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Old 11-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #1
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Humans do NOT come from Earth ? sunburn, bad backs and pain during labour prove it, expert claims

- A U.S. ecologist says conditions such as bad backs and sunburn suggest humans did not evolve alongside other life on Earth

- In a new book, Dr Ellis Silver says aliens put humans our planet as recently as tens of thousands of years ago

- He suggests the Earth might be a prison planet, since humans seem to be a naturally violent species and are here until we learn to behave ourselves



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"A U.S. ecologist has claimed that humans are not from Earth but were put on the planet by aliens tens of thousands of years ago.

Dr Ellis Silver points to a number of physiological features to make his case for why humans did not evolve alongside other life on Earth, in his new book.

They range from humans suffering from bad backs - which he suggests is because we evolved in a world with lower gravity ? to getting too easily sunburned and having difficulty giving birth.

Dr Ellis says that while the planet meets humans? needs for the most part, it does not perhaps serve the species? interests as well as the aliens who dropped us off imagined.

In his book, HUMANS ARE NOT FROM EARTH: A SCIENTIFIC EVALUATION OF THE EVIDENCE, the ecologist writes the human race has defects that mark it of being ?not of this world?.

?Mankind is supposedly the most highly developed species on the planet, yet is surprisingly unsuited and ill-equipped for Earth's environment: harmed by sunlight, a strong dislike for naturally occurring foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease, and more,? he told Yahoo.

Dr Ellis says that humans might suffer from bad backs because they evolved on a world with lower gravity.

He also says that it is strange that babies? heads are so large and make it difficult for women to give birth, which can result in fatalities of the mother and infant.

No other native species on this planet has this problem, he says.

He also believes humans are not designed to be as exposed to the sun as they are on Earth, as they cannot sunbathe for more than a week or two ? unlike a lizard ? and cannot be exposed to the sun every day without problems.

Dr Ellis also claims humans are always ill and this might be because our body clocks have evolved to expects a 25 hour day, as proven by sleep researchers.

?This is not a modern condition; the same factors can be traced all the way back through mankind's history on Earth,? he says.

He suggests that Neanderthals such as homo erectus were crossbred with another species, perhaps from Alpha Centauri, which is the closest star system to our solar system, some 4.37 light years away from the sun.

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He clearly forgot about black people.
Maybe black people are the natives
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Can we please ban this guy. His idiocy is getting ridiculous. He makes the most anti-science posts I have ever seen here.
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They range from humans suffering from bad backs - which he suggests is because we evolved in a world with lower gravity

Couldn't have anything to do with the huge beer guts that are all the rage in the Western world, or the fact the average person spends more time sitting on his ass staring into a screen per day than he spends exercising in a month nor any number of other causes of back pain - has to be aliens, as always.
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Can we please ban this guy. His idiocy is getting ridiculous. He makes the most anti-science posts I have ever seen here.
Anti-2013 Human Science? Are we allowed to consider the possibility of the more advanced science of a far more intelligent species who's existed for over 100,000 years?

Someone should really send Dr Ellis Silver a copy of Avatar to help him expand his theory, give him a push in the right direction.
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just another loser trying to sell a book..yawn.
and badly i like the bit where there is no animal miscarriages
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and badly i like the bit where there is no animal miscarriages
I like the lizard bit. I suppose that means every animal that cannot take sun for two weeks (almost all of them) is also alien. Once again, reptiles rule all!
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What exactly are we supposed to do with such information of aliens among us?

Also, if the aliens are amongst us or are monitoring us, don't you think they would eliminate you and the other tin-foilers for exposing their evil plan?

While you're at it, please consider and explain this:

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Have we been visited by extraterrestrial beings from elsewhere in the universe?

First, I would like to eliminate the idea that we have been visited by beings located outside our own galaxy. Andromeda, the nearest galaxy to the Milky Way is 2 million light years distant. This means that if there were aliens in Andromeda, it would take them longer than 2 million years to come to earth.

Another problem is why they would want to visit our galaxy.

The Andromeda galaxy is considerably larger than our galaxy. If life were common in the universe, there should be many times more of it in Andromeda, than in our wimpy galaxy. Why would they even want to visit us?

A third problem for potential aliens is detecting us. We have been sending radio waves for less than 100 years. It will be another 2 million years before those signals reach our closest neighboring galaxy. The light (and other electromagnetic signals) that they now see represent the way the earth looked 2 million years ago. Beings in other galaxies would have no way of knowing that advanced life forms existed in our galaxy.
For bonus points, explain how we will get to the aliens (either to communicate or fight back)?

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Intersteller Travel

Obviously, our current rocket technology is incapable of providing the speed needed to make interstellar travel realistic.

Matter/anti-matter engines might provide the power to accelerate near the speed of light. However, there is no way to contain or generate large amounts of anti-matter. The only way that we have produced anti-matter is through extremely large (miles across) particle accelerators. However, the meager few anti-matter particles generated are rapidly destroyed through interactions with ordinary matter.

Nuclear power would provide a long-lived fuel supply for interstellar travel. Even so, such fuel would last only tens of years before being spent. Fusion power is yet to be harnessed, but, likewise, fuel would eventually run out. According to Frank Drake, "To send a spacecraft the size of a small airliner at one-tenth the speed of light requires as much energy as the US now produces in more than a hundred years."3 In fact, the minimum amount of fuel required for such a spacecraft is 100 tons (assuming that a fusion reactor converts mass into kinetic energy at 100% efficiency).4 This does not sound practical to me!

Assuming that fuel and propulsion problems could be eventually solved, there are other, more serious, problems to contend with. Traveling near the speed of light is no simple problem. Running into small particles (like the size of a grain of sand) would punch major holes in any spacecraft, due to the high speed of impact.

According to Frank Drake, "At relativistic speeds, even a collision with a particle of a few grams results in something close in energy to a nuclear bomb blast. Not good news for the space travelers."

A major biological problem seldom mentioned in the press is the blue shifting of the light from ordinary stars when traveling near the speed of light. The Doppler effect of traveling at such speeds would blue shift ordinary visible light all the way to the wavelength of gamma and x-rays. Shielding gamma rays is next to impossible (they can even travel through many feet of solid metal). When they do strike matter (like space traveler's bodies), the results are devastating. This problem alone might restrict the speed of space travel to a small fraction of the speed of light.

Other significant problems would be involved in trying to keep biological organisms alive for many years of space travel. The lack of gravity would likely be fatal within a couple years (determined from the effects of prolonged weightlessness among the astronauts of the Space Station). Generating gravity would be possible through spinning, but might severely restrict the design of propulsion systems.

In addition, it would be impossible to carry enough food and water for such a trip. Two solutions are possible - though not within the technology that we currently possess. One solution is to recycle all carbon and water. This process would have to involve capturing all biological waste (and dead bodies) and converting it back into food and water (doesn't sound appetizing, does it?).

The idea of making a self-contained bio-habitat is appealing, but impractical, due to the large amount of space required. A recent attempt to do this on earth was a miserable failure, since the designers failed to provide enough space to support all members of the small crew. A second possible solution to the food problem would be to put the travelers into suspended animation. Currently, we have no idea how to do this, and it does not seem possible to do so.
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Yeah you can, just go do it in your star trek nerd forum --------->

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I was abducted by aliens and they didn't anally probe me so I requested it. They told me they don't do that...never have, so clearly all those other people are lying bastards!

Anyway, I asked them about this backache proof and they pointed out that humans evolved to reproduce as soon as sexually mature...raise the offspring to the point of self-sufficiency and then most would be dead by 35 (which was actually old age 10,000 years ago.

Modern man has artificially extended the human lifespan way beyond the original intent and that is why the aches and pains of the aging body. Simple as that.
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I was abducted by aliens and they didn't anally probe me so I requested it. They told me they don't do that...never have, so clearly all those other people are lying bastards!

Anyway, I asked them about this backache proof and they pointed out that humans evolved to reproduce as soon as sexually mature...raise the offspring to the point of self-sufficiency and then most would be dead by 35 (which was actually old age 10,000 years ago.

Modern man has artificially extended the human lifespan way beyond the original intent and that is why the aches and pains of the aging body. Simple as that.
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Can we please ban this guy. His idiocy is getting ridiculous. He makes the most anti-science posts I have ever seen here.

There are a hell of a lot more people to ban, for a lot better reasons.
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So he just finished the X-Files and now writes this...
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Are we allowed to consider the possibility of the more advanced science of a far more intelligent species who's existed for over 100,000 years?
I'd be utterly shocked if this wasn't the case. Depressed too..I mean if humans are the most advanced culture in the entire universe..wow, what a shithole universe this is

But humans planted on earth 10,000 years ago? Quacka please.

"a strong dislike for naturally occurring foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease" - This is goofy on so many levels. gee, could that possibly be because we're bombarded with advertising for shitty food that brings about chronic disease like type-2 diabetes? Also, indigenous groups don't seem to be desperately longing for Frosted Flakes and Hot Pockets.

My biologist wife (who absolutely believes we've been visited by ET's) points out the extreme pain of childbirth could be explained by the hips narrowing rapidly as we became upright. Certainly not as exciting as a bunch of ET's dropping us off here, but yeah.

I don't rule out the possibility of some sort of extraterrestrial 'seeding' or hybridization at some point...there's a lot of unexplained shit in this world, BUT, as Black Crayon said, this guy is..
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Even I have better theories than the guy but nice to see he's exploring outside the usual limits

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I'd be utterly shocked if this wasn't the case. Depressed too..I mean if humans are the most advanced culture in the entire universe..wow, what a shithole universe this is

But humans planted on earth 10,000 years ago? Quacka please.

"a strong dislike for naturally occurring foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease" - This is goofy on so many levels. gee, could that possibly be because we're bombarded with advertising for shitty food that brings about chronic disease like type-2 diabetes? Also, indigenous groups don't seem to be desperately longing for Frosted Flakes and Hot Pockets.

My biologist wife (who absolutely believes we've been visited by ET's) points out the extreme pain of childbirth could be explained by the hips narrowing rapidly as we became upright. Certainly not as exciting as a bunch of ET's dropping us off here, but yeah.

I don't rule out the possibility of some sort of extraterrestrial 'seeding' or hybridization at some point...there's a lot of unexplained shit in this world, BUT, as Black Crayon said, this guy is..
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Couldn't have anything to do with the huge beer guts that are all the rage in the Western world, or the fact the average person spends more time sitting on his ass staring into a screen per day than he spends exercising in a month nor any number of other causes of back pain - has to be aliens, as always.
Practically everything I was about to type...
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Actual PROOF We Bred With Extraterrestrial Life:

Actual PROOF We Bred With Extraterrestrial Life:

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haha, this is stage two of paranoid delusions.

1st you believe the government is taking over
2nd you believe aliens exist
3rd you go to the mental hospital.

Goodluck wehateporn, you are rapidly progressing well.
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The differences I see between Johnny Clips & Wehateporn

The way they deal with dissent & insults is worlds different. JC was a full-on asshole, while WHP isn't. In other words, WHP's nowhere near as emotionally/intellectually invested in the things he posts.

Which leads to....

It really seemed like JC really believed the stuff he was posting (ie the Lizard People). imo, WHP clearly doesn't necessarily believe the things he posts...it's more a thing of putting different stuff out there for discussion.
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