I rejected a WHALE AFFILIATE for wanting to do malware

[Far-L]

Apparently he is already hooked up with another program... wonder which one took the business.

Thanks to everyone that put a red flag up for us btw...

[vdbucks]

I think I know who you're talking about and if I'm right then we also rejected the same...

[Axeman]

Kudos! Wouldn't expect anything less from you Far-L.

[Matyko]

details please, i am curious

[iwantchixx]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I think I know who you're talking about and if I'm right then we also rejected the same...

I just had that "no" feeling about him.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

I just had that "no" feeling about him.

I'm just glad we got outside info and didn't end up being ignorant on the matter heh...

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Matyko

details please, i am curious

Pretty easy to sleuth where the lead came from...

Wish I could share the skype text, just priceless.

[Seth Manson]

Plenty of other fat affiliates to choose from.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Plenty of other fat affiliates to choose from.

So I have heard...

Now if I could just figure out where they all are and why they are selling some program that is running off the rails instead of going full steam ahead with us I would be all set.

[AdultKing]

malware or adware ?

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

malware or adware ?

word we got was Malware

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

word we got was Malware

If that's the case there is no other industry eating itself like this one.

Kudos to all you who rejected this proposal.

[DVTimes]

good to know

[Roald]

Why not share some more info?

[Love Sex]

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/

http://www.microsoft.com/security/po...c/default.aspx

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

there is no other industry eating itself like this one.

Pfff, except all of them. There is way more garbage in mainstream, the only difference is most mainstream products can be marketed to all genders and orientations and many to minors, vastly increasing the consumer base and besides can be advertised on much larger networks.

I'm not supporting malware I'm just saying its not an industry problem.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Apparently he is already hooked up with another program... wonder which one took the business.

Thanks to everyone that put a red flag up for us btw...

Please PM me your mailing address and I will send you a gold star and a pat on the back.
Do you also need a hug?

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Please PM me your mailing address and I will send you a gold star and a pat on the back.
Do you also need a hug?

Indeed.

Name names or keep it to yourself.

[freecartoonporn]

what do you mean by whale ?
in 2013

[lagwagon]

Is this the $5-10K per week thread guy? I emailed him for the details. What I got back was too fishy for me.

[American Psycho]

yeah it was that guy the guy who was like five to ten thousand a week

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by lagwagon

Is this the $5-10K per week thread guy? I emailed him for the details. What I got back was too fishy for me.

Did it involve Russian programmers, putting code on your site, and not asking any questions?

[Robbie]

I wrote him when I saw his post.

I read his reply (which was very courteous and businesslike) and then simply deleted the email. The second I saw the word "Pop under" I stopped reading and hit delete.
Never even got around to the malware part.

Maybe some of those big generic paysites can do that kind of thing.
But it wasn't for me.

The people who come to claudia-marie.com are her fans. No way I was even gonna do a popunder on them, much less malware.

Her site had the traffic that he is looking for. But I have no interest in hurting us for 10 grand a week.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by The Dawg

Indeed.

Name names or keep it to yourself.

I would consider it if you asked politely, but when you put it like that then why should I do you the favor?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I wrote him when I saw his post.

I read his reply (which was very courteous and businesslike) and then simply deleted the email. The second I saw the word "Pop under" I stopped reading and hit delete.
Never even got around to the malware part.

Maybe some of those big generic paysites can do that kind of thing.
But it wasn't for me.

The people who come to claudia-marie.com are her fans. No way I was even gonna do a popunder on them, much less malware.

Her site had the traffic that he is looking for. But I have no interest in hurting us for 10 grand a week.

While I am not specifically anti-popunder, I agree it is always a smart move to protect your brand. Every big program I know that went down that road goes down hill quickly from taking that path.

[Roald]

AH the popunder guy. Rejected him based on the pops already.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Roald

AH the popunder guy. Rejected him based on the pops already.

Sounds like he found a lot of doors getting slammed closed in his face. But that just begs the question... which program felt desperate enough to take him up on it?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by BareBacked

Please PM me your mailing address and I will send you a gold star and a pat on the back.
Do you also need a hug?

Can you spare me the hug and just send a fuzzy pink Attaboy instead?

[The Porn Nerd]

Yes, saw the email and did what Robbie did: stopped reading when I saw the words POP UNDER. I fucking HATE pop UPs, UNDERs, SIDEWAYs, whatever.

<Mini-rant> when i go to a tube site or sometimes now a TGP and login to the Upload area I get pop-ups, just like some fucking surfer. C'mon people, do you have to mind rape your business partners with pop-ups, too? </mini-rant>

I see pop-ups on paysites and I just scratch my head. Even if the pop-up is another paysite it's fucking annoying.

[Robbie]

You shoulda saw the pop up hell of MaxCash and ARS back in the 1990's.
Back then they would hit you with so many popups on their paysites that it would actually use up all your computers resources and you would have to do a hard reboot.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You shoulda saw the pop up hell of MaxCash and ARS back in the 1990's.
Back then they would hit you with so many popups on their paysites that it would actually use up all your computers resources and you would have to do a hard reboot.

Yep I remember back when the popups had popups. We called it a "pornado"

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Yep I remember back when the popups had popups. We called it a "pornado"

Great term, apropos...

And both those and others were highly revered brick shithouse programs to affiliates while consumers felt the devastating effects of that Cat 5 Pornado

[Just Alex]

Who didn't see that one coming? first he was looking to buy approved traffic broker accounts, then pop-unders

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

what do you mean by whale ?
in 2013

300lbs or more

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Who didn't see that one coming? first he was looking to buy approved traffic broker accounts, then pop-unders

I missed that. Definitely pays to read more closely but it was good for a laugh.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Great term, apropos...

And both those and others were highly revered brick shithouse programs to affiliates while consumers felt the devastating effects of that Cat 5 Pornado

I refused to promote either one until they gave me a special login with "clean" codes.

After that we made great money with them. But they still didn't release the "clean" codes for another year to other affiliates.

Their entire business model back then was based on selling popups. And the funny thing was that they were basically writing checks to each other! MaxCash paysites would pop up a thousand ARS sites, and ARS paysites popped up a thousand MaxCash sites. lol

I wouldn't run their shit on our TGP's.
Matter of fact for many years I had "No Popup, No Blindlinks, No Bullshit" as the tag line on my TGP at shavedgoat.com ... all from my disgust at that business practice.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Did it involve Russian programmers, putting code on your site, and not asking any questions?

What's the worst that could happen?!

[javbucks]

You did the right thing

[Aka_Bluey]

Originally Posted by lagwagon

Is this the $5-10K per week thread guy? I emailed him for the details. What I got back was too fishy for me.

Would you have a link to that thread, i can not find it for some reason?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

300lbs or more

well, that's bigger than a breadbox

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Did it involve Russian programmers, putting code on your site, and not asking any questions?

It pays to be leery of Russian programmers, this is true.

[American Psycho]

was the code.
Mal or adware?

Its a fairly important detail.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by American Psycho

was the code.
Mal or adware?

Its a fairly important detail.

I guess since some people consider those two things one and the same while others see fine shades of difference and grey areas, and others see it black and white - where do you draw the line?

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Far-L

I guess since some people consider those two things one and the same while others see fine shades of difference and grey areas, and others see it black and white - where do you draw the line?

Well Malware is actually infecting a users machine with malicious code.

Any idea what the pop-under would do ?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Well Malware is actually infecting a users machine with malicious code.

Any idea what the pop-under would do ?

Unfortunately asking that question was the question that could not be asked.

While adware is perhaps a reasonably benign form of malware, it still is defined by a large percentage of what would describe "malware" which is really sort of a broad and generic catchall term anyway. So, I am not going to split hairs over it which is why I am asking how others would define it.

Regardless, the idea that we would put any code on our site without being able to vet it out, or even ask questions, just be happy with the sign-ups, was enough of a red flag for me.

Oh yeah... and I asked if he was malware guy and he said yes.

So I guess I had my reasons to be cautious...

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Unfortunately asking that question was the question that could not be asked.

In that case staying away was the right thing to do.

[slavdogg]

Maxcash and ARS exit pops were not that bad.
We were ARS' #1 affiliate for years, i knew the exit chain pretty well.

[Nickatilynx]

and Robbie , mate...that means you left even more money on the table , just waiting to be picked up.

;)

[adendreams]

Who is doing the FBI fake blackmail - send greendot NOW or you go to jail scam???

that fucker needs to be dragged behind a horse

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

and Robbie , mate...that means you left even more money on the table , just waiting to be picked up.

;)

Nickatilynx and Slavdogg weighing in? Hold on, wait a second, what board is this again?

Nickatilynx, never heard back from you but hit me up if you still need anything