Is Libertarianism LESS RACIST than conservatism or liberalism?

[$5 submissions]

I am not too big on Rand's take on religion and faith but she's spot on regarding racism and bio-determinism



What do you think?

[L-Pink]

As far as this Libertarian goes it doesn't matter what race, sex, or sexual orientation you are as long as you live in peace and leave me alone.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

As far as this Libertarian goes it doesn't matter what race, sex, or sexual orientation you are as long as you live in peace and leave me alone.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Libertarian Will Wilkinson, writing in The Economist (2013), helpfully locates ?the core of the problem with libertarian populism,? namely that ?right-wing populism in America has always amounted to white identity politics,? ? unlike left-wing populism, which of course has never amounted to racial identity politics, except the good kind (non-white).

Thus ?the only notable libertarian-leaning politicians to generate real excitement among conservative voters have risen to prominence through alliances with racist and nativist movements.? The magazine generously allows for ?[w]ell-meaning, libertarian-leaning, small-government conservatives? who, not being evil white racists, ?must find this awfully frustrating.?

Orwell?s "Politics and the English Language", identifies libertarianism as ?the velvet glove over the iron fist of racism,? a fist which maintains a ?stranglehold of white rule? even as the glove which is on the fist manages to simultaneously ?prop up institutional bigotry? and ?neuter? the government?s ?power.?

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[Robbie]

I'm Libertarian. And if you know me at all, then you know I am the Anti-Racist. lol

All the people that I actually know who are Libertarian, are also in the porn biz. And they aren't the clowns on GFY who are homophobic and racist.

I think most people are Libertarian without even knowing it (at least the ones who aren't profiting off of the govt.).
Most folks just want to be able to live their lives, raise their families and be left alone.

[slavdogg]

the only people that see everything through the prism of racism are either progressive liberals or the Ku Klux Klan

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Most folks just want to be able to live their lives, raise their families and be left alone.

Until they need help from the government whether it's municipal, state or federal.

A country of 330 million people - yeah, libertarianism is gonna work

If you want to live in a libertarian state buy an island, I was going to add get a time machine and travel back to 1776 but even in its earliest stages the United States wasn't libertarian, far from it.

There's not a developed country on this planet with 'small government', because it can't work. It's a pipe dream.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

What do you think?

that Ayn Rand is a a shitty human being and even shittier writer of fantasy novels.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

As far as this Libertarian goes it doesn't matter what race, sex, or sexual orientation you are as long as you live in peace and leave me alone.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

the only people that see everything through the prism of racism are either progressive liberals or the Ku Klux Klan

The KKK was the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party during the Reconstruction years in the South. Seriously. Famous KKK alumni include: Sen. Robert Byrd (D), President Harry Truman (D), Hugo Black (D - FDR appointee to SCOTUS), etc etc.

KKK sympathizer: President Woodrow Wilson (D). He liked the Klan so much, he wrote the dedicatory text for one of the most racist flicks ever to grace the cinema screen: Griffith's Birth of a Nation.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Until they need help from the government whether it's municipal, state or federal.

A country of 330 million people - yeah, libertarianism is gonna work

If you want to live in a libertarian state buy an island, I was going to add get a time machine and travel back to 1776 but even in its earliest stages the United States wasn't libertarian, far from it.

There's not a developed country on this planet with 'small government', because it can't work. It's a pipe dream.

Government doesn't "work". Crime is rampant. Wealth disparity is off the charts. The economies of the world are tanking. Police states are burgeoning. Armed conflicts all over the globe. Pollution. Strife. Discord.

BUT HOLY FUCK, WE CAN'T TRY LIVE AND LET LIVE! That is a bridge too far!

[tony286]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

The KKK was the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party during the Reconstruction years in the South. Seriously. Famous KKK alumni include: Sen. Robert Byrd (D), President Harry Truman (D), Hugo Black (D - FDR appointee to SCOTUS), etc etc.

KKK sympathizer: President Woodrow Wilson (D). He liked the Klan so much, he wrote the dedicatory text for one of the most racist flicks ever to grace the cinema screen: Griffith's Birth of a Nation.

Where do you get this? lol I know about Byrd, Truman I dont think so.
Also political advice from Ayn Rand is like Religious advice from Ron L Hubbard.

[TheSquealer]

I was watching Goodfellas the other day with my girlfriend. Joe Pesci's character exclaims to Henry; "can you believe it? A Jew broad predjudiced against Italians!". I looked at my gf (not Caucasian) and asked "did you notice something unusual in what was said?". She said yes and said exactly what I was thinking "when was the last time you heard the word 'prejudiced' used?"

There was a time when people discerned between prejudice, bigotry and racism. Now, racism basically means "you said something I don't want to hea, so I'm going to shut you upr", rather than its original meaning which was essentially the belief that a human is less intelligent or less coordinated and so on, strictly because of that individuals race.

People today have zero clue as to the meaning of racism and it's never defined from the outset of any discussion of the issue.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

The KKK was the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party during the Reconstruction years in the South. Seriously. Famous KKK alumni include: Sen. Robert Byrd (D), President Harry Truman (D), Hugo Black (D - FDR appointee to SCOTUS), etc etc.

KKK sympathizer: President Woodrow Wilson (D). He liked the Klan so much, he wrote the dedicatory text for one of the most racist flicks ever to grace the cinema screen: Griffith's Birth of a Nation.

All QFT.


To anyone too young to remember, they called them Dixiecrats in the 1960s




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[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Until they need help from the government whether it's municipal, state or federal.

A country of 330 million people - yeah, libertarianism is gonna work

If you want to live in a libertarian state buy an island, I was going to add get a time machine and travel back to 1776 but even in its earliest stages the United States wasn't libertarian, far from it.

There's not a developed country on this planet with 'small government', because it can't work. It's a pipe dream.

I totally and completely disagree with you. And yes, in the beginning of the U.S. the principles and ideas of the founding fathers for the Federal Govt. are exactly what a Libertarian (myself) believes in.

And the only reason there isn't a developed country on Earth with "small govt." is because govt. GROWS over time and gets out of control.

Do you really not think that the Federal Govt. is too big? Spending 10 BILLION dollars a day? A 17 TRILLION dollar deficit? Lifetime/Career politicians?

And you're okay with that? Because having a small efficient federal govt. is a "pipe dream"?

Yep, and so was a small group of 13 colonies winning a war for independence against the most powerful military force of the era.

Thank goodness our apathetic society wasn't in place in 1776

[Tom_PM]

People are racists, not parties or platforms and people can and will be racists no matter whose party is in power.