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Old 01-03-2014, 10:39 AM   #1
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undocumented immigrant can practice law?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/02/justic...igrant-lawyer/

California Supreme court will give illegal aliens anything I guess.

I have to ask, how can a anyone practice law when they're breaking it?
I guess that's what they mean by practice!
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:10 AM   #2
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I'm still shocked at the driver license one. How the fuck can CA issue a driver license to someone here illegally?
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Who better to practice law than those who break them?

Sounds like a typical lawyer to me actually.

The law has nothing to do with actual justice or do you still believe that? It is all about manipulating the system and working around the law.

If I am guilty that guy would be the first one I would call to get me off.

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California Supreme court will give illegal aliens anything I guess.

I have to ask, how can a anyone practice law when they're breaking it?
I guess that's what they mean by practice!
why do you got to be such a racist?
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Who better to practice law than those who break them?

Sounds like a typical lawyer to me actually.

The law has nothing to do with actual justice or do you still believe that? It is all about manipulating the system and working around the law.

If I am guilty that guy would be the first one I would call to get me off.
This is true for sure. Most attorneys are simply paid liars, nothing more. The closer you get to a courtroom, the worse they get.
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I don't see the issue here.

Long before I worked in porn, I used to work in hotels in Alameda County (Just outside of the San Francisco Bay Area). Four times a year all of the local hotels would book up solid. Four times a year the state attorney tests are given at multiple locations, and one of the locations was the local fairgrounds. People came from all around the world to take this test - If you can practice law in California in the United States you can practice law anywhere in the world. (Not really, but for the price of a plane ticket, a hotel room, and a small fee it's impressive on a resume when you are an attorney in India or what not.)

I would imagine this is rather common with International law.

I do have an issue with driver's licenses, however. I don't believe we should have out a driver's licence to any non citizen who wants it. I can't move to the UK and get a driver's license there, but I believe I can get a international driver's license which is for foreigners. (Correct me if I am wrong please.)
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i bet his speciality is immigration law.
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He snuck into the US all by himself, at 17 months old. Lived only here in the US. Speaks English. Went to US schools his whole life, but he's "illegal". Makes no sense whatsoever.

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I don't see the issue here.

Long before I worked in porn, I used to work in hotels in Alameda County (Just outside of the San Francisco Bay Area). Four times a year all of the local hotels would book up solid. Four times a year the state attorney tests are given at multiple locations, and one of the locations was the local fairgrounds. People came from all around the world to take this test - If you can practice law in California in the United States you can practice law anywhere in the world. (Not really, but for the price of a plane ticket, a hotel room, and a small fee it's impressive on a resume when you are an attorney in India or what not.)

I would imagine this is rather common with International law.

I do have an issue with driver's licenses, however. I don't believe we should have out a driver's licence to any non citizen who wants it. I can't move to the UK and get a driver's license there, but I believe I can get a international driver's license which is for foreigners. (Correct me if I am wrong please.)
How is your Prized ILLEGAL Lawyer going to get around, without a Drivers License???
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The law on this was changed in California.

People from other states and countries need to recognized by the California bar to practice law in the California Courts but this is not the case here.

What I wonder is why Mr. Garcia was denied a Green Card after 20 years in this country?
Seems that he is a "de facto" resident alien anyway.
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why do you got to be such a racist?
Why do you got to be such a moron?
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He snuck into the US all by himself, at 17 months old. Lived only here in the US. Speaks English. Went to US schools his whole life, but he's "illegal". Makes no sense whatsoever.
You left out how he left the country for 8 years and came back to the US when he was 17
How did he go to US schools his WHOLE life?
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California Supreme court will give illegal aliens anything I guess.

I have to ask, how can a anyone practice law when they're breaking it?
I guess that's what they mean by practice!
as long as you are qualified you can practice law any time you want, almost anywhere. i dont think citizenship is required at all.

many people self defend in court. by your "logic" above that should not be allowed either?

your hate blinds you, sad. just because someone didnt check in at the door doesnt make them a lesser person or give reason to strip them of any rights. it just means they broke a rule. next time you speed, will you lose some rights too? should that be fair?
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I don't see the issue here.

Long before I worked in porn, I used to work in hotels in Alameda County (Just outside of the San Francisco Bay Area). Four times a year all of the local hotels would book up solid. Four times a year the state attorney tests are given at multiple locations, and one of the locations was the local fairgrounds. People came from all around the world to take this test - If you can practice law in California in the United States you can practice law anywhere in the world. (Not really, but for the price of a plane ticket, a hotel room, and a small fee it's impressive on a resume when you are an attorney in India or what not.)

I would imagine this is rather common with International law.

I do have an issue with driver's licenses, however. I don't believe we should have out a driver's licence to any non citizen who wants it. I can't move to the UK and get a driver's license there, but I believe I can get a international driver's license which is for foreigners. (Correct me if I am wrong please.)
You are wrong! I i have driven in many countries and never had a problem. they would prefer you get an international drivers license, which is basically just a standard format translated drivers license, but ive never ahd a problem being pulled over or renting a car without one(even on opposite drive countries). not every country is uptight like america, many cops will just shrug and let you go, policing should be to keep people save, not an income source. as long as you KNOW how to drive and someone approved it, thats within the 'spirit' of most driving laws.
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as long as you are qualified you can practice law any time you want, almost anywhere. i dont think citizenship is required at all.

many people self defend in court. by your "logic" above that should not be allowed either?

your hate blinds you, sad. just because someone didnt check in at the door doesnt make them a lesser person or give reason to strip them of any rights. it just means they broke a rule. next time you speed, will you lose some rights too? should that be fair?
Another race baiter, Go Fuck Yourself

Illegal aliens cost a lot of money in taxes that could be used for better things for the people that are here legally you shit for brains

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/17/re...grant-parents/
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think about that

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as long as you are qualified you can practice law any time you want, almost anywhere. i dont think citizenship is required at all.

many people self defend in court. by your "logic" above that should not be allowed either?
this just simply is not the case. and self-defended cases are strictly limited by several legal guidelines.

in fact it's a crime known as unauthorized practice of law

Black's Law Dictionary succinctly defines unauthorized practice of law by a person, typically a nonlawyer, who has not been licensed or admitted to practice law in a given jurisdiction.
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Another race baiter, Go Fuck Yourself

Illegal aliens cost a lot of money in taxes that could be used for better things for the people that are here legally you shit for brains

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/17/re...grant-parents/
id rather be a shit for brains then a racist, bigot, short sighted idiot, that doesnt understand how the world works.

a link to a stupid website on the internet doesnt prove a thing. i can show other peoples math that show how much illegal immigration ADDs to our economy.

move along, idiot!

p.s. the wise say you lose an argument when you result to name calling, thanks for making me a winner, seeing as your only response was name calling, no intelligent response or anything.

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this just simply is not the case. and self-defended cases are strictly limited by several legal guidelines.

in fact it's a crime known as unauthorized practice of law

Black's Law Dictionary succinctly defines unauthorized practice of law by a person, typically a nonlawyer, who has not been licensed or admitted to practice law in a given jurisdiction.
notice how i said "qualified". read the entire sentence before responding next time. your only repeating what i said in more words.
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notice how i said "qualified". read the entire sentence before responding next time. your only repeating what i said in more words.
i read your entire post, dipshit. qualified is completely ambigous not to mention your over-simplifying self-representation. if you want to act like you know what the fuck you're talking about when it comes to legal matters then you would know full well it's all in the what's stated explicitly, not implicitly.
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Another race baiter, Go Fuck Yourself

Illegal aliens cost a lot of money in taxes that could be used for better things for the people that are here legally you shit for brains

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/17/re...grant-parents/
How would you rather it played out?:

a. he is denied from practicing law... so he can take on a more productive occupation like for example picking oranges for $5/hr?

b. he gets deported... the state spent $10s of thousands over the years subsidizing his education, so it makes sense to deport him so another country can take advantage of his acquired skills?

c. let it play out just like it did, so he can put his skills to good use in the US... he will provide useful service to residents of CA, earn a good living, pay taxes, etc

try to be objective... which of these 3 scenarios do you think is the best outcome...
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there is one way to be *qualified* to practice law in a state and that's to be accepted into the bar of that state.

there is one way that happens, by taking and passing the bar exam for that state. here's what's required to even be accepted to take the fucking bar exam::::::::

lawyers seeking admission must earn a Juris Doctor degree from a law school approved by the jurisdiction, and then pass a bar exam administered by it. Typically, there is also a character and fitness evaluation, which includes a background check. However there are exceptions to each of these requirements.
A lawyer who is admitted in one state is not automatically allowed to practice in any other.
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You are wrong! I i have driven in many countries and never had a problem. they would prefer you get an international drivers license, which is basically just a standard format translated drivers license, but ive never ahd a problem being pulled over or renting a car without one(even on opposite drive countries). not every country is uptight like america, many cops will just shrug and let you go, policing should be to keep people save, not an income source. as long as you KNOW how to drive and someone approved it, thats within the 'spirit' of most driving laws.
Don't drive in Germany without their own permit.
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Honestly, if I wanted to live in America, I'd move out of the country, renounce my citizenship, and then reenter illegally so I could live outside the law. You would get to vote, work at any occupation, get in-state tuition, get state-funded education and health care for you and your family, etc. but without all the liabilities of of citizenship.
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Another race baiter, Go Fuck Yourself

Illegal aliens cost a lot of money in taxes that could be used for better things for the people that are here legally you shit for brains

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/17/re...grant-parents/
Like paying welfare to those who keep on having kids they cannot support, or don't want to get a job because they feel they are owed 25$+ an hour. Any money saved on the illegals will not go towards the people, but will be used by the politicians for wasteful spending!
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id rather be a shit for brains then a racist, bigot, short sighted idiot, that doesnt understand how the world works.

a link to a stupid website on the internet doesnt prove a thing. i can show other peoples math that show how much illegal immigration ADDs to our economy.

move along, idiot!

p.s. the wise say you lose an argument when you result to name calling, thanks for making me a winner, seeing as your only response was name calling, no intelligent response or anything.
Yes, wear the "shit for brains" proudly

Where the fuck did I say anything about a race, Shit for Brains?
You brought it up, shows a limited capacity for debate when you say I hate them like it's a racist thing, Go Fuck Yourself.

I have a lot of Latino friends, none that I know of are here illegally, I do know one English guy that's here though, were you talking about them? You know that over 50% of LA is Latino?

Stupid website has more sense than you, before you blast it, prove it wrong Shit for Brains!

So tell me, you want "Shit for Brains" or "Fucking Moron"? Both names apply for people talking out of their collective asses with no clue that have to make up shit in a debate!
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Like paying welfare to those who keep on having kids they cannot support, or don't want to get a job because they feel they are owed 25$+ an hour. Any money saved on the illegals will not go towards the people, but will be used by the politicians for wasteful spending!
The politicians are letting this go on for more votes I believe.
That's why the FDA is sending people to Mexico to teach the Mexican nationals to better use our food stamp program
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they are getting away with things that we could not. fuck big brother!
Yes, they go to college, law school and actually become someone. Your parents celebrate high school graduations as if you finished at top 1% of Harvard. How unfair for you!
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:10 PM   #36
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Illegal aliens cost a lot of money in taxes that could be used for better things for the people that are here legally you shit for brains
I would rather see illegals working 14 hours an hour, send their kids to college and legalize themselves. US has no way to legalize those who deserve it. Instead we sponsor these "legal" shitheads.

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