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Old 12-04-2013, 04:18 PM   #1
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Are we all agreed that WTC7 fell in freefall?

Looking for some common ground here

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If 9/11 was an inside job, with all it's massive complexity and potential problems, personnel required, etc.., then why didn't Bush later simply have some special forces bury some WMDs out in the Iraqi desert for the regular army to come along and "find"?

It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off, and would have provided complete justification for the invasion of Iraq.




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If 9/11 was an inside job, with all it's massive complexity and potential problems, personnel required, etc.., then why didn't Bush later simply have some special forces bury some WMDs out in the Iraqi desert for the regular army to come along and "find"?

It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off, and would have provided complete justification for the invasion of Iraq.




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Did it look like a controlled demolition resulting in a freefall?

Yes.

But is that what happened?

I don't know.

And neither do you.

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Did it look like a controlled demolition resulting in a freefall?

Yes.

But is that what happened?

I don't know.

And neither do you.

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the owner of the building admitted it. in a documentary/news thingy.
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If 9/11 was an inside job, with all it's massive complexity and potential problems, personnel required, etc.., then why didn't Bush later simply have some special forces bury some WMDs out in the Iraqi desert for the regular army to come along and "find"?

It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off, and would have provided complete justification for the invasion of Iraq.

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9/11 was the initiation of the War on Terror, which is a war on most of the Middle East and a war on the rights of the US people. The New Pearl Harbor had already got the Oligarchs what they needed; they had their wars going, they had their funding, they had already got what they needed. After getting found out about 9/11, they will be a bit nervous about each new False Flag they pull.
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Noam is a smart man, he values his life, he knows he's a dead man walking if he publically joins the 9/11 Truth Movement.
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If 9/11 was an inside job, with all it's massive complexity and potential problems, personnel required, etc.., then why didn't Bush later simply have some special forces bury some WMDs out in the Iraqi desert for the regular army to come along and "find"?

It would have been MUCH MUCH easier to pull off, and would have provided complete justification for the invasion of Iraq.




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no it did not fall at freefall.

the video completely ignores the initial collapse of the penthouse and focuses on one angle of the building. from time of initial collapse till the building was flattened was around 19 seconds

the video is completely dishonest.. Im sure you can imagine my shock that you of all people would post such tripe
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Noam is a smart man, he values his life, he knows he's a dead man walking if he publically joins the 9/11 Truth Movement.
well if you mean intellectually dead then you are correct
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the owner of the building admitted it. in a documentary/news thingy.
Total pigshit.
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Looking for some common ground here

You are either a gullible idiot...just a troll...or both. I suspect both.
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the owner of the building admitted it. in a documentary/news thingy.
Yes, I've seen that clip numerous times.

I still have problems with the timing/logistics.

The attacks on the twin towers began at 8:46am.
WTC7 came down at 5:21pm.

So despite the ongoing firefighting efforts in WTC7 until mid-afternoon...they still managed to rig the entire building within a matter of just 8 hours to "pull it" with controlled detonations?

And 8 hours is generous - if one believes the decision to "pull" WTC7 was made immediately after the first plane hit the tower.
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are we all agreed that op has shit for brains?

just looking for some common ground here
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just looking for some common ground here
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Looking for some common ground here

A bimbo reporter from the bbc broadcasted building 7 is falling. The mother fucking building was behind her in the live shot. Condoleezza Rices July 2011 memos tells the damn story. Not saying Bush was behind it, he let it play out as with Osama bin Laden.
Gonna tell me the CIA, Green Berets, the mother fucking teams and drones, couldn't capture his lanky ass hanging out in a fucking cave since 2011. Naw, Bush killed Saddam in a country with no al-Qaeda.
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12 years later and all the *truth* movement has left is clinging to a claim of free fall on a tertiary structure in the collapsing bldgs.

and common ground? hah, many of us were trying to find common ground with the truthers years ago but nope, it's the truther highway or no highway.

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Date: January 9, 1996
TO: Vancouver City Council
FROM: City Building Inspector
SUBJECT: Demolition of Dangerous Building
City staff have contacted the property owner by phone to request that he obtain a demolition permit and pull down and demolish the building, however, the owner has demonstrated no desire to cooperate.

http://199.175.219.1/ctyclerk/cclerk/960116/a5.htm


Sept. 24, '98
Four executive members of the Atebubu youth association (AYA) have been arrested by the police
over the demolition of a building which was being rehabilitated for use as the office of the Atebubu town council.
Members of the association allegedly went on rampage and pulled down the building
because, according to them "as a swish building, it was not fit to be used as a town council office."
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePag...el.php?ID=4018


The next house erected in Seneca was a concrete stone building, put up by Downing & Stewart;
the latter soon after selling to A. M. Smith. Downing & Smith sold to L. J. McGowan,
who finally pulled down the building and erected the substantial stone structure in which Hazard & Sons now do business.
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Because if a building falls in freefall that means it was 100% positively controlled demolition. Is that what the idiot person is saying?
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12 years later and all the *truth* movement has left is clinging to a claim of free fall on a tertiary structure in the collapsing bldgs.

and common ground? hah, many of us were trying to find common ground with the truthers years ago but nope, it's the truther highway or no highway.

Even when their highway leads to a bridge to nowhere.
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They still discuss Kennedy, and 9/11 is much bigger than that, so you better get used to this

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Because if a building falls in freefall that means it was 100% positively controlled demolition. Is that what the idiot person is saying?
I'm looking for common ground that's all, we can move forward from there
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move forward to what?
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How was it supposed to fall...In slow motion?
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How was it supposed to fall...In slow motion?
If it wasn't a controlled demo it should be slower than freefall
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move forward to what?
With your education
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yeah, see that's where you fall way short on your strategic going forward plan.

it's one thing being wrong. it's even worse being elitist and wrong.
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move forward to what?
More pigshit. That is all you will ever get from this fucking clown.
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Because if a building falls in freefall that means it was 100% positively controlled demolition. Is that what the idiot person is saying?
Controlled demolitions
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More pigshit. That is all you will ever get from this fucking clown.
of course. it was a silly attempt at a trap to begin with.

oh, let's all come together on common ground so i can school all y'all.


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we've got real worldwide concerns going into 2014, see fukashima, but op still clings to wtc7. why? just to be right.

let's all gather round and get educated by a conspiracy nutter while we're getting dosed with radioactivity from the fuka nightmare.

makes fucking sense.
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says who? The building burned for hours, they said fuck it just pull the guys out of there. It is not worth the risk after losing so many people already today.
This is like bitching about what kind of tires were on the car JFK was riding in the day he was shot and arguing over that.
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yeah, see that's where you fall way short on your strategic going forward plan.

it's one thing being wrong. it's even worse being elitist and wrong.
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yeah, see that's where you fall way short on your strategic going forward plan.

it's one thing being wrong. it's even worse being elitist and wrong.
I'll confess, I'm preparing for the usual debates with relatives over Christmas, I want to see what you guys throw at me so I'll have the answers ready

Please continue
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no it did not fall at freefall.
Uh hello... even NIST admits free fall now...

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says who? The building burned for hours, they said fuck it just pull the guys out of there. It is not worth the risk after losing so many people already today.
This is like bitching about what kind of tires were on the car JFK was riding in the day he was shot and arguing over that.
That is close to the truth. Building 7 had a huge amount of damage done to one side and it was beginning to lean. Firefighters were talking back and forth about their fear of the building falling so the dicision to "pull" the firefighters out was made.
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Uh hello... even NIST admits free fall now...

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This is why I expected some of the Official Story people to have joined us with at least that belief
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:42 PM   #49
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I'll confess, I'm preparing for the usual debates with relatives over Christmas, I want to see what you guys throw at me so I'll have the answers ready

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Hahahaha man I feel for your family. Them dreading having to endure you over the holidays and the annoying bullshit they're going to have to put up with as a captive audience of real people instead of the lonely soapbox mutterings thrown into a forum where you're not wanted that you have to generally rely on for attention.
Man.. poor folk. And you getting super excited about your chance to parade your delusions in the flesh and relishing in sitting in the topic like a stagnant fart while everyone else is trying to eat with one or two trying to politely spar after a few drinks with the crazy cousin/uncle as it's the only way to glean some enjoyment out of the unfortunate situation.
lol PLANNING the family Christmas conversation.. What a sad, sad, lonely, pathetic ghost of a life.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:43 PM   #50
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That is close to the truth. Building 7 had a huge amount of damage done to one side and it was beginning to lean. Firefighters were talking back and forth about their fear of the building falling so the dicision to "pull" the firefighters out was made.
Uh hello... there were no firefighters in the building to "pull" for hours before the collapse...

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