The Industry Now (vs. 8 years ago) - GoFuckYourself.com

Halcyon · 12-26-2013, 07:56 PM

Hi everyone! I was visiting an old office and was flooded with so many wonderful GFY memories.
I have been out of the loop for a long time.
(I've lost my six-pack, but I still have pink hair)

I'm wondering if anyone can catch me up.

What is the State of the Industry?

When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com

What is the State of the Industry now?

I hope your year is ending beautifully.

baddog · 12-26-2013, 07:57 PM

Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014

Halcyon · 12-26-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014

Hey, Baddog! (I'm so out of practice... I keep looking for a "LIKE" button. )

baddog · 12-26-2013, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Hey, Baddog! (I'm so out of practice... I keep looking for a "LIKE" button. )

They really need to add one . . . . and I realized I meant to say "no homo" . . . I went to FUBAR to find pics but he has an error so no can do . . .

Smut · 12-26-2013, 08:04 PM

What industry?

AaronM · 12-26-2013, 08:05 PM

Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows.

I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time.

Much respect...

Halcyon · 12-26-2013, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows.

I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time.

Much respect...

Aaron! Happy New Year, old friend. You have my respect, as well.

whOaKemosabe · 12-26-2013, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Aaron! Happy New Year, old friend. You have my respect, as well.

Your the guy from the PINK hair color

always enjoyed past threads I read about yall

BFT3K · 12-26-2013, 08:45 PM

I think this chart sheds some light on the current trends...

NaughtyRob · 12-26-2013, 08:48 PM

Back then when the tubes took over the industry has not recovered. Period.

Halcyon · 12-26-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Back then when the tubes took over the industry has not recovered. Period.

That's kinda what I was wondering about. Is that the model? Flood tube sites with branded free/stolen content?

Is there a new service? did PinkTV ever manifest?

BAKO · 12-26-2013, 09:09 PM

These days is basically who u know

Mutt · 12-26-2013, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

That's kinda what I was wondering about. Is that the model? Flood tube sites with branded free/stolen content

That's about it, the honest people who produced their own content are shadows of their former selves, many went out of business, those who survive are probably making 30% of what they did when you left adult. Smart, hard working people still make a decent living using the tubes and other traffic and lead generating techniques.

What are you doing these days? Motivational speaking is a full time gig?

Halcyon · 12-26-2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

That's about it, the honest people who produced their own content are shadows of their former selves, many went out of business, those who survive are probably making 30% of what they did when you left adult. Smart, hard working people still make a decent living using the tubes and other traffic and lead generating techniques.

What are you doing these days? Motivational speaking is a full time gig?

Thanks, Mutt.

I'm working with a new company involved with fresh food distribution. It's been a wild, wacky ride.

Of course, every once in a while I come up with the perfect idea for a site...

stickyfingerz · 12-26-2013, 09:35 PM

Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well.

There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now.

Relentless · 12-26-2013, 09:59 PM

http://blog.eat24hours.com/how-to-ad...-porn-website/

SilentKnight · 12-26-2013, 10:03 PM

Good to see you droppin' by again Hal.

Still finding time for Burning Man these days?

leg4 · 12-26-2013, 10:03 PM

The paradigm among the general porn buying age public is that Porn is Free.

The idea of buying porn is laughable to them.

With that said... there will always be people that buy porn, but the percentage% is super fucking low.

EddyTheDog · 12-26-2013, 10:12 PM

Damn - Talk about a blast from the past...

I miss the Burning Man pics and saying every year that I would be there 'next year'.....

You still pink?..

Mutt · 12-26-2013, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Thanks, Mutt.

I'm working with a new company involved with fresh food distribution. It's been a wild, wacky ride.

Of course, every once in a while I come up with the perfect idea for a site...

Nice.

Why did you lose your 6 pack? Just middle age or you don't work out and watch your diet like you used to?

What happened to 'Ashley' the girl who had a solo college girl site?

Spunky · 12-26-2013, 10:35 PM

The people miss the Halcyon.Happy Holidays

Halcyon · 12-27-2013, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

Nice.

Why did you lose your 6 pack? Just middle age or you don't work out and watch your diet like you used to?

Just getting older and slowing down.

Less gym time, too. Light yoga is more my pace.

seeandsee · 12-27-2013, 03:32 AM

what did't changed

djroof · 12-27-2013, 03:49 AM

Welcome back dude! Still have the cd from Flashcash! Old good times... about now... yes I think LIVE CAMS has $$$

Oracle Porn · 12-27-2013, 04:37 AM

burning man celebrity is in the house

MaDalton · 12-27-2013, 04:39 AM

heh - long time no see ;)

some people are still doing fine

from my experience: those who use tubes as marketing instrument do well, those that fought them have disappeared mostly

michael.kickass · 12-27-2013, 06:10 AM

Welcome back!

Paul&John · 12-27-2013, 07:24 AM

Hi! I still have your flashcash mix cd in mp3 somewhere on my hdd

Jel · 12-27-2013, 07:28 AM

link to the TED talk anyone?

Paul&John · 12-27-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

link to the TED talk anyone?

its right in his sig

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be

dadyda12 · 12-27-2013, 07:49 AM

Welcome Back Man

CIVMatt · 12-27-2013, 07:50 AM

Hal!

Hey buddy good to hear from you. I have no input on your question right now but it's good to see you.

tony286 · 12-27-2013, 07:51 AM

Got to figure another 50 % of the industry will be gone by 2015. Huff post did a article on how the love porn http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4481738.html
Its really how they love free porn and how Americans watch 10 mins and thats about the time clips are now given for promotion because they said that time length converts best. How people accepted that baffles me.

tony286 · 12-27-2013, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

its right in his sig

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be

a great TED Talk

Jel · 12-27-2013, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John

its right in his sig

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be

lol, shows how much I look at sigs

thanks mate

pornguy · 12-27-2013, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO

These days is basically who u know

Somewhat.

More of are you willing to work or do you want to sit back and bitch.

Most just want to bitch.

adamneve · 12-27-2013, 08:02 AM

ooooh what a blast from the past, great to see you doing fine and good to have you on board again

fuzebox · 12-27-2013, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well.

There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now.

I agree with this.

Paul&John · 12-27-2013, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

lol, shows how much I look at sigs

thanks mate

np

.

NoWhErE · 12-27-2013, 08:20 AM

Glad to see you're doing good Hal. It's been awhile since our adventures in Budapest!

Jel · 12-27-2013, 08:47 AM

very nice TED talk

CarlosTheGaucho · 12-27-2013, 08:48 AM

Glad that all is well, I too still keep that Tramp Stamp CD somewhere.

Eight years ago it was a whole different vibe, while it was relatively easy to be a part of a very profitable and established business model, biz had it's own mystique, heroes and role models.

Now that the landscape and marketing game changed, some sold at the right time (around 2008), some simply took the money and ran as it became tougher to make the ends meet without changing their business (or their spending habits).

There are a few companies that are a step ahead of the pack, securing that the step is long enough either technologically or moneywise. And there are definitely areas where one can compete, given that one accepts the reality (which plenty still, even after years seem to deny).

Otherwise there's always a company or two that debuts - overspends, crashes and burns, some try to compensate low sales with more agressive approach, some get outed as shady, plenty of copycats around - I guess business as usual

xNetworx · 12-27-2013, 08:50 AM

Hey Hal! Almost everybody making money has been vilified by the frustrated majority who aren't doing well. GFY is basically class warfare and trolling. You would not like it here

Rebel D · 12-27-2013, 08:54 AM

Great to see you again hal. Will never forget our Godzilla fighting match

CaptainHowdy · 12-27-2013, 08:56 AM

Business as usual:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1129357

potter · 12-27-2013, 08:59 AM

It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead and always have a wild variety of reasons (tubes, porn is free, waa waa waa).

adultmobile · 12-27-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon

When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter

It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead.

Yes not much news in the past 5 years. In fact it is even boring, no news - same people same business models.
People watch porn for free in tubes (see the movie Don Jon: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2229499/ , the guy goes on pornhub and no any mention anyone would ever pay to watch porn videos). I can't tell how many sales Brazzer megasites are doing. For cams I can tell the sales are ok - these are not porn, are relationship addiction, which it will always work until man is not genetically fixed.
Especially on xmas day I witnessed a guy sending a $500 tip to the "gf" in Russia, special gift to her, from which I took 50% and I can not even say him thanks

Imagine if for each tip a guy send to the cam "gf", it popped up the cam site guy who also say "thanks for 50% of this", it would be quite a turn off.

Rochard · 12-27-2013, 10:01 AM

The gold rush is over, and those who didn't have business sense have folded. Some of us are still here, still making money, but it's much more difficult today.

I am working in dating these days, but still running 200 adult blogs or something like that, still profitable.

ialreadyknow · 12-27-2013, 10:09 AM

Hard times. For me, dating sites are good. The rest is fucked.

_Richard_ · 12-27-2013, 10:12 AM

welcome back!

12-26-2013, 07:56 PM	#1
Halcyon Spread The Pink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: TrampStampStudios.com Posts: 8,609	The Industry Now (vs. 8 years ago) Hi everyone! I was visiting an old office and was flooded with so many wonderful GFY memories. I have been out of the loop for a long time. (I've lost my six-pack, but I still have pink hair) I'm wondering if anyone can catch me up. What is the State of the Industry? When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com What is the State of the Industry now? I hope your year is ending beautifully. __________________ HAL on TEDx:

12-26-2013, 08:48 PM	#10
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12-26-2013, 09:09 PM	#12
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12-26-2013, 09:59 PM	#16
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12-26-2013, 10:03 PM	#18
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12-26-2013, 07:57 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014

12-26-2013, 08:04 PM	#5
Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 654	What industry?

12-26-2013, 08:05 PM	#6
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows. I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time. Much respect...

12-26-2013, 08:45 PM	#9
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	I think this chart sheds some light on the current trends...

12-26-2013, 09:35 PM	#15
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well. There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now.

12-26-2013, 10:03 PM	#17
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Good to see you droppin' by again Hal. Still finding time for Burning Man these days?

12-26-2013, 10:12 PM	#19
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,113	Damn - Talk about a blast from the past... I miss the Burning Man pics and saying every year that I would be there 'next year'..... You still pink?..

12-26-2013, 10:35 PM	#21
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12-27-2013, 03:32 AM	#23
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12-27-2013, 03:49 AM	#24
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12-27-2013, 04:37 AM	#25
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12-27-2013, 04:39 AM	#26
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12-27-2013, 06:10 AM	#27
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12-27-2013, 07:24 AM	#28
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12-27-2013, 07:28 AM	#29
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	link to the TED talk anyone?

12-27-2013, 07:49 AM	#31
dadyda12 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 74	Welcome Back Man

12-27-2013, 07:50 AM	#32
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12-27-2013, 07:51 AM	#33
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Got to figure another 50 % of the industry will be gone by 2015. Huff post did a article on how the love porn http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4481738.html Its really how they love free porn and how Americans watch 10 mins and thats about the time clips are now given for promotion because they said that time length converts best. How people accepted that baffles me.

12-27-2013, 08:02 AM	#37
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12-27-2013, 08:20 AM	#40
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,383	Glad to see you're doing good Hal. It's been awhile since our adventures in Budapest! __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

12-27-2013, 08:47 AM	#41
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	very nice TED talk

12-27-2013, 08:48 AM	#42
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,512	Glad that all is well, I too still keep that Tramp Stamp CD somewhere. Eight years ago it was a whole different vibe, while it was relatively easy to be a part of a very profitable and established business model, biz had it's own mystique, heroes and role models. Now that the landscape and marketing game changed, some sold at the right time (around 2008), some simply took the money and ran as it became tougher to make the ends meet without changing their business (or their spending habits). There are a few companies that are a step ahead of the pack, securing that the step is long enough either technologically or moneywise. And there are definitely areas where one can compete, given that one accepts the reality (which plenty still, even after years seem to deny). Otherwise there's always a company or two that debuts - overspends, crashes and burns, some try to compensate low sales with more agressive approach, some get outed as shady, plenty of copycats around - I guess business as usual __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year? Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 12-27-2013 at 08:55 AM..

12-27-2013, 08:50 AM	#43
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Hey Hal! Almost everybody making money has been vilified by the frustrated majority who aren't doing well. GFY is basically class warfare and trolling. You would not like it here

12-27-2013, 08:54 AM	#44
Rebel D Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,916	Great to see you again hal. Will never forget our Godzilla fighting match

12-27-2013, 08:56 AM	#45
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,569	Business as usual: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1129357

12-27-2013, 08:59 AM	#46
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead and always have a wild variety of reasons (tubes, porn is free, waa waa waa). __________________

12-27-2013, 10:01 AM	#48
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,996	The gold rush is over, and those who didn't have business sense have folded. Some of us are still here, still making money, but it's much more difficult today. I am working in dating these days, but still running 200 adult blogs or something like that, still profitable. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

12-27-2013, 10:09 AM	#49
ialreadyknow Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 46	Hard times. For me, dating sites are good. The rest is fucked.

12-27-2013, 10:12 AM	#50
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	welcome back!