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Old 03-05-2003, 02:33 PM   #1
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Paysite sales down today???

Am I alone on this one or is there anyone else who's having a bad paysite sales day today?
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why do people assume traffic is some global thing that if you are doing bad others must be too?

I dont understand it.

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because maybe those people will have the same processor and then we can see if something is up. =)
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why do people assume traffic is some global thing that if you are doing bad others must be too?

I dont understand it.


cuz there are patterns, fletch.

Such as nice weather in the summer.. pulling people away from their computers.

I know i'm feeling like shit after partying hard last night for mardi gras. That's where i'd put my money.
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cuz there are patterns, fletch.

Such as nice weather in the summer.. pulling people away from their computers.

I know i'm feeling like shit after partying hard last night for mardi gras. That's where i'd put my money.
'blah. blahblah.'

'the sky is falling.'

'my site isnt converting.'

lets blame it on a global El Nino of bad luck.

i dont believe these things.

There are no patterns, the day I think because its sunny outside Joe Blow aint rubbing one off to his monitor is the day I quit this job.

you guys bring it on yourself.

if you aint making sales, its YOUR fault.

no one elses.

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yeah, i'd blame mardi gras, who'd pay for tits when they just got a bunch for beads the night before.
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because maybe those people will have the same processor and then we can see if something is up. =)
that's all
What the fuck does a processor similarity have to do with if your tour sucks and you arent converting?

Id say it has something to do with your site or traffic more so than a global bad wave of traffic.

hahaha

too funny, the things webmasters point at sometimes.

blame is all on you if you arent making sales.

Dont blame it on the rain
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ya for me it's down today, had 20 more signups yesterday with same traffic... :/
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First off is it National "Be a asshole to a lady day" I dont have my calender. Also from your profile, your a designer so what the fuck are you talking about? lol
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What the fuck does a processor similarity have to do with if your tour sucks and you arent converting?

Id say it has something to do with your site or traffic more so than a global bad wave of traffic.

hahaha

too funny, the things webmasters point at sometimes.

blame is all on you if you arent making sales.

Dont blame it on the rain
Well let's see....if a processor isn't processing then sales will be down. I'm always trying to better my sites by making changes and my conversion rates have been consistantly going up since doing this. I do the best I can.
But thank you for your response.
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First off is it National "Be a asshole to a lady day" I dont have my calender. Also from your profile, your a designer so what the fuck are you talking about? lol
yep, just a designer.

did ya notice 'probably pissing you off' in my profile too.

caught ya looking.

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What the fuck does a processor similarity have to do with if your tour sucks and you arent converting?

Id say it has something to do with your site or traffic more so than a global bad wave of traffic.

hahaha

too funny, the things webmasters point at sometimes.

blame is all on you if you arent making sales.

Dont blame it on the rain
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No, i just think its funny when webmasters complain like sucker-wanting kids at the bank.

'Its sunny outside - my sales are sucking'

'Its mardi gras in new orleans my sales are sucking'

keep telling yourself these things.

And its even funnier to see how you all react to someone calling you on it.

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No, i just think its funny when webmasters complain like sucker-wanting kids at the bank.

'Its sunny outside - my sales are sucking'

'Its mardi gras in new orleans my sales are sucking'

keep telling yourself these things.

And its even funnier to see how you all react to someone calling you on it.

hahah
You know, you dont HAVE to reply to every single post...especially if you have nothing to say which helps a person asking a question.
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You know, you dont HAVE to reply to every single post...especially if you have nothing to say which helps a person asking a question.
If i am addressed I reply.

Now its turned to you telling me when and if I should post or not.

Whats your URL, lets see if we can help.

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nevermind, not too hard to guess.

http://www.mandyblake.com/

Looks good. Amateur, no clue why it wouldnt convert.

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why do people assume traffic is some global thing that if you are doing bad others must be too?

I dont understand it.

its not presumptuous for mandy to make this query

the internet is global.

the threat of a war is global.

the economy is global.

its all connected.

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Yeah but her BBW traffic has nothing to do with my 'bukkake' traffic does it?

So its not really connected.

I push sites that are way different than Mandy's, amateur girls deal in different types of traffic, such as 'amateur girl' 'cam girl' toplists, and in Mandy's case BBW toplists, BBW link exchanges, BBW yahoo groups etc...

This traffic has NOTHIng to do with if sales are down for Gothwebs Blood Dolls or not, does it?

I dont think it does, so i dont see how if Mandy isnt making sales, I most likely am not as well.

Thats all.
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No one is crying she just asked a simple question, we have been doing this for over 2.5 yrs so we are not new.
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Yeah but her BBW traffic has nothing to do with my 'bukkake' traffic does it?

So its not really connected.

I push sites that are way different than Mandy's, amateur girls deal in different types of traffic, such as 'amateur girl' 'cam girl' toplists, and in Mandy's case BBW toplists, BBW link exchanges, BBW yahoo groups etc...

This traffic has NOTHIng to do with if sales are down for Gothwebs Blood Dolls or not, does it?

I dont think it does, so i dont see how if Mandy isnt making sales, I most likely am not as well.

Thats all.
Obviously I asked the wrong question...you can help me if you want though =))
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there are patterns in stats you should be able to trouble shoot it on your end. not what others are doing.

if for some reason every Wed is bad could be a number of things like Processing. someone could have mailed you on sunday for great conversions and it trickling down now. who knows

there's always one day out of the week where our sales drop about 10-20% with the same traffic. but I still have not been able to figure it out. and it happens every week
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cuz there are patterns, fletch.

Such as nice weather in the summer.. pulling people away from their computers.

I know i'm feeling like shit after partying hard last night for mardi gras. That's where i'd put my money.
Or, perhaps it's Ash Wednesday.
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'blah. blahblah.'

'the sky is falling.'

'my site isnt converting.'

lets blame it on a global El Nino of bad luck.

i dont believe these things.

There are no patterns, the day I think because its sunny outside Joe Blow aint rubbing one off to his monitor is the day I quit this job.

you guys bring it on yourself.

if you aint making sales, its YOUR fault.

no one elses.

*Points to Brett, the guy that owns a paysite, then points to you...*
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why do people assume traffic is some global thing that if you are doing bad others must be too?

I dont understand it.

agreed. a thousand variables involved. and a single day? give me a fucking break.
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*Points to Brett, the guy that owns a paysite, then points to you...*
What exactly does this mean?

All I said was, traffic isnt some global thing that if <i>you </i>are doing bad, <i>I</i> must be too.

I see no flaw in that theory.

I do see flaw in 'If you own a paysite, that means you know how to run it.'

(nothing against brett, im an affiliate hahaha)
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What the fuck does a processor similarity have to do with if your tour sucks and you arent converting?

so - in your mind - there is only TWO variables to a site converting - the tour and the traffic?

It would be nice if it were that simple.
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Or, perhaps it's Ash Wednesday.

Thankfully 99% of our buyers won't be able to go 40 days with out porn!!
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so - in your mind - there is only TWO variables to a site converting - the tour and the traffic?

It would be nice if it were that simple.
C'mon man, you guys are digging way too into what I said, which happens more often than not, not sure why.

Anyhow, All i was saying was just because I use CC bill and you do too, why would that have an effect on sales during the week?

In addition, if I deal in gay traffic, what does that have to do with Dorm Angels sales this week? Or the traffic? Nothing.

I need not argue these things man.

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speaking of gay traffic.

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C'mon man, you guys are digging way too into what I said, which happens more often than not, not sure why.
Anyhow, All i was saying was just because I use CC bill and you do too, why would that have an effect on sales during the week?

I need not argue these things man.

hahaha

the only reason I posted on this - was because several other amateur sites came to me saying that they had noticed a decrease in their sales. (sunday, monday, tuesday).

But just because we're amateur - our traffic sources aren't necessarily the same - however the demographics probably are.

anyway - the biller does effect sales rates.

It's called scrubbing. it's alledged some processors scrub harder at certain times of the month.

the reason they might do this - is because they are approaching the upper bound on how many charge backs they can have - and so they want to be REALLY sure that if they process the transaction they are not going to get a charge back from it.

So there is a second variable.

If 45% of the global internet traffic is Based in the US and the west coast is hit by another worm virus and has ISP/Network outages - you're going to notice a drop in signups.

etc...

Tour and the girls on your tour - is of course - NO 1. but there are daily fluctuations. Some of which go far outside 2 standard deviations ... some even 3 .. and it's at that point that you start scratching your head.

We may never know the real reason - but guessing at something - let's you get on with your day - and tomorrow - even if you don't change the tour at all - sales bounce back to normal.

It's like going to church - it might not do any good - but it makes some people feel better - cuz they think they will okay after death.
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well, i dont pray or go to church and i only take cash on my paysites anyway.

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Old 03-06-2003, 12:42 AM   #41
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Sales are alway slower for me at the beginning of the month. I guess people get their credit card bills.
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Old 03-06-2003, 12:44 AM   #42
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Sales are higher than normal for us.
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:46 AM   #43
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What exactly does this mean?

All I said was, traffic isnt some global thing that if <i>you </i>are doing bad, <i>I</i> must be too.

I see no flaw in that theory.

I do see flaw in 'If you own a paysite, that means you know how to run it.'

(nothing against brett, im an affiliate hahaha)
Big flaw...

The guy asked if anyone else was doing bad, not if everyone was doing bad. Like Roger said, there are obvious fluctuations overall... Processors, Consumer Spending Trends, even days of the week.

Read up on the law of averages.

and I dont remember saying if you own a paysite you know how to run it. I pointed at Brett, then you. I think Brett knows how to run a paysite... and knows more about running a paysite and the effects of that, more than you.

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me... I just think you're wrong, no offense meant, Fletch ol' Boy. =)

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Old 03-06-2003, 02:41 AM   #44
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Fletch & Quiet are correct. first one day . . . bitch about a month maybe, but not a single day. Or even a week. If you have steady traffic and convert well, you *might* notice a trend for a week.

But it really comes down to how you present your site and sell yourself. take a month, see how sales are, and if they are off by a lot then maybe think about tweaking your tour - adding daily pictures, changing the layout a little, etc.
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