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Old 12-20-2013, 01:04 PM   #1
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Why are webmasters always complaining about Google?

Why are webmasters pissed at Google when their traffic slows down?

I use a lot of Social Media and other traffic sources and that works for me. I don't rely on Google traffic. That traffic is nice, but I don't need it to make sales or be happy. It's 2013 and almost 2014... So when I read about "adapt or die" I always think about those webmasters that still think it's 2006 and Google is the only real traffic source...

We don't need Google... We just need to play harder.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:12 PM   #2
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Well, I guess it depends on what makes YOU happy. For some people an extra 1k a month is "enough" to make them happy. Others, like me, who live in New York motherfucking CITY, we need HUNDREDS of sales to make us "happy".

But to answer your question: Google is important but to JUST rely on Google, or to constantly play the PR and keyword game is becoming less and less profitable.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:16 PM   #3
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Simply said: Not everyone is familiar with the "social game". You need to know what you are doing to not loose your empire (tumblr deleting blogs and so on).

Why don't you write a tutorial for the GFY folks, I'm sure many webmasters are interested and don't know what potential social sites have.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:39 PM   #5
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:02 PM   #6
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Simply said: Not everyone is familiar with the "social game". You need to know what you are doing to not loose your empire (tumblr deleting blogs and so on).

Why don't you write a tutorial for the GFY folks, I'm sure many webmasters are interested and don't know what potential social sites have.
I don't write a tutorial because English is not my native language. I can write it in Dutch, but then I need someone to translate it..

But I have many social profiles.. I have 30 high quality Twitter accounts and a lot of FB pages. Yes, I know FB doesn't allow adult content, but you can work around that. Just keep it clean.. About Tumblr; Yes I lost a lot of blogs in the past, but not anymore. Just keep it simple and clean and then there are still a lot of ways to generate traffic.... But I have many other ways to generate traffic. Google isn't king anymore.

Don't get me wrong. I love Google traffic, but I see a lot of people that only rely on the Google traffic and when that doesn't work they shut everything down and choose a new direction like mainstream..

Fuck.. I just love to play this traffic game and wanted to see if other webmasters think the same way about Google.
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #7
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I don't write a tutorial because English is not my native language. I can write it in Dutch, but then I need someone to translate it..

But I have many social profiles.. I have 30 high quality Twitter accounts and a lot of FB pages. Yes, I know FB doesn't allow adult content, but you can work around that. Just keep it clean.. About Tumblr; Yes I lost a lot of blogs in the past, but not anymore. Just keep it simple and clean and then there are still a lot of ways to generate traffic.... But I have many other ways to generate traffic. Google isn't king anymore.

Don't get me wrong. I love Google traffic, but I see a lot of people that only rely on the Google traffic and when that doesn't work they shut everything down and choose a new direction like mainstream..

Fuck.. I just love to play this traffic game and wanted to see if other webmasters think the same way about Google.
Sure, if you have other traffic sources next to google, that's great.

Would love to get some hints...do you use ICQ?
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:06 PM   #8
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Can u post one of ur twitter urls. Would love to see how you approach it.

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:25 PM   #9
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because google sucks lately
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:58 PM   #10
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One misstep and all your social accounts will get taken out in one swoop. Seems more risky to me

Meanwhile google is always tinkering with shit. Google "gay sex" and it's all mainstream now
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:48 PM   #11
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Google is king. Google can send you unlimited amounts of traffic and you won't have to work with it. With social networking you'll have to work for every fucking hit and you can loose it at any time.
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While Google is king, bing is a good princely traffic source.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:05 AM   #13
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you mean social media spamming? call it right names ...
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:00 AM   #14
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I don't write a tutorial because English is not my native language. I can write it in Dutch, but then I need someone to translate it..

But I have many social profiles.. I have 30 high quality Twitter accounts and a lot of FB pages. Yes, I know FB doesn't allow adult content, but you can work around that. Just keep it clean.. About Tumblr; Yes I lost a lot of blogs in the past, but not anymore. Just keep it simple and clean and then there are still a lot of ways to generate traffic.... But I have many other ways to generate traffic. Google isn't king anymore.

Don't get me wrong. I love Google traffic, but I see a lot of people that only rely on the Google traffic and when that doesn't work they shut everything down and choose a new direction like mainstream..

Fuck.. I just love to play this traffic game and wanted to see if other webmasters think the same way about Google.
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:33 AM   #15
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Why are webmasters pissed at Google when their traffic slows down?
Because they rely on Google: Slapping up a site and waiting for traffic to fall from the sky...

When the traffic doesn't flow, they blame Google instead of themselves
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Because they rely on Google: Slapping up a site and waiting for traffic to fall from the sky...

When the traffic doesn't flow, they blame Google instead of themselves
it is not like waiting for traffic for nothing ... it is tons of tries, it is tons of time and energy to find out how and what works at the moment, then when google makes change, of course people are pissed ... i have tried tons of things and now i am using few methods to get in and traffic from google. but, when you see what google makes, what changes and what is on serps that you used to have, it is really not like we are just crying, truth is that google is totally useless crap for most of my search, not talking about my serps ...
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it is not like waiting for traffic for nothing ... it is tons of tries, it is tons of time and energy to find out how and what works at the moment, then when google makes change, of course people are pissed ... i have tried tons of things and now i am using few methods to get in and traffic from google. but, when you see what google makes, what changes and what is on serps that you used to have, it is really not like we are just crying, truth is that google is totally useless crap for most of my search, not talking about my serps ...
for example ... try to search for: new porn sites ... do you think the results are accurate? i am not crying that my 6bot is not on the first page anymore, just asking, are those results for you accurate?
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for example ... try to search for: new porn sites ... do you think the results are accurate? i am not crying that my 6bot is not on the first page anymore, just asking, are those results for you accurate?
and now, try bing for the same keywords ... what gives you more accurate results?
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you are right man iam doing that too in my arabic side and all is ok for me
plz dont post ur twitter or facebook acount here theres same fucker here will report u hust to lose them dont post them here listen to me
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you are right man iam doing that too in my arabic side and all is ok for me
plz dont post ur twitter or facebook acount here theres same fucker here will report u hust to lose them dont post them here listen to me
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and now, try bing for the same keywords ... what gives you more accurate results?
Bing is better, but Google has the volume.

I might want to sell Ferraris, but where I live, Ford trucks are what everyone uses, so if I wanted to open a dealership...

A big point is the issues that "webmasters" blame Google for are often things that Google clearly stated are not allowed -- any type of paid link for example, or things such as link exchanges / plug programs, etc. -- lots of GFcryers use these techniques and then blame Google for penalizing them. It's stupid.
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I'm getting a lot better traffic from Bing now...I mean I still get a ton of good traffic from Google and Google has always treated my websites well but the Bing traffic has really been ramping up lately.
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A big point is the issues that "webmasters" blame Google for are often things that Google clearly stated are not allowed -- any type of paid link for example, or things such as link exchanges / plug programs, etc. -- lots of GFcryers use these techniques and then blame Google for penalizing them. It's stupid.
Yeah, absolutely correct. It's nothing easier than creating an adult site that gets natural inbound links from non-adult authority sites. Just create a site with awesome content and wait for other sites linking to you cause everyone is proud to state he's jerking off on porn videos
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I got rocked by google recently but have other traffic streams thankfully to make up for it. But online gambling in the markets i promote has become increasingly more difficult to promote via Social media and Adwords.
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It's nothing easier than creating an adult site that gets natural inbound links from non-adult authority sites.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it instead of crying about a lack of sales/traffic here

There are folks who DO succeed at this, however -- but you won't see them here revealing how...

I've said it before: make ONE site and work it. The "get $1 a day x 1,000 sites" mindset doesn't apply.

Google knows better even if some site owners don't

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