What about all of the high school drop outs? No school is better than home school I take it?

High school sucked for me. It held me back in a big way. I "became" after high school. I'm not saying others should not experience it, simply saying it's not the end-all of a "good" person.

If you don't go to high school, you will be evil!

The "Celebrate Diversity" crowd will only celebrate your diversity as long as they agree with you.

If anyone would teach my kids and also post on gfy during the day, which should be time for schooling, I'd take my kid outa there in a heartbeat.

I never understood why people think having their kid around a bunch of other idiotic misguided spoiled little shits all day is a good thing.

or that would be the only social interaction they have

i think it's sheep-syndrome

Why is everyone assuming that home schooled children are only isolated to their parents beliefs and thoughts?? It's called CORRICULUM! Yes even home schooled people have these same requirements...

Homeschooling has requirements. They follow a curriculum, like you said. And homeschool students are required to be involved in a social activity with other kids of similar age.

I also wanted to mention… Have you guys ever been out in the country? One room school houses still exist. And while you may all think farmers are stupid rednecks that don't know anything, I have known enough farmers in my life to know that they are really no different than any city folk… Except that they are usually more compassionate to their fellow humans. ;-)

Bullshit.

Every child I've ever known who was home schooled had massive social issues.

We used to have a family next door to us who home schooled their three kids. The kids never played with the other kids, but were more interested in talking to adults and hanging out with them. It was really strange.

You can't tell me locking your kids up at school and never exposing them to a school environment isn't going to negatively affect kids - of course it is. Being in a school environment teaches kids how to exist in a large social group, not to mention all kind of after school events and activities that home schooled kids aren't in. Kids who are home schooled can't be in the school band or debate club or any other club because they don't go to the school.

Home schooling is horrible.

I was not home schooled. I grew up going through school systems in the US, South Africa, and the UK. After my A levels I went back to the US for university.

My passion is derived from a horror of those who would impose their will on others and use Government to enforce it. If someone else wants to raise their kids a certain way, I don't think you should be allowed to impose your views on them. I wouldn't want the government deciding that I can't teach my son to think for himself. I don't want some government bureaucrat controlled by some big labor boss deciding what my son is taught and how.

There is tons of independent research that shows there is a hell of a lot more wrong with government schools these days than with other methods of teaching, but regardless, my point is that if YOU want to send your kids to the government schools, you should have the freedom to do that, and if don't, I should have the same freedom.

As always, my passion is about freedom and tolerance.



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Actually, yes they can. They can participate in all of the clubs, teams, and even classes if they so wish. For example, let's say that the local high school has a class on welding but the kids parents do not know how to teach welding. He can go to the local high school to learn, right in class with all of the other kids.

You are basing your whole opinion on something without having a clue as to how it actually works.

What he said!!!

Home-school kids are outperforming public school kids in a big way and colleges are now snapping up all the home-school kids that they can get as they are successful college students.

Did you know that they don't teach cursive writing in public schools anymore? All of the private schooled and home-schooled kids still do.

There are still tests that the kids have to pass in order to prove their grade level etc......

OK, my 12 YO son is home-schooled at this time.
Florida virtual school has (FREE) online classes for all of the subjects in regular public school, but he can advance at his own pace. (Which is faster than the public school's pace)

He has a teacher for each class and does skype with them once a week and can text them to ask any questions or discuss problems he is having.
At this time he is on track to have 2 years of college credits by the time he graduates high school. (FREE)
I can pay for any classes that I want him to have from any other sources available to augment his learning.

It ain't yer mammy's home-schoolin' these days folks.

He also has 4 years of college pre-paid for via Florida Pre-paid college. (Been paying since he was born)

If they go to the school, it's not home schooling.

I've had lots of friends that home school their kids, and they seem to fall into two groups. One does their own thing quietly at home, while the second group does their own thing at home but also encourages group settings with field trips, etc.

My kid goes to the public school, and not once have I met a kid at a school event - choir, volleyball, band - that was home schooled. I don't like to discuss this on GFY, but my wife runs an entire youth sports league for our city. A few years back we had one kid who was home schooled, but he was a complete outcast - the kids didn't like him because they didn't have anything in common with each other... They don't share any of the same classes, teachers, schools, events, gym class, nothing at all. They don't share class trips, field trips, car pooling, etc. Kids are kids and they are very accepting, more so now than when I was a kid, but kids who are home schooled don't share the same experiances as kids that go to public schools.

and since the kids didn't like him, either did you?

no wonder you viewed the kid as an outcast, with that attitude.

Porn homeschooling:

http://demotivationalpost.com/motiva...-schooling.jpg

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many public schools are based around babysitting gang bangers :2 cents:

This is the key to the entire thing.

If the parents are good at teaching the kids and they give the kids a well-rounded education and they help the kids to socialize and have friends there is nothing wrong with it.

I have seen it go wrong. One of my friends home schooled his daughter until she was a sophomore in high school. He and his wife did a terrible job. Sure, she knows every word in the bible, but she can barely do math and in many subjects she is years behind. When she finally talked them into letting her go to public school she was so far behind that the school told them they needed to get her a tutor and likely have her go to summer school in order to catch up.

Add into this that she was so sheltered and her parents values were so hammered into her that as soon as she was in a public school she went crazy. She would sneak out, drink, smoke weed, have sex and got arrested.

One interesting moment was a few years ago right when all this started to happen I was over at his brother's house and he was there. He was telling us about his daughters problems and said, "I am just so worried because the devil has his hands on her." My friend, his brother, replied, "It isn't the devil, it is you being a shitty parent."

The poor girl ended up with an eating disorder and she ran away from home. Now she is 19 and she is going a lot better, but she will openly say that the sheltered, crazy life her parents pushed on her was the root of many of her issues.

freedom and tolerance to let parents warp and brainwash kids is going too far in my book...this thread is about religious indoctrination and not giving kids the chance to even be exposed to reality of the outside world. You can radically misconstrue my words all you want (for instance I didnt say anything about gov vs private schools) it just makes you look like a paranoid anti-gov conspiracy nut...one step above Wehateporn

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mWcGahJY9-...apocalypse.jpg

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Rochard,

I can tell you haven't been clicking links so many have posted in this thread. Respectfully, you're clueless about this one. Homeschooling is amazing in every way imaginable. Read the links. Read the studies. Do some Google searches. Go volunteer at your kid's school. Just observe what happens in junior high and high school. It will shatter your bubble. Don't base your opinion on one family you've met. It's simply not accurate.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xPCzRQpOFY...eyourchild.jpg

What could possibly go wrong with homeschooling?

Sandy Hook shooter...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/22/homeschooled-teen-who-killed-family-with-ar-15-plotted-walmart-mass-shooting/

Than there is this:

http://hsinvisiblechildren.org/category/sexual-abuse/

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Kids should not be home schooled if their parents can't pass an equivalency test of whatever grade they are teaching them. :2 cents:

Nothing wrong with homeschooling. It's the whack job religious nuts that twist their heads up.

If they graduated, they already passed that grade. Hello...

home schooling leads to school shootings

that's.. a new one. wow.

ADG,

Numerous serial killers were public schooled. Using your logic...

But it doesn't mean that they have a solid grasp of the material and are capable of teaching it.

My nephew "graduated" from high school, but he can barely read or write.

Gotta love public school. ;)

Doesn't mean they remember it :2 cents:

Many adults who graduated high school would flunk a high school math test

In all fairness his was a combination of the public school and his shitty mom who found it easier to just do his homework for him and then when he failed every class she refused to hold him back.

too bad he wasn't some token stereotype

then they would have learned him good

There is a reason his handle ends with "dream" - because that is his life.

No surprise there.

I could see home schooling in earlier grades as doable, simply because the subject matter is easier. But you would totally miss out on important socialization...

Later on in high school its highly unlikely that a parent would be qualified to teach all the advanced courses like AP calculus, english etc...

While I was not a fan of public schools I certainly would not have wanted to be home schooled. The only brainwashing I see going on in public school is the focus on everyone must go to college!

I can teach all of those things.

and does he just use google to find the answers for everything?

when your kids have to enter the real world and not donny's world will they be prepared for the social pressures and be ready to make the right choices or will this new world blow their mind and they'll want to try everything? i don't know how people can't see this.

Read the research.

hey, you might be a great teacher, i don't know. though you are posting on gfy during what should be school hours but how many parents are out there taking a day off or screwing around when the kid should be learning? also, what kind of people can afford to home school? either the very rich or the very poor. again your an exception as you make money in a non traditional way. its just not do-able for most as dual incomes are required to make it in todays world. typically you'll either end up with a housewife who has no real education or someone who is unemployed or someone who is very well off. one great thing about home school is the one on one attention, for sure. that can't be denied but its all based on who the parents are and how/what they teach. i doubt there is anyone checking homes to make sure the proper curriculum is being taught. how many home schooled kids are being sexually and physically abused and are being kept home to keep them quiet? i'm sure not the majority but you know its happening.



they might do better in the work world but what about their personal lives? all these studies focus on academics or what kind of position they went on to. not about if they were happy individuals who have realized who they are and what they want from life.

sorry, i don't have time to read it. i wish i did but who is doing the research? i've seen this happen time and time again in the church i was forced to go to until i was 16. these kids all went to public school but were in overly religious households and when they were able to be old enough to see what really goes on, they went apeshit. a few ended up jail, most were doing drugs and drinking, etc.

Why is any school system legal anymore? I mean, it's not like kids are actually receiving an education these days days.

I mean hell, muhfuhkas caint een tak er typ ryt anymo.


naa'meen?

I didn't know the kid at all, never met him.

All of the kids break down into social groups, and a lot them are based on what school they go to and also what age they are in. I see this constantly. My kid had a best friend who was a few years younger, and once they started going to different schools their friendship dropped. Other friends decided to go to a charter school, and most of them disappeared from our radar and was replaced by others.

Kids who do home schooling miss everything - the joys of messing with your friend's locker, gym class, prom, football games, homecoming... Even if they are able to take part in these events, they miss so much - the pep rally, the excitement about homecoming, the feeling in a school before the big football game on a Friday night....

Our neighbor used to have kids who were homeschooled. They were freaks. The kids didn't want to play with other kids in the neighborhood, and the kid didn't want to play with them. Instead they want to bother my wife and trade cooking tips - it was odd.

I consider my mom to be a smart person. When I look back on my high school career (this was the 80's so there was no internet) I think if she had the proper books and course curriculum she could have taught/home schooled about 70% of the classes I took and she would have done just as good of a job as I got in high school (and in some cases likely better). However, there were some classes that this simply could not have happened in. I took a chemistry class and a physics class my junior and senior years of high school and the teacher was brilliant. He encouraged us to push ourselves and ask a million questions and to challenge him just as much as he would challenge us. He showed us things in the lab that were incredible and there were many days when he tossed the book aside and gave us a different, better, lesson because he knew a better way to teach it. He had dual masters degrees (physics and chemistry) and worked during the summer for major companies solving different engineering problems. The summer before my first class with him he worked for Anheuser-Busch helping them redesign a better transport and manufacturing line.

I also had a very good economics teacher who was very similar encouraged debate and gave us some in credible, wild assignments. The guy has forgotten more about economics than most people will ever know.

There simply was no way my mom could have ever provided that level of education in those subjects for me.

I am not a home school hater, I think it can work very well for the right people in the right situation, but I don't think a parent just teaching from a book on a subject they know little about is going to be nearly as good or provide near the quality of education as a dedicated, talented teacher who really knows what they are doing.

Send your kids to public school so they can be educated to the level of the lowest common denominator thanks to the "no child left behind" program.

kids were freaks. right.

anyway

Someone besides me actually gets it!

My kid took High School classes in Jr High, because he finished all of his Jr High classes early. He is taking college classes now in High School, and has been a Jr Honor Society member since 7th grade.

Parents who suck at parenting would never commit to homeschooling.:2 cents:

It will be outlawed soon enough thanks to the state-supremacists and their cult of state worship called Statism, and then there will be pretty much no sanctuary from the abject disasters called public "schools" -- which are nothing more than propagandized, politicized warehouses for children.

If I was in the US I would homeschool