Are we all agreed that WTC7 fell in freefall? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

sperbonzo · 12-06-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

libertarians never miss an opportunity to spout their *anti-everthing and everyone not a libertarian* rhetoric.

no. It's just that the reason I became a libertarian is that I realized that I myself was defending things that I did not actually believe in, simply to blindly support one "tribe" over the other, (and the tribe changed a couple of times over my life), rather than stick with the things I knew were correct no matter which tribe espoused them. I feel that it's important to try to get people to think about what they REALLY believe and want in the world, rather than blindly play out this "our tribe vs the other tribe" mentality.

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EonBlue · 12-06-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

The correct substitution would be to add the word 'down' after the words 'pull it'

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it down.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Nonsense.

Wind-whipped Superior wildfire grows to 2,100 acres as firefighters pulled

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Firefighters were pulled off the line at the West Mullan fire Wednesday, as winds blew out the flame front and made conditions dangerous for direct attack.

dyna mo · 12-06-2013, 08:25 AM

those aren't mutually exclusive. lolz

dyna mo · 12-06-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

no. It's just that the reason I became a libertarian is that I realized that I myself was defending things that I did not actually believe in, simply to blindly support one "tribe" over the other, (and the tribe changed a couple of times over my life), rather than stick with the things I knew were correct no matter which tribe espoused them. I feel that it's important to try to get people to think about what they REALLY believe and want in the world, rather than blindly play out this "our tribe vs the other tribe" mentality.

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but that's not what happened here nor what i was referring.

dude posted this:

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

There are people who still believe the government's version of events? Wow, talk about gullible idiots...

your libertarian retort to that:

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

....and yet you want to give that same government control over your money, your healthcare, your education, the way you do business, etc, etc, etc, etc..... (i.e. most aspects of your life), and trust them to do all those things better than you can, without being self serving, corrupt, incompetent, having hidden agendas, etc....

Interesting dichotomy ....

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biskoppen · 12-06-2013, 09:44 AM

When a lie is big enough people will believe it..

Dirty Dane · 12-08-2013, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

If there's no resistance underneath, but WTC7 would have had resistance, this is why 1000's of Architects and Engineers are on the case

Same claim was made on the other buildings. But if you watch videos carefully, the debris at freefall outside the buildings falling core also fell faster. That's why no serious architects or engineers no longer are on the case.

JFK · 12-08-2013, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Uh hello... even NIST admits free fall now...

:D

NIST ?

8pt-buck · 12-08-2013, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

The conspiracy is simple. The Gubment new it was going to happen and let it happen. Thats it. they did not blow shit up.

Did it before and got away with it then did it again and will repeat it at least once more in the future.

As with operation Ajax in 1953
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php

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Originally Posted by JFK

NIST ?

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi.../faqs_wtc7.cfm

wehateporn · 12-08-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Same claim was made on the other buildings. But if you watch videos carefully, the debris at freefall outside the buildings falling core also fell faster.

Freefall is not about speed, it's about acceleration, so just because some debris is falling faster does not imply that the building did not fall at freefall. The debris started falling first, though it had the same freefall acceleration it had been falling for longer so had reached a higher speed, that's what you're seeing.

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

That's why no serious architects or engineers no longer are on the case.

There are thousands on the case, the number is growing every day. You would need to back up such a statement with a source otherwise people will think you've simply made it up.

wehateporn · 12-08-2013, 08:36 AM

Just because firefighters can be 'pulled' does not mean that buildings are not also 'pulled', if you listen to Silverstein it's clear he was talking about the building, otherwise he would have said 'Pull Them' NOT 'Pull It'

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Nonsense.

Wind-whipped Superior wildfire grows to 2,100 acres as firefighters pulled

BFT3K · 12-08-2013, 07:21 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-ne...r-in-shanghai/

wehateporn · 12-08-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

http://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-ne...r-in-shanghai/

Why did it not disintegrate into fine dust?

mineistaken · 12-08-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Richard - curious about your thoughts on this:

This is too much explaining, imho

When I watched that video by Silverstein and when he said "they decided to pull" I without a doubt thought he was talking about pulling firefighting operation (because they thought they may not contain in + they did not want to lose more people).
Or is it only me who clearly understood that? Maybe its because I am not native English speaker and native speakers know other meanings, but for me it was clear that he was talking about pulling the firefighting operation.

wehateporn · 12-09-2013, 02:53 PM

huey · 12-09-2013, 04:17 PM

Now that's a fire. https://youtube.com/watch?v=th2bnG_7UyY

OneHungLo · 12-09-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

That is close to the truth. Building 7 had a huge amount of damage done to one side and it was beginning to lean. Firefighters were talking back and forth about their fear of the building falling so the dicision to "pull" the firefighters out was made.

this plus the fact there was not a single blasting cap or wire found.

PS wehateporn is a fucking weirdo.

baddog · 12-09-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

And what deception was going on there?

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