Magnetron

It's just simpler to say Pro GOP .

Been a long time since they looked out for anyone other than themselves.

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Possible, but even when he was winning 61% of the vote on Tuesday, exit polls had him still losing by 6 points to Clinton in NJ. Not great.

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Did you read what I wrote? No "I" don't have a issue with a Republican that is willing to work with Obama, but your right wing blowhards do. The fanatic tea party was calling him a traitor and a whole list of names when he spoke up about how well Obama did in meeting his states needs after Sandy.

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Ahahah but I doubt it. Me and he agree on most of these things...

I found Canadian politics boring until recently. American politics ARE much more fun.

I like Rachel Maddow.

I like RON Paul.

Rand Paul has always been a bitch in my eyes.

But what he's "done" isn't plagiarism. He's just overly relied too much on his clueless idiot speechwriters.

After the first word-for-word description borrowed from the wikipedia entry, he should have fired those sorry-ass so-called writers.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me?

Yeah, it looks like the same lazy idiots made the same lazy idiot mistake of copy-pasting from wikipedia. Big-whoop.

You can't blame Paul other than bad management.

Oh and if anyone brings up the Biden "plagiarism" stuff, remember that PR firms work for both parties and can have lazy-ass idiots working for them too, from country to country...

In the end it doesn't matter. Paul is a sock-puppet, just there to make it look like a "competitive" race. Christie is going to be the GOP goto guy. Unless, of course, he switches like a few have done lately, and becomes a Democrat...

In a way, US politics is a lot easier, because of the bullshit two-party system, than Canadian politics and the mishmash fun of Parliamentary "drama".

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Rand Paul is nearly as nuts as dear old dad...but yes I can see a path to the nomination for him despite the copy cat shit...Christie is going to get torn a new asshole in the primaries by the far right

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Vendzilla

Wow, you say that like the democrats have a clean slate

The first republican president was Lincoln "emancipation proclamation" and the Southern Democrats had the KKK, wasn't that long ago when a KKK member was a democrat senator named Robert Byrd.

Gay Rights? Ever hear of the log cabin republicans, or in the late 1970s Ronald Reagan wrote a response in his LA Herald-Examiner column to the organization backing the California Briggs Initiative, stating that he opposed the proposed ban on gay public school teachers. Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, wrote an article in the New York Times where she recalled her father talking about Rock Hudson's homosexuality in an accepting and tolerant manner.

Anti Science? Because they seem to be more religious as a whole, many republicans believe in evolution, if that's where you're going.

Anti - Poor? You mean like the almost 21 million people out of work because of an administration that has other things on it's agenda and seems to have no answer for those poor people unemployed?

Anti-abortion, This is a talking point I don't share with the republicans, But there are other things as well.

It seems you are judging the republicans as a whole and they are all the same, sort of like how the KKK treats black people!

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think about that

Vendzilla

I applaud Christie for working with a democratic president, I'm not a republican, but you sure like to pigeon hole me as one. They thought he was a traitor because he worked with Obama during hurricane Sandy and they believe that's what killed Romney's chances, where was Romney?

I think you have a problem with Christie because he is a threat to the liberals because he is a moderate republican.

Christie's appeal is that he's about getting the job done, his record shows just that and no one can argue with that.

and for the record, I have no wings

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think about that

Robbie

Funny to watch political opponents try to pick the other "sides" nominee.

I remember just a couple of years ago...all the Dems were on t.v. before the campaign saying that Mitt Romney was the only moderate Republican left in the race and the only hope for Republicans was that he could beat Gingrich and/or Santorum.

Then the minute he did win the nomination....they turned on him like Dobermans. LOL!

They did the same thing to McCain in 2008. Before the election he was the "maverick" and they loved him! Then they turned on him.
And now...they love him again. He's the "voice of reason"

They'll do the same thing to Christie.
Christie is a likeable guy for sure. But he's also the guy who has done everything in his power to stop gay marriage in New Jersey. He panders just as much to the religious right as every other Republican politician.

It's a shame that the majority of people are convinced they can only choose between "bad" and "worse" (depending on which "Side" you are on).

I hope Gary Johnson runs again. And I hope that for once...people will listen to what he says he wants to do and not just follow the Dem VS Repub like it's some kind of sporting event.

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dyna mo

actually, it seems that, like **********, you like opinions on american politics more than american politics. rachel maddow is an enjoyable show but, well, it's not c-span, which is direct coverage of the essence of american politics today, not nbc news.

but the op has already shown a slanted and misguided view of american politics as it is, especially texas politics.

anyhoo, i couldn't care less about rand paul and plagiarism. i grew up in ron paul's congressional district back in the 70s, in fact, i'm very familiar with the paul family's political nonsense, which, back to my point, pales in comparison to crack smoking canadian mayor of the moment.

either way, it's an observation on the op, tons of fodder for canadian political threads he could start in the same tone as ALL the ones he starts re: american bs politics.

looky_lou

I am sure Rand Paul will be run out of politics for his borrowing a few sentences.

Just like Manwin and others have been run out of the adult online business for borrowing a few videos.

So many of you are ready to hang Rand Paul, yet you kiss the asses of people in this business that steal from you every day. Way to keep your eye on the ball guys!

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actually that isn't too bad considering Obama beat Romney by 17 points in NJ and we are still years away from the next presidential election.

If he does well as governor between now and then he could close that gap. He may not win the state, but just putting it in play could be a big deal.

MediaGuy

Well I do enjoy editorials on US politics, whether by US or international commentators. I "enjoy" them but I don't agree with most of them regardless of partisanship. I do think that what is usually put down as left-wing/socialistic/blablah is still more sensical than the right-wing I-still-don't-know-who-runs-this-party blather of the new post-tea-party GOP.

Granted. But whether it's Hannity or Maddow (as an example of two who do and don't do their research btw), it's a hella lot more interesting than CSpan. It's great to watch full unspun verbiage from the particular party reps, but that is the raw material the idiot talking heads use for their "stories". And stories they are.

Entirely your point of view, but as to texas politics you'd have to be a little more specific...

I like Ron Paul. I agree with the rest, and I'm sure the major American political families are deeply enough implicated in crazy, eye-widening craziness they're due for some spectacular comeuppance.

Hm.. but why would his nationality prevent him from having an opinion on US drama/politcs? Most of us here don't seem to care about international politics to start with, let alone domestic politics. Someone from an outside culture might be able to provide some insight.

I don't know about ALL his american bs politics threads, but I wouldn't blame anyone for finding US gobspitting entertaining.

It's actuallly kinda like GFY, without the dirty werds...

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the election was supposed to be a competition, but with romney in the lead of the republican party they just had already pissed the opportunity away. you look at romney and what do you see you see everything the republican party shouldn't be in 2013 but when you look at obama you see a socially aware democrat or liberal and everything the democrats should be.

the election should have been about comparing oranges with oranges not oranges with bananas. the right needed to become more left, not more far over to the right.

crockett

LOL don't you just have a lot of wishful thinking.. I could care less about Christie running for office.. Unless he ran as a democrat he has zero chance in winning. The Republican Party is so divided by the fringe groups that they don't have a chance of winning the next election even if Jesus himself ran.. Hell they would even hate Jesus...

As far as pigeonholing you, I'm sorry but there is no need for me or anyone else to do that.. You do it all by your self with your constant rages about anything Obama does. It doesn't matter what he does, be it good or bad, you bitch and moan about it anyway.

Vendzilla

I understand the limits of your thinking, I just thought you would read more into it, guess not.
I'm against the president, the president is the leader of the Democratic party. That's all he ever sees, never working with the Republicans. You see him as the leader of the Democratic party as well and not the leader of the people of the US, therefore, anyone that speaks against him is a Republican in your limited vision. He has done what he wants to do, drive more separation in the American people than any other president in history.


And please, tell what he has done that's good, I'm still waiting to see that!!!

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think about that

crockett

I see exactly what you are there is nothing more to see. You endlessly bash Obama but never have a bad thing to say about the right. No matter what happens, it's alway Obama..

Can you even find a single topic that you started saying that you didn't like something anyone from the right did? Can you even find a single post where you said Obama did something right? You are a hater pure and simple and your hate is always directed at the same place. You are the fringe, the right wing talking heads play you like a puppet..

SuckOnThis

You should be thrilled that the ACA now forces insurance companies to cover mental conditions.

MaDalton

i chuckled a little but decided to leave the reply to you...

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Vendzilla

Have you ever seen me starting a thread praising the GOP?

Leave your answer here........

I love when liberals have no answer but to call others names, haters, racist, whatever. You are just a shallow person that believes whatever the president says

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think about that

Vendzilla

Oh , you never did answer what he did that was good?

I'll make it hard, what did he do that effected me in a positive way?

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think about that

crockett

Umm yea sure you are obviously the pentacle of being moderate and center of the road.. I see you couldn't find a single topic where you bashed any single person from the right, like you do non stop with Obama. I also see you can't even utter out a single thing that Obama has done that you can agree with or say he did a good job on.

So now instead of coming up with a honest reply, to this question which I asked you two times before in two separate topic, yet once again you have to dodge it, with no answer.

Seriously dude your hate is going to eat you alive..

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2MuchMark

HAhahahaha.... geeze... do you realize that some of the things you said above are very very old? I am talking about modern republicans... and especially the current ones who are taking it up the ass by tea partiers.


And yes, Gay Rights! Let people marry who they want to marry and make the Michelle Bachmans of the US Shut the fuck up already and move on to more important things. Washington Post

Yeah, um, no not just evolution. Anti Global Warming. Anti Stem cell research, etc etc.

Wow are you freaking kidding me? How come I know more about this than you do? Jobs are increasing in the US by about 200,000 every month. Compare that to how many jobs were lost (up to 800,00 jobs lost per month under George W Bush)



The republican house cut $40 Billion from the food stamp program:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3957509.html

Not true. Some republicans in the past have done some good things. Richard Nixon started the EPA for example, and George W Bush declared 140,000 square miles of ocean as a park called the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument (or often Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Marine National Monument). So some republicans, even asshole republicans, can still do bits of good. Both are awesome things. I disagree with RON paul on a few things and he has some skeletons in his closet too but I wouldn't call him completely bad either.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Gary Johnson didn't even receive 1% of the vote in the 2012 Presidential Election, so good luck with that...



It would be interesting if the Libertarians, Green Party, and other people unhappy with the "two-party system", would spearhead a movement for proportional representation, so that instead of being a spoiler which ends up actually hurting the party they are more closely aligned with, and actually helping the party they are less like, they could have some representation, or join a coalition with the party they are more like, in order to get parts of their minority agenda considered (examples in the US would be Ross Perot hurting Bush and helping Clinton, and Ralph Nader hurting Al Gore and helping Bush Jr).

The current system is stacked against alternative candidates/parties, and makes third party challenges rather futile.



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Except the Libertarians are not "like" either party.

They are far more liberal than Democrats. And are far "less govt." than Republicans.

So a true Libertarian doesn't "hurt" either of the 2 monopoly parties at all. Sheep will be sheep and continue voting for the 2 parties that have done EVERYTHING wrong to this country in the last 100 years.

As for him only getting 1% of the vote in 2012...see the last sentence I wrote above.

People are scared of big changes. The govt. has us convinced that we can't live our daily lives without their "guidance".

The govt. (feds, state, county, city) feel that every dollar you earn is THEIRS. And they are nice enough to let you keep almost 50% of it by the time they all get done with you (including sales tax).

And they know BETTER than you how you should run your life.

That is what scares the hell out of them about true Libertarians: Any thought that people can pretty much run their own lives and that govt. is a necessary evil that should be kept as unobtrusive as possible gets them to screaming "Anarchy".

No, it's not "anarchy".
99% of the laws in place would still be in place.

But the drug laws would be gone.
Libertarians are pro-choice (no religious nutcases), pro science, pro stem cell research, the police would have their new "powers" cut way back.

In other words...people could have some of the personal freedoms back that this country is supposed to represent.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Seems like libertarians have utopia all figured out, they just can't figure out how to get libertarians elected as libertarians.

What I was suggesting was a way that might help your party get some representation, but you're always so contrarian that you thought I was arguing with you.

One problem with libertarians is that in addition to being highly argumentative, they seem content to bitch and moan, unable to come up with anything but lame brain strategies for trying to overtake the Republican party, who in the end, libertarians are most like, and are mostly being manipulated by.

Perhaps the Republican and Democratic parties invented the libertarian party to give the crackpots/extremists in both their parties something to do to keep them out of their hair, while continuing to render them impotent.

One thing is certain, libertarians are their own worst enemies.



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Whenever I saw Ron Paul start to make sense, he would continue talking and make sure I continued to think he was a crack pot.. I always said he sounded great in 10 second sound bites, but any longer and the looney came out..

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This will help make sense of Ron Paul:





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No...Rand Paul would not have been selected by the Republicans...even scandal free.

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Robbie

ADG, you're clueless about Libertarians and politics in general.

I've pointed out to you over and over that Libertarians are pro-choice for women, anti-drug war, anti-war, anti-religion, and even openly friendly to the adult industry.

And yet you continue to insult me by claiming that Libertarians are like Republicans.

No they aren't. And I ask you again...please show me the Republicans that have the same stance on the issues as I just listed.

You look like a fool every time you post that pic and/or spout the Democrat Party propaganda about Libertarians (because the Dems KNOW that Libertarians are far more liberal than their party will ever be)

I have to say that over the past few months you have lost my respect in a lot of ways. I have no idea why you would want to do that. But you have succeeded.
Congrats!

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Robbie

My favorite Ron Paul moment was when he got tricked into an "interview" with Sasha Cohen as "Bruno"

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Vendzilla

And yet you can't answer my question, Where have I ever praised the GOP?

And name something that Obama has done that has benefited my life?

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think about that

SuckOnThis

All that is true and well, but they are also against any type of social safety net, public education system, govt regulations, etc. How would you propose handling those issues?

Vendzilla

I agree with that, the GOP is a mess, I left the party after Bush wanted to go after Iraq. I thought is was crazy to go into Afghanistan after what happened when the Soviets tried and lost. We are not equipped for that kind of warfare

Have I ever supported anything Michelle Bachman has done, no!
10 republicans in the senate voted for EDNA


Global warming, brought to us by former VP Al Gore. Couple years ago he bought a beach front house, seems he has a lot of faith in it.

Well here's your mistake on this, that's just new jobs, it doesn't take into effect the amount of people entering the job force for the first time, growth of the job force

When Obama took office labor force was 154,526,000 7.8% unemployment 12,079,000 unemployed
End of September labor force was 155,559,000 7.2% unemployment 11,255,000 unemployed

So the labor force is 33,000 bigger
amount of unemployed people has decreased 807,000

Let's see, the stimulus bill was passed to create jobs, at 787 billion dollars, that's $975,216.85 per person.

I'm pretty good at math, You seem to base it all on a graph, you must love the pictures in the books!
Wow, can you even read, they voted for reforms, with the massive expansion of the program over the last 4 years, it needs it.


Yet you were grouping them as a whole
I rarely attack the Democrats, they are what they are. I go after the leadership, you know the guy that's suppose to represent the nation as a whole, not just his party.
And don't compare other president like it's ok because this guy did this, I don't give a shit, I can about what's going on now!

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think about that

Robbie

I voted for the Libertarian candidate in 2012. That was Gary Johnson.

1. Johnson on Social Security and Welfare ("social safety net" nope, he's not "against" it):

Raise the retirement age to 70 or 72. (Aug 2012)
A portion of Social Security ought to be privatized. (Aug 2012)
Replace the payroll tax with FairTax. (Feb 2012)
Impose gross income cap on welfare recipients. (Jul 2011)
Maintain federal Social Services Block Grant funding. (Sep 2001)
Maintain flexibility & funding levels for TANF block grants. (Sep 2001)

2.Johnson on education (and no, he is NOT "against" public education):

Public education system needs major reform. (Aug 2012)
Vouchers OK for church childcare & church schools. (Aug 2012)
$3,500 voucher for every K-12 student. (Aug 2012)
Vouchers are as constitutional as pre-school and day-care. (Aug 2012)
Competition would make our schools better. (Aug 2012)
I support evolution; but no federal involvement. (May 2012)

3. Johnson on "Govt. Regulations" (there is really no way to address that...he isn't "Against" govt. regs at all...he thinks that there are too many of them and they are intrusive):

Opposes Net Neutrality; no government regulation of Internet. (Jul 2011)
No compromise on clean air, but no cap-and-trade.

4. Johnson on "etc.":

I don't know what that means. You are basically saying he is "against" things when the reality is he is FOR freedom of the individual as much as possible.
Libertarianism is about getting the Federal govt. out of our lives as much as possible to enrich society...not hurt it.

Remember what Thomas Paine said: "Government, even in it's best state is a necessary evil; in it's worst state, an intolerable one"

That's kind of what I think too. Instead of the govt. being a gigantic monstrosity that runs our lives...it should be a small entity that serves our needs and doesn't spend one more penny than it absolutely has to in order to accomplish that.

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theking

A libertarian is not going to be elected President but even if he were to be elected...it would make little if any difference as the President has very little domestic power and cannot make law...so a Libertarian President and 535 Democrats and Republicans in the two houses of Congress means we will still have the same policies as we have now.

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Robbie

That's true.

I also voted for the Libertarian candidates in my state elections and local elections for that very reason.

If enough people get fed up and stop voting for Republicans and Democrats it WILL change over time.

I'm sure the Democrats were surprised when the "Whig Party" (4 Presidents were members of that party) came to power over them in the early 19th century as well.

And I'm sure that the Whig's themselves never thought that THEY would be gone.

Things can change. Right now the Democrats and Republicans have made laws that pretty much make it almost impossible for a third party candidate to get elected.
But IF a third party ever gets into the White House, then it will make that party viable to the sheeple and then Congress and the Senate will start getting them too.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Let me try this again:

So why are you against proportional representation? Seems like it would help the Libertarian cause.



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That is what I have always said..."government of the people...by the people...for the people. The key is "if enough people get fed up". An unengaged electorate gets the government they deserve.

Recently one poll showed the Congress with a 5% approval rating. To me this would indicate that 95% of those up for reelection will not be reelected but I suspect that the numbers will be closer to being reversed and 95% will be reelected.

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This is a great point. People often say they want change, but they really don't. Also, many people look at problems with the attitude of, "You are messing this up, not me."

So many people feel that congress sucks, but their actual congressman is good so many of these people will get reelected.

Add in that only about half of those who are eligible to vote actually do and it is no wonder why the same people keep getting elected. If you know that only half of those eligible will vote and you only need half of those votes to win you only have to convince about 26% of the people to vote for you and you win.

Robbie

I saw that poll...

The fucked up thing is this: They asked the people in the poll if they thought that the Congress and Senate should all be voted out, and people responded "Yes", BUT not THEIR Senators and Congressmen.

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Robbie

You really are being willfully ignorant.

You don't deserve an answer from me, but I'm generous and will give you one anyway.

The reason that no third party candidate got many votes is because the Republicans & Democrats are in control of the govt.
And in that role, they have passed legislation that makes it nearly impossible for a third party candidate to get elected.

It's pretty simple. They have rigged the system.

The only third party candidates that even get to be a blip on the radar are the ones with millions of dollars of their own money to waste. And I say "waste", because even if they spend all that money to get on the ballot...the 2 RULING parties won't allow them to be in the main Pres. debates on the major networks.

Most people don't even realize that they have any choice but the Republican and the Democrat.

But you just keep ignoring that and insulting me over and over in your snide little way that insinuates that you think you're smarter than I am.
You just look foolish to me.

Politicians are all crooks by the way.

IF the Libertarians ever do grow as a party and get into power...I'd give them less than a decade before they too would be corrupt and useless.

That's why I am for "one and done" term limits for EVERY position in govt.

Get those lifetime/career politicians OUT of our lives.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

If you read my post, I wasn't arguing with you. I was pointing out how proportional representation voting could help small parties like the Libertarian gain more power at every level of government.





Seriously, I'm not sure how proportional representation is incompatible with Libertarianism.

http://www.fairvote.org/

As far as your one-and-done idea, I respectfully disagree, since I don't think that is a solution in and of itself, but merely a reactionary response to symptoms of the problem.



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Robbie

ADG...you are the only one talking about "proportional representation" in this discussion. And you have sprinkled your posts with insulting pics and remarks.

Of course the "winner takes all" is bullshit. But that is something that the Republicans and Democrats in each state have set up.
I have already addressed that the two RULING parties have done everything in their power to KEEP power.

Don't be so dense. You keep harping about one tiny part of their scam. I'm talking about a bigger picture.

And no... one-term term limits are NOT a "reactionary" response to a "symptom" of a problem.
Lifetime politicians ARE the problem.

And people who keep voting for the same 2 parties over and over and expect something different to happen are also the problem.

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What would the Founding Fathers do?!?



So, if you mandate that elected officials serve only one term, and tell people that they can't vote for the party they like, even if they really like it better than what the Libertarians have to offer, then the Libertarians will come to power. Yeah, that makes sense.

We should apply your one-and-done theory to other aspects of society too. Who needs people with experience, or who have learned how to deal with complex budgets, projects, and problems? Let's just replace knowledgeable experienced people with new people every four years because, well, just because, and things are sure to get better.

I guess that I am not understanding how under the current rules, the Libertarian party is going to ever get close to power, when the best they can muster after 40+ years as a political party is 1% of the vote (and this is during a time of widespread discontent). The Libertarian party has fared pretty badly at every other level of elective government too.

Fair representation voting proposes a system that if implemented would almost certainly gain the Libertarian party some percentage of representation in Congress, then Libertarians could actually get elected and try to test out some of their slogans, and see what it's really like trying to operate government.

However, because I dare mocked your beloved Libertarian party for being ineffectual, you took great umbrage and therefore refuse to consider the concept that I advanced which would help the Libertarian party. That's what I meant about Libertarians often being their own worst enemy.

When I mock the Libertarian party, it is partly because many Libertarians whom I encounter appear to like to feel as if they are somehow pure and above the fray, and their ideas are so blindingly brilliant and obvious to themselves, that gosh darn it, if only 49% more of the sheeple that vote would just wake up, and give the Libertarians more than the 1% of the vote they currently reside at, all would be better overnight.

Running on widespread discontent with the status quo will only get you so far, then you have to have ideas that people will embrace, and frankly the Libertarian party platform is pretty short on viable solutions (isolationism, unchecked capitalism, barebones/minimal government, etc) - they're very much like their conservative cousins in the Tea Party (although I realize the two groups diverge in a big way regarding abortion, drugs, etc).

Tell me what you find objectionable about Proportional Representation presented in the following video:

How & Why Other Countries have Ended the 2-Party System:





http://www.fairvote.org/



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crockett

So this is the best you have? All this blowhard rambling and you can't come up with anything to show that you are nothing more than a simpleton hater.

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Vendzilla

So you can't answer my question I take it?

Typical liberal response is calling me a racist, or a hater when you have nothing.

Here's the question, can't be that hard, what has Obama done that has benefited me?

Or at least show me where I praised the GOP for something they did?

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think about that

ThunderBalls

According to you his first day in office he made it so you cannot sell cigarettes online anymore.

Here we are 6 years later and you're still crying about it.

sperbonzo

Amen Bro....



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Vendzilla

Oh there you are sweet pea, I was wondering where you were, internet go down in Colorado?

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

2MuchMark

If people are calling you racist....


I don't know you personally so I can't say for sure, but here's a few things that might have affected you:

Let's see he um, CAUGHT BIN LADEN for one...

Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years

Cut prescription drug cost for medicare recipients by 50%

Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in US history

Eliminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans and protect student borrowers

Increased funding for national parks and forests by 10%

Significantly expanded Pell grants, which help low-income students pay for college

Gave more money to companies involved in private space flight programs, helping companies like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic.

Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans

Signed financial reform law requiring lenders to verify applicants' credit history, income, and employment status

Signed financial reform law prohibiting banks from engaging in proprietary trading (trading the bank's own money to turn a profit, often in conflict with their customers' interests)

Signed financial reform law allowing shareholders of publicly traded companies to vote on executive pay

Reversed 'global gag rule', allowing US aid to go to organizations regardless of whether they provide abortions

Signed New START Treaty - nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia

Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers

Provided travel expenses to families of fallen soldiers to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB (PRETTY FUCKING COOL)

Reversed the policy of barring media coverage during the return of fallen soldiers to Dover Air Force Base. (And who put this law in in the first place? That Son of a bitch DUBYA).

Issued executive order to repeal Bush era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research (Why did Bush put this in place in the first place? Because he bent-over and took it up the ass by the Christian fucktards which he is still doing today btw)

and on and on and on.... You really need to stop complaining about this president of yours and help him out. Stop listening to Fox & Friends and get people you know to stop tuning it to fat fucks like Rush Limbaugh. By all means still read, watch and listen with a critical ear, but stop believing all the shit from the far right. They are insane.

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