Where the fuck did all the .22LR ammo go? - GoFuckYourself.com

GFED · 11-07-2013, 04:29 AM

Seriously. What the fuck happened?

Harmon · 11-07-2013, 04:31 AM

GFED · 11-07-2013, 04:39 AM

Are you still riding my dick?

lezinterracial · 11-07-2013, 04:49 AM

It is being flipped on gunbroker and other auction sites.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=375027540

I don't even remember where the prices are supposed to be.

J.Houser · 11-07-2013, 05:29 AM

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Are you still riding my dick?

Give em credit with this latest photoshop creation. Harmon Harmony's photoshop is improving over those fucked up phony earnings receipts he fluffs his ass with.

lezinterracial · 11-07-2013, 06:31 AM

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It is being flipped on gunbroker and other auction sites.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=375027540

I don't even remember where the prices are supposed to be.

Supposedly there is one day wal-mart gets .22 ammo in. I heard there is a line there. My guess is - part are squirreling it away for the auction when they die of old age and the other half are selling with at least a 100 percent markup.

Harmon · 11-07-2013, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J.Houser

Give em credit with this latest photoshop creation. Harmon Harmony's photoshop is improving over those fucked up phony earnings receipts he fluffs his ass with.

Keep on telling yourself that, kid

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 11:13 AM

Used to be able to buy 500 round bricks for $10.00 on sale. Regular price $15-20.

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr

http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rimfire/22lr/

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 11:18 AM

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Seriously. What the fuck happened?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphben...-conversation/

probably something to do with this.. been awhile since i have gotten any updates, but last i heard PDs' were having trouble acquiring ammo, and were borrowing off their civilian bases

Rochard · 11-07-2013, 11:26 AM

President [insert current president here] is going to ban [insert ammo or firearm type here] shortly so you had better stock up.

J.Houser · 11-07-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Keep on telling yourself that, kid

cs6 works a lot better dawg.

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphben...-conversation/

probably something to do with this.. been awhile since i have gotten any updates, but last i heard PDs' were having trouble acquiring ammo, and were borrowing off their civilian bases

How many PD's do you think there are who use .22 ammo?

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 12:38 PM

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How many PD's do you think there are who use .22 ammo?

do you think buying up huge swaths of ammo would impact the material availability for all types of ammo?

So, would manufacturers be trying to fill the orders for PDs and other peeps, before filling the .22 orders?

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

do you think buying up huge swaths of ammo would impact the material availability for all types of ammo?

So, would manufacturers be trying to fill the orders for PDs and other peeps, before filling the .22 orders?

Most of the large Government contracts go through distributors suck as ATK (ammo distribution, not the porn company).

The distributors handle certain manufacturers leaving many other MFGs open to regular production and sales.

Also, just because Homeland contracts for X # of rounds does not mean that it's all at once or even that the full # is actually delivered.

As far as material availability, yes you have a good point there but in most cases the MFGs don't fill LE orders first as LE typically does not buy direct from the MFG.

I'm friends with the owners of a fairly well known high end ammo manufacturer. Before Sandy Hook, they had over 3 million rounds of .223 ammo in their warehouse and all their distributors were well stocked. Within 2 weeks of the shooting, their warehouse was empty and their production was backordered for over 2 years.

Normal citizens are buying the ammo and creating the supply and demand issue more than Government contracts are.

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Most of the large Government contracts go through distributors suck as ATK (ammo distribution, not the porn company).

The distributors handle certain manufacturers leaving many other MFGs open to regular production and sales.

Also, just because Homeland contracts for X # of rounds does not mean that it's all at once or even that the full # is actually delivered.

As far as material availability, yes you have a good point there but in most cases the MFGs don't fill LE orders first as LE typically does not buy direct from the MFG.

I'm friends with the owners of a fairly well known high end ammo manufacturer. Before Sandy Hook, they had over 3 million rounds of .223 ammo in their warehouse and all their distributors were well stocked. Within 2 weeks of the shooting, their warehouse was empty and their production was backordered for over 2 years.

Normal citizens are buying the ammo and creating the supply and demand issue more than Government contracts are.

well the first dhs buy was 1.6 billion, and i have to find links, but they did ANOTHER buy of around the same amount

according to the stats of the iraq war, enough ammunition for heavy fighting in the US, for a 20-35 years depending on how large the second buy was

this included hollow-points.

I understand consumers did massive buying sprees, but it's said the reason there is a shortage is this DHS buying spree

Last i heard, and it's been awhile, the government/senators started sending letters demanding explanations

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 01:34 PM

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well the first dhs buy was 1.6 billion, and i have to find links, but they did ANOTHER buy of around the same amount

according to the stats of the iraq war, enough ammunition for heavy fighting in the US, for a 20-35 years depending on how large the second buy was

this included hollow-points.

I understand consumers did massive buying sprees, but it's said the reason there is a shortage is this DHS buying spree

Last i heard, and it's been awhile, the government/senators started sending letters demanding explanations

"but it's said the reason there is a shortage" According to who? Something you read on the Internet or actual experiences you have in the firearms business?

The Government buying numbers are bullshit. Again, they contract for X amount but the delivery is far less.

"D.H.S. officials have pointed out repeatedly that bulk buying — whether ammunition, computers or stationery — is the norm for reasons of economy, and is especially sensible in the era of sequestration so zealously approved by Congress. D.H.S. says that its plan to buy about 750 million rounds in the next five years — 80 percent for training purposes — is not unusual."

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/...nspiracy/?_r=0

750 million is a far cry from 1.6 billion and it's spread out over 5 years.

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 01:36 PM

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"but it's said the reason there is a shortage" According to who? Something you read on the Internet or actual experiences you have in the firearms business?

The Government buying numbers are bullshit. Again, they contract for X amount but the delivery is far less.

"D.H.S. officials have pointed out repeatedly that bulk buying ? whether ammunition, computers or stationery ? is the norm for reasons of economy, and is especially sensible in the era of sequestration so zealously approved by Congress. D.H.S. says that its plan to buy about 750 million rounds in the next five years ? 80 percent for training purposes ? is not unusual."

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/...nspiracy/?_r=0

750 million is a far cry from 1.6 billion and it's spread out over 5 years.

guess it's just magic then

atom · 11-07-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

well the first dhs buy was 1.6 billion, and i have to find links, but they did ANOTHER buy of around the same amount

according to the stats of the iraq war, enough ammunition for heavy fighting in the US, for a 20-35 years depending on how large the second buy was

this included hollow-points.

I understand consumers did massive buying sprees, but it's said the reason there is a shortage is this DHS buying spree

Last i heard, and it's been awhile, the government/senators started sending letters demanding explanations

Federal Ammo is located here in MN. My friend is an engineer there. I bug him all the time about ammo since I hunt and shoot quite a bit. He said their shortage/price rise is due to a number of things and can't be blamed on 1 in particular. They are transitioning to a new facility, increase in materials has led to increase in prices. He said the biggest reason for the shortage is regular citizens hoarding. There was a shortage before Sandy Hook, in fact it started when Obama got elected. Originally the shortage started with .223/5.56.(ar-15 ammo) Since then it has bled over into other calibers.

They simply can't make enough ammo to keep up with demand. Their sales numbers have gone up x10 since 2008.

Hell, i was on armlist selling 7.62x39 ammo I had paid 14 cents a round for and reselling at $1 a round.

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 01:39 PM

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guess it's just magic then

Magic = People listening to the media and buying everything they can get.

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 01:39 PM

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Federal Ammo is located here in MN. My friend is an engineer there. I bug him all the time about ammo since I hunt and shoot quite a bit. He said their shortage/price rise is due to a number of things and can't be blamed on 1 in particular. They are transitioning to a new facility, increase in materials has led to increase in prices. He said the biggest reason for the shortage is regular citizens hoarding. There was a shortage before Sandy Hook, in fact it started when Obama got elected. Originally the shortage started with .223/5.56.(ar-15 ammo) Since then it has bled over into other calibers.

They simply can't make enough ammo to keep up with demand. Their sales numbers have gone up x10 since 2008.

Hell, i was on armlist selling 7.62x39 ammo I had paid 14 cents a round for and reselling at $1 a round.

yea i touched a bit on the fact there isn't just one reason

i don't really have time to pull data or debunk stuff, sorry boys

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Magic = People listening to the media and buying everything they can get.

are you referring to your finding one article, titled 'opinion', and thinking you won something?

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 01:45 PM

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are you referring to your finding one article, titled 'opinion', and thinking you won something?

I didn't know there was anything her for me to win here.

What I'm referring to is me making more money through the firearms industry over the last 3 years than in the adult industry. It's called "personal experience" instead of uneducated opinions.

I deal with firearms and ammo companies daily. Forgive me for providing facts.

atom · 11-07-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

yea i touched a bit on the fact there isn't just one reason

i don't really have time to pull data or debunk stuff, sorry boys

I wasn't arguing with you, just giving my opinion from someone who works for an ammo company. I've read the DHS stories about the shortage. I'm sure that had a part to play in everything.

What's sucks now is 12 gauge is starting to get hoarded.

AaronM · 11-07-2013, 02:16 PM

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I wasn't arguing with you, just giving my opinion from someone who works for an ammo company.

Two of us have given insight from two very large ammo MFGs. Clearly we know nothing compared to a Canadian with all of his personal gun knowledge.

_Richard_ · 11-07-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

I didn't know there was anything her for me to win here.

What I'm referring to is me making more money through the firearms industry over the last 3 years than in the adult industry. It's called "personal experience" instead of uneducated opinions.

I deal with firearms and ammo companies daily. Forgive me for providing facts.

it's one article that is an opinion piece

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Originally Posted by atom

I wasn't arguing with you, just giving my opinion from someone who works for an ammo company. I've read the DHS stories about the shortage. I'm sure that had a part to play in everything.

What's sucks now is 12 gauge is starting to get hoarded.

more for the other guy; my understanding is there has been stockpiles by peeps before, hard to imagine that suddenly it's an issue

however, obviously a complicated subject

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