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  • Halcyon
    Spread The Pink!
    • Dec 2002
    • 8609
    #1

    The Industry Now (vs. 8 years ago)

    Hi everyone! I was visiting an old office and was flooded with so many wonderful GFY memories.
    I have been out of the loop for a long time.
    (I've lost my six-pack, but I still have pink hair)

    I'm wondering if anyone can catch me up.

    What is the State of the Industry?

    When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com

    What is the State of the Industry now?

    I hope your year is ending beautifully.
    HAL on TEDx:
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089
      #2
      Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014

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        • Halcyon
          Spread The Pink!
          • Dec 2002
          • 8609
          #3
          Originally posted by baddog
          Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014
          Hey, Baddog! (I'm so out of practice... I keep looking for a "LIKE" button. )
          HAL on TEDx:

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089
              #4
              Originally posted by Halcyon
              Hey, Baddog! (I'm so out of practice... I keep looking for a "LIKE" button. )
              They really need to add one . . . . and I realized I meant to say "no homo" . . . I went to FUBAR to find pics but he has an error so no can do . . .

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                • Smut
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 654
                  #5
                  What industry?

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                    • AaronM
                      GFY Royality ;)
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 46917
                      #6
                      Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows.

                      I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time.

                      Much respect...

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                        • Halcyon
                          Spread The Pink!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 8609
                          #7
                          Originally posted by AaronM
                          Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows.

                          I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time.

                          Much respect...
                          Aaron! Happy New Year, old friend. You have my respect, as well.
                          HAL on TEDx:

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                            • whOaKemosabe
                              So Fucking Stoned...
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1968
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Halcyon
                              Aaron! Happy New Year, old friend. You have my respect, as well.
                              Your the guy from the PINK hair color

                              always enjoyed past threads I read about yall

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                                • BFT3K
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 10764
                                  #9
                                  I think this chart sheds some light on the current trends...

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                                    • NaughtyRob
                                      Two fresh affiliate progs
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 29602
                                      #10
                                      Back then when the tubes took over the industry has not recovered. Period.
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                                        • Halcyon
                                          Spread The Pink!
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 8609
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by NaughtyRob
                                          Back then when the tubes took over the industry has not recovered. Period.
                                          That's kinda what I was wondering about. Is that the model? Flood tube sites with branded free/stolen content?


                                          Is there a new service? did PinkTV ever manifest?
                                          HAL on TEDx:

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                                            • BAKO
                                              https://traffichaus.com/
                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 18478
                                              #12
                                              These days is basically who u know
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                                                • Mutt
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 34431
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Halcyon
                                                  That's kinda what I was wondering about. Is that the model? Flood tube sites with branded free/stolen content
                                                  That's about it, the honest people who produced their own content are shadows of their former selves, many went out of business, those who survive are probably making 30% of what they did when you left adult. Smart, hard working people still make a decent living using the tubes and other traffic and lead generating techniques.

                                                  What are you doing these days? Motivational speaking is a full time gig?
                                                  I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                    • Halcyon
                                                      Spread The Pink!
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 8609
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                      That's about it, the honest people who produced their own content are shadows of their former selves, many went out of business, those who survive are probably making 30% of what they did when you left adult. Smart, hard working people still make a decent living using the tubes and other traffic and lead generating techniques.

                                                      What are you doing these days? Motivational speaking is a full time gig?

                                                      Thanks, Mutt.

                                                      I'm working with a new company involved with fresh food distribution. It's been a wild, wacky ride. Of course, every once in a while I come up with the perfect idea for a site...
                                                      HAL on TEDx:

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                                                        • stickyfingerz
                                                          Doin fine
                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                          • 24984
                                                          #15
                                                          Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well. There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now.

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                                                            • Relentless
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                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 5697
                                                              #16
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                                                                • SilentKnight
                                                                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                  • 24812
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Good to see you droppin' by again Hal.

                                                                  Still finding time for Burning Man these days?

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                                                                    • leg4
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 4429
                                                                      #18
                                                                      The paradigm among the general porn buying age public is that Porn is Free.

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                                                                        • EddyTheDog
                                                                          Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                                          • 25433
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Damn - Talk about a blast from the past...

                                                                          I miss the Burning Man pics and saying every year that I would be there 'next year'.....

                                                                          You still pink?..

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                                                                            • Mutt
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 34431
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Halcyon
                                                                              Thanks, Mutt.

                                                                              I'm working with a new company involved with fresh food distribution. It's been a wild, wacky ride. Of course, every once in a while I come up with the perfect idea for a site...
                                                                              Nice.

                                                                              Why did you lose your 6 pack? Just middle age or you don't work out and watch your diet like you used to?

                                                                              What happened to 'Ashley' the girl who had a solo college girl site?
                                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 133978
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The people miss the Halcyon.Happy Holidays

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                                                                                    • Halcyon
                                                                                      Spread The Pink!
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 8609
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                      Nice.

                                                                                      Why did you lose your 6 pack? Just middle age or you don't work out and watch your diet like you used to?

                                                                                      Just getting older and slowing down. Less gym time, too. Light yoga is more my pace.
                                                                                      HAL on TEDx:

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                                                                                        • seeandsee
                                                                                          Check SIG!
                                                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                                                          • 50945
                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • djroof
                                                                                              JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                              • 25503
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Welcome back dude! Still have the cd from Flashcash! Old good times... about now... yes I think LIVE CAMS has $$$

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                                                                                                • Oracle Porn
                                                                                                  Affiliate
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 24433
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  burning man celebrity is in the house


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                                                                                                    • MaDalton
                                                                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                      • 39861
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      heh - long time no see ;)

                                                                                                      some people are still doing fine

                                                                                                      from my experience: those who use tubes as marketing instrument do well, those that fought them have disappeared mostly
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                                                                                                        • michael.kickass
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                                                          • 11039
                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • Paul&John
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                                                                              • 8618
                                                                                                              #28
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                                                                                                                • Jel
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                  • 6904
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  link to the TED talk anyone?

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                                                                                                                    • Paul&John
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                      • 8618
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                      link to the TED talk anyone?
                                                                                                                      its right in his sig
                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be
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                                                                                                                        • dadyda12
                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                          • Nov 2013
                                                                                                                          • 74
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Welcome Back Man

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                                                                                                                            • CIVMatt
                                                                                                                              Amateur Pimpin
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 13075
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Hal!

                                                                                                                              Hey buddy good to hear from you. I have no input on your question right now but it's good to see you.
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                                                                                                                                • tony286
                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Got to figure another 50 % of the industry will be gone by 2015. Huff post did a article on how the love porn http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4481738.html
                                                                                                                                  Its really how they love free porn and how Americans watch 10 mins and thats about the time clips are now given for promotion because they said that time length converts best. How people accepted that baffles me.

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                                                                                                                                    • tony286
                                                                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                                                                                                      its right in his sig
                                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be
                                                                                                                                      a great TED Talk

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                                                                                                                                        • Jel
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 6904
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                                                                                                          its right in his sig
                                                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be
                                                                                                                                          lol, shows how much I look at sigs thanks mate

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                                                                                                                                            • pornguy
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 62910
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BAKO
                                                                                                                                              These days is basically who u know
                                                                                                                                              Somewhat.

                                                                                                                                              More of are you willing to work or do you want to sit back and bitch.

                                                                                                                                              Most just want to bitch.
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                                                                                                                                                • adamneve
                                                                                                                                                  LIVING LA VITA LOCA
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 13333
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  ooooh what a blast from the past, great to see you doing fine and good to have you on board again
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                                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 22353
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                                                                      Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well. There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now.
                                                                                                                                                      I agree with this.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Paul&John
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 8618
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                                          lol, shows how much I look at sigs thanks mate
                                                                                                                                                          np

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                                                                                                                                                            • NoWhErE
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 10583
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Glad to see you're doing good Hal. It's been awhile since our adventures in Budapest!
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                                                                                                                                                                • Jel
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                  • 6904
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  very nice TED talk

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                                                                                                                                                                    • CarlosTheGaucho
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 9560
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Glad that all is well, I too still keep that Tramp Stamp CD somewhere.

                                                                                                                                                                      Eight years ago it was a whole different vibe, while it was relatively easy to be a part of a very profitable and established business model, biz had it's own mystique, heroes and role models.

                                                                                                                                                                      Now that the landscape and marketing game changed, some sold at the right time (around 2008), some simply took the money and ran as it became tougher to make the ends meet without changing their business (or their spending habits).

                                                                                                                                                                      There are a few companies that are a step ahead of the pack, securing that the step is long enough either technologically or moneywise. And there are definitely areas where one can compete, given that one accepts the reality (which plenty still, even after years seem to deny).

                                                                                                                                                                      Otherwise there's always a company or two that debuts - overspends, crashes and burns, some try to compensate low sales with more agressive approach, some get outed as shady, plenty of copycats around - I guess business as usual
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                                                                                                                                                                        • xNetworx
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking What
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14445
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Hey Hal! Almost everybody making money has been vilified by the frustrated majority who aren't doing well. GFY is basically class warfare and trolling. You would not like it here

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rebel D
                                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 3913
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Great to see you again hal. Will never forget our Godzilla fighting match

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                                                                                                                                                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 94034
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Business as usual:



                                                                                                                                                                                  http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1129357

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • potter
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6559
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead and always have a wild variety of reasons (tubes, porn is free, waa waa waa).

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                                          No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 5345
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Halcyon
                                                                                                                                                                                          When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by potter
                                                                                                                                                                                          It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes not much news in the past 5 years. In fact it is even boring, no news - same people same business models.
                                                                                                                                                                                          People watch porn for free in tubes (see the movie Don Jon: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2229499/ , the guy goes on pornhub and no any mention anyone would ever pay to watch porn videos). I can't tell how many sales Brazzer megasites are doing. For cams I can tell the sales are ok - these are not porn, are relationship addiction, which it will always work until man is not genetically fixed.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Especially on xmas day I witnessed a guy sending a $500 tip to the "gf" in Russia, special gift to her, from which I took 50% and I can not even say him thanks
                                                                                                                                                                                          Imagine if for each tip a guy send to the cam "gf", it popped up the cam site guy who also say "thanks for 50% of this", it would be quite a turn off.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              The gold rush is over, and those who didn't have business sense have folded. Some of us are still here, still making money, but it's much more difficult today.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I am working in dating these days, but still running 200 adult blogs or something like that, still profitable.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • ialreadyknow
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 46
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hard times. For me, dating sites are good. The rest is fucked.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • _Richard_
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 30989
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      welcome back!

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