The Industry Now (vs. 8 years ago)
 

Hi everyone! I was visiting an old office and was flooded with so many wonderful GFY memories.
I have been out of the loop for a long time.
(I've lost my six-pack, but I still have pink hair)

I'm wondering if anyone can catch me up.

What is the State of the Industry?

When last I checked, tube sites had destroyed the world and it looked like the only real revenue paths were 1) live cams and 2) Brazzers Megasites 3)Targeted Fetish/kink.com

What is the State of the Industry now?

I hope your year is ending beautifully.

Welcome back Hal . . . I will always remember our first meeting with fondness. No gay . . . not that that matters in 2014

Hey, Baddog! (I'm so out of practice... I keep looking for a "LIKE" button. ):1orglaugh

They really need to add one . . . . and I realized I meant to say "no homo" . . . I went to FUBAR to find pics but he has an error so no can do . . .

What industry?

Nice seeing you post here. I LOVED your Ted Talk and miss your awesome attitude at the shows.

I'm not cool enough to be on your FB friends list but I still follow you there from time to time.

Much respect...

Aaron! Happy New Year, old friend. You have my respect, as well.

Your the guy from the PINK hair color :1orglaugh

always enjoyed past threads I read about yall

I think this chart sheds some light on the current trends...

http://rajivbhardwaj.com/wp-content/...he_real_on.jpg

Back then when the tubes took over the industry has not recovered. Period.

That's kinda what I was wondering about. Is that the model? Flood tube sites with branded free/stolen content?


Is there a new service? did PinkTV ever manifest?

These days is basically who u know :)

That's about it, the honest people who produced their own content are shadows of their former selves, many went out of business, those who survive are probably making 30% of what they did when you left adult. Smart, hard working people still make a decent living using the tubes and other traffic and lead generating techniques.

What are you doing these days? Motivational speaking is a full time gig?

Thanks, Mutt.

I'm working with a new company involved with fresh food distribution. It's been a wild, wacky ride. :) Of course, every once in a while I come up with the perfect idea for a site... :winkwink:

Long time Hal. Glad to see you are doing well. :thumbsup There is still money to be made, just different ways to do it now. :winkwink:

Good to see you droppin' by again Hal.

Still finding time for Burning Man these days?

The paradigm among the general porn buying age public is that Porn is Free.

The idea of buying porn is laughable to them.

With that said... there will always be people that buy porn, but the percentage% is super fucking low.

Damn - Talk about a blast from the past...

I miss the Burning Man pics and saying every year that I would be there 'next year'.....

You still pink?..

Nice.

Why did you lose your 6 pack? Just middle age or you don't work out and watch your diet like you used to?

What happened to 'Ashley' the girl who had a solo college girl site?

The people miss the Halcyon.Happy Holidays

Just getting older and slowing down. :) Less gym time, too. Light yoga is more my pace. :)

what did't changed :)

Welcome back dude! Still have the cd from Flashcash! Old good times... about now... yes I think LIVE CAMS has $$$

burning man celebrity is in the house :)

heh - long time no see ;)

some people are still doing fine :glugglug

from my experience: those who use tubes as marketing instrument do well, those that fought them have disappeared mostly

Welcome back!

Hi! I still have your flashcash mix cd in mp3 somewhere on my hdd :)

link to the TED talk anyone?

its right in his sig :)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qOn6M...ature=youtu.be

Welcome Back Man :thumbsup

Hal!

Hey buddy good to hear from you. I have no input on your question right now but it's good to see you.

Got to figure another 50 % of the industry will be gone by 2015. Huff post did a article on how the love porn http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4481738.html
Its really how they love free porn and how Americans watch 10 mins and thats about the time clips are now given for promotion because they said that time length converts best. How people accepted that baffles me.

a great TED Talk

lol, shows how much I look at sigs :1orglaugh thanks mate :thumbsup

Somewhat.

More of are you willing to work or do you want to sit back and bitch.

Most just want to bitch.

ooooh what a blast from the past, great to see you doing fine and good to have you on board again

I agree with this.

np :)

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Glad to see you're doing good Hal. It's been awhile since our adventures in Budapest!

very nice TED talk :thumbsup

Glad that all is well, I too still keep that Tramp Stamp CD somewhere.

Eight years ago it was a whole different vibe, while it was relatively easy to be a part of a very profitable and established business model, biz had it's own mystique, heroes and role models.

Now that the landscape and marketing game changed, some sold at the right time (around 2008), some simply took the money and ran as it became tougher to make the ends meet without changing their business (or their spending habits).

There are a few companies that are a step ahead of the pack, securing that the step is long enough either technologically or moneywise. And there are definitely areas where one can compete, given that one accepts the reality (which plenty still, even after years seem to deny).

Otherwise there's always a company or two that debuts - overspends, crashes and burns, some try to compensate low sales with more agressive approach, some get outed as shady, plenty of copycats around - I guess business as usual :)

Hey Hal! Almost everybody making money has been vilified by the frustrated majority who aren't doing well. GFY is basically class warfare and trolling. You would not like it here :2 cents:

Great to see you again hal. Will never forget our Godzilla fighting match

Business as usual:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ews/poetry.jpg

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1129357

It's exactly the same. People who are making money usually don't have the time to talk all day on the boards. The people who aren't making money are always complaining that porn is dead and always have a wild variety of reasons (tubes, porn is free, waa waa waa).

Yes not much news in the past 5 years. In fact it is even boring, no news - same people same business models.
People watch porn for free in tubes (see the movie Don Jon: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2229499/ , the guy goes on pornhub and no any mention anyone would ever pay to watch porn videos). I can't tell how many sales Brazzer megasites are doing. For cams I can tell the sales are ok - these are not porn, are relationship addiction, which it will always work until man is not genetically fixed.
Especially on xmas day I witnessed a guy sending a $500 tip to the "gf" in Russia, special gift to her, from which I took 50% and I can not even say him thanks :)
Imagine if for each tip a guy send to the cam "gf", it popped up the cam site guy who also say "thanks for 50% of this", it would be quite a turn off.

The gold rush is over, and those who didn't have business sense have folded. Some of us are still here, still making money, but it's much more difficult today.

I am working in dating these days, but still running 200 adult blogs or something like that, still profitable.

Hard times. For me, dating sites are good. The rest is fucked.

welcome back!