day, before it was about 1 million a day. Reason why traffic drop is they outranked by better sites. Freeones still rank and bring in tons of se traffics though.

HerPimp · 03-07-2014, 02:51 AM

Ask a big tgp site if you help review submits can you get a top listing or banner spot.

nexcom28 · 03-07-2014, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

Try this [LINK]

No thanks

The Porn Nerd · 03-07-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

If a guy has 30 paysites and works hard with tubes + affiliates and yet still manages to only get 1 sale a day per paysite, I would say maybe there is something wrong with his product and not the market itself.

Also, ranking in the top 5 spots for paysite name is still very doable and not that hard if you know what you're doing.

Well I don't know if I'm "the source" for Signupdammit's paysite owner but I do run 32 paysites and work with the tubes.....BUT about 18 of the 32 are really 'Bonus' sites with little traffic (or video content to send to tubes) so really it's about 14 sites that do all the biz. Some do a signup a day, some do a signup a week, some do a signup a month - while others do 5-10 a day and a couple do more than that. So, for me, depending on how you look at it, it 'averages' out.

Paysites still make money but you have to be better at selling them than what worked 5 years ago.

NoWhErE · 03-07-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Well I don't know if I'm "the source" for Signupdammit's paysite owner but I do run 32 paysites and work with the tubes.....BUT about 18 of the 32 are really 'Bonus' sites with little traffic (or video content to send to tubes) so really it's about 14 sites that do all the biz. Some do a signup a day, some do a signup a week, some do a signup a month - while others do 5-10 a day and a couple do more than that. So, for me, depending on how you look at it, it 'averages' out.

Paysites still make money but you have to be better at selling them than what worked 5 years ago.

Fair enough.

Put that way there's a big difference and my statement doesn't make much sense then.

I figured if 1 persone was putting the same amount of effort into 30 sites and only generating 1 sale each, he would need to go back to the drawing board.

What you just described makes complete sense.

icymelon · 03-07-2014, 05:22 PM

there are a lot of places to buy traffic if you can figure out how to convert it you don't have to rely on search engines.

deltav · 03-07-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

there are a lot of places to buy traffic if you can figure out how to convert it you don't have to rely on search engines.

The problem being that organic targeted Google traffic is immeasurably more productive than anything you can purchase.

Jel · 03-07-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

I don't agree with the last sentence. Freeones adds a ton of value yet its been penalized.

Webmasters have become obsessed with "adding value" ever since Google started using that phrase. I think it's misdirection, and that Google actually pushes surfers towards tubes because they're compatible with Google's own web branding

+1 except I'd add that the 'value' G speaks of is the end product.

American Psycho · 03-07-2014, 06:58 PM

The anon source is porn nerd network.

Im psychic. Yeap

American Psycho · 03-07-2014, 07:03 PM

Oh crap he outed himself later in the thread lol.
Told u im psychic!

karolinaboy · 03-19-2014, 01:44 PM

Fuck Google. There's plenty of other search engines.

2030 · 03-19-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

Are you being penalized by Googles?

mineistaken · 03-19-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tiramisu

why do everyone thinks site drops in traffic will likely to be penalized by google? Freeones still rank and still hold around 800,000 a day, before it was about 1 million a day. Reason why traffic drop is they outranked by better sites. Freeones still rank and bring in tons of se traffics though.

What are better sites? Tubes?

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03-06-2014, 11:51 AM	#1
nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	Experienced Webmasters - Help me. Ok, for far too long I have been relying / waiting for fuckingoogle to start sending me traffic again. It seems that this isn't likely to happen anytime soon. So, my question to you fellow adult webmasters is how do I build traffic without the need for search engines? I am doing the social thing but it doesn't seem to be working because the number of hits I get this way is very small. Cheers.

03-06-2014, 12:11 PM	#3
nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	I have a couple of review sites. 1000 words per review all unique and hand written. About 100 posts per site. FuckinGoogle took 85% of my traffic since October. I don't see it coming back.

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nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	I do fine as far as conversions go. This thread isn't for the discussion of review sites it's for ways of getting traffic without the search engines. Of course if they send me traffic again in the future great but I don't want to rely on that.

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nexcom28 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,716	Thanks NoWhErE. Sounds like a shit load of work ahead then huh.

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