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pimpmaster9000 10-29-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19852107)
So what's your point? I am not my government. I voted.

But you must realize that people like Obama are transient. They come they go. The people with names no one knows that are entrenched for years in government are the ones that really are the powerbase.

I never held you responsible for the actions of your government. Americans equate a (verbal) attack on their government as an attack on their country in general or as a personal attack. Same goes for the army.

I was specific in my post "the US government is almost impossible to insult"

Barry-xlovecam 10-29-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19852169)
Might not even be wise to post about it. :( :uhoh


:party-smi

Exactly my point, that it may be taken out of context by some idiot snooping ...

Minte 10-29-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19852210)
Exactly my point, that it may be taken out of context by some idiot snooping ...

If I suddenly stop posting you can assume you were correct.

_Richard_ 10-29-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19852169)
Might not even be wise to post about it. :( :uhoh


:party-smi

considering the way the law is set up? he's communicating about all those things, with foreigners.

klinton 10-29-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19852103)
we dont have a government :1orglaugh if we pick the wrong guys US gov democratically bomb us, so we have the guys your government supports :thumbsup technically speaking its the remote US corporate government acting like they are our government :1orglaugh...as are the governments of the surrounding regions...US installed...

its nice to actually have your own government like germany or russia...

i'm sure for 95 % that you are from Former Yugoslavia (but not Macedonia) ? ;-) :) am I right ;-) ?

pimpmaster9000 10-29-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19852522)
i'm sure for 95 % that you are from Former Yugoslavia (but not Macedonia) ? ;-) :) am I right ;-) ?

yup...3 US installed governments one next to the other :1orglaugh

klinton 10-29-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19852561)
yup...3 US installed governments one next to the other :1orglaugh

:winkwink:

TheSquealer 10-29-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19852085)
this isn't a step in the right direction, it's where i've been all along.

sure whistleblowing is a reason and obviously nothing good other than the reveal itself is coming from it

and that is exactly my point about why snowden is not a hero. he didn't do anything great, he didn't do anything brave. nothing good is resulting from what he did. no one is better off now. and even more importantly, several things are worse.

Lots of good came from it in some peoples eyes apparently. There was some feigned outrage from foreign leaders who are embarrassed to be publicly outed that they can't provide their head of state with a secure phone. This is then all followed with some feel good meetings of heads of state to continue to express feigned outrage to appease their voters. There will be some fake governmental policy reviews. There will likely be some new toothless laws which are most often worded in such a way that nothing really changes. There will be agency policy changes where the new policies will really just be the old policies as all laws pertaining to intelligence are filled with countless exceptions and caveats.

And... all the naive idiots of the world will get to say "see, things are different now" as their own government and foreign governments continue to monitor their phone calls, emails, text messages and other various digital communications... so they'll be happy and docile for another 5-10 years willfully ignoring the blatantly obvious truths of intelligence gathering and all allied governments cooperation in the very same things they claim to be outraged about.

We are in the middle of the second decade of common knowledge the USA and certain cooperating nations are monitoring all digital communications... but this won't slow any of the morons down from pretending to be outraged in 10 years when the subject comes up again.

Pretending to be upset at this or pretending anything is changed is a bit like giving the homeless junkie at the intersection $10.00. Its a feel good move that is quite literally the most selfish, self serving and obviously ineffectual gesture that allows them to get through the rest of the day patting themselves on the back saying 'see, i care' - as the junkie then takes that $10.00 to go OD on black tar heroin. That is the voting public.

Barry-xlovecam 10-29-2013 01:59 PM

I guess good honest police work -- investigations of suspects and getting warrants is fantasy land.

Where can I buy US Constitution print toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with the US Constitution when taking a "constitutional?" just like the NSA does ...

adendreams 10-29-2013 02:15 PM

there are now full blown press conferences with Obama about NSA spying and the White House is in full retreat- talking about limitations, transparancy, etc... Thanks Snowden.

He was programmed by his father from childhood to be an anti-gov nut job and his motives were all out espionage from the beginning...but hey he made the big sacrifice and we are all reaping benefits from it now.

Thanks man - sorry you have to live under hard core iron curtain surveilance now for the rest of your life (I'm sure he's under video now when he wipes his ass)...

Bummer but I bet you will end up hating Russian Gov far more than you ever did the US.

adendreams 10-29-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19851880)
If you are an American and have a pulse, being snooped on is common knowledge. J Edgar Hoover had massive amounts of information on many thousands of people 50 years ago.
If you file a tax return, you have given the IRS a roadmap of your life. If you have children in public schools. The list of info gathering is enormous.

The only way around it would be to live by yourself in a cabin in the hills of Montana.

fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass


Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

SlammedMedia 10-29-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winter_ (Post 19850263)
betrayed his country

you lost me there.

Minte 10-29-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19852708)
fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass


Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

Another idiot loser who is going to change the world. So tell us, photographer. how are you going to do that?

dyna mo 10-29-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19852644)
Lots of good came from it in some peoples eyes apparently. There was some feigned outrage from foreign leaders who are embarrassed to be publicly outed that they can't provide their head of state with a secure phone. This is then all followed with some feel good meetings of heads of state to continue to express feigned outrage to appease their voters. There will be some fake governmental policy reviews. There will likely be some new toothless laws which are most often worded in such a way that nothing really changes. There will be agency policy changes where the new policies will really just be the old policies as all laws pertaining to intelligence are filled with countless exceptions and caveats.

And... all the naive idiots of the world will get to say "see, things are different now" as their own government and foreign governments continue to monitor their phone calls, emails, text messages and other various digital communications... so they'll be happy and docile for another 5-10 years willfully ignoring the blatantly obvious truths of intelligence gathering and all allied governments cooperation in the very same things they claim to be outraged about.

We are in the middle of the second decade of common knowledge the USA and certain cooperating nations are monitoring all digital communications... but this won't slow any of the morons down from pretending to be outraged in 10 years when the subject comes up again.

Pretending to be upset at this or pretending anything is changed is a bit like giving the homeless junkie at the intersection $10.00. Its a feel good move that is quite literally the most selfish, self serving and obviously ineffectual gesture that allows them to get through the rest of the day patting themselves on the back saying 'see, i care' - as the junkie then takes that $10.00 to go OD on black tar heroin. That is the voting public.


boom goes the dynamite.

i think i missed the intent of your previous post! :mad:

_Richard_ 10-29-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19852708)
fun snapshot into the mind of a right winger - HEY ITS OK..NOTHING NEW HERE..BIG BROTHER HAS ALWAYS BEEN WATCHING - ITS UNAVOIDABLE - JUST ACCEPT YOUR FATE YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING hahaha dumbass


Pigshit
(sorry King but thats a damn good word)

don't bring up the bee hive colony collapse

or he'll lose his knickers and follow you around for years to come


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