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Old 10-07-2013, 05:33 PM   #1
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Will Canadian Immigrant Ted Cruz HURT or HELP is political future with this shutdown?

He has shown keen interest in running for President (although born in Canada might make it tough) He single handedly shut down the US Gov so here is the question:

Do you think he is helping or hurting his political future with this stunt?

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Old 10-07-2013, 08:11 PM   #2
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There's a segment of our population who not only like him, but think he's doing the greatest thing ever in American politics. This is a small group of crazy idiots who you can see in action if you visit any Tea Party message board. They're a racist, paranoid bunch of fuckheads. Just read some of their posts and you'll see what I mean. It's all negative, xenophobic, doom and gloom, anti-everything.

Fuck Ted Cruz. He should be thrown off a cliff for the good of our nation.
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Even members are his own party are starting to speak out against him. He's not helping himself. Someone (forget who) recently snuck out from his own fundraiser to avoid being photographed with him.

Interestingly, he is backed by Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal. Yes, the very openly gay and alleged orgy loving Peter is the main backer of this right wing extremist. The same Peter that used to welcome tons of cash from adult until he sold to eBay.

Cruz is supposed to hate everything about someone like Thiel. It just shows you what a whore Cruz actually is.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:57 PM   #5
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It all depends

If the president caves in and makes concessions, then Cruz's stock goes up and if those concessions consist of, or include, delaying Obamacare, then Cruz heads the Republican ticket in 2016.

If the Republicans back down, Cruz becomes persona non grata within his own party.

And if no one backs down and the economy crashes like Business Week is predicting it will, well...

Our new military administered government will likely see fit to publicly hang Ted Cruz in the middle of Times Square.
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If the president caves in and makes concessions, then Cruz's stock goes up and if those concessions consist of, or include, delaying Obamacare, then Cruz heads the Republican ticket in 2016.

If the Republicans back down, Cruz becomes persona non grata within his own party.

And if no one backs down and the economy crashes like Business Week is predicting it will, well...

Our new military administered government will likely see fit to publicly hang Ted Cruz in the middle of Times Square.
People are starting to say Obama should go around the House and sue in the Supreme Court under the 4th section of the 14th Amendment:

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law ... shall not be questioned."

Then the right leaning Supreme Court will either have to give Obama the victory or burn the Constitution.

Meanwhile, the Defense Secretary was able to bring about half of those furloughed back to work by loosely interpreting the rules on essential employees.
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As a Canadian, I sincerely apologize. First we dump Justin Bieber on you, now Ted Cruz! Ack we suck.

Anyway I think Ted Cruz will be around for a while. I bet you anything that regardless of what happens with the shutdown, Ted Cruz will become the Tea Party nominee for president.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:59 AM   #9
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As a Canadian, I sincerely apologize. First we dump Justin Bieber on you, now Ted Cruz! Ack we suck.

Anyway I think Ted Cruz will be around for a while. I bet you anything that regardless of what happens with the shutdown, Ted Cruz will become the Tea Party nominee for president.
Yea should make for another all out shit-fest of a primary...with the Teabaggers further alienating themselves from the moderate (sane) (well semi-sane) Republicans like Christie. Sit back and watch the implosion.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:08 PM   #10
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If the president caves in and makes concessions, then Cruz's stock goes up and if those concessions consist of, or include, delaying Obamacare, then Cruz heads the Republican ticket in 2016.

If the Republicans back down, Cruz becomes persona non grata within his own party.

And if no one backs down and the economy crashes like Business Week is predicting it will, well...

Our new military administered government will likely see fit to publicly hang Ted Cruz in the middle of Times Square.
it's still early in the crisis but it looks like ol Ted's stock is plummeting. He's all but disappeared from TV (which I'm sure he's thankful for) and no one is even talking about the defund crusade anymore - thats a dead issue...when the dust clears I think we can expect his fellow Repugnacons to throw his ass right where he belongs under bus.

I will be surprised if he even gets Teabagger support for a run at the Presidency now.
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He's the most hated guy in Capitol Hill, and a lot of his haters are Republicans. But we could end up seeing a primary debate with Cruz and Rand Paul, because that side is ridiculously ignorant.

Who would be half-witted enough to trust anything Ted Cruz says? Every cell in his body screams out "bullshit artist" when he speaks. I'd have to wonder that anyone who would follow that punk could even tie their own fucking shoes. He has a face begging to be smashed. What kind of person speaks for 20 hours to make sure low cost healthcare isn't available to people who weren't fortunate enough to get born with a silver spoon up their ass? Of course, I'm not saying you should be entitled to it -- but its a rigged system, in favor of giant insurance companies + hospitals that charge 100 dollars for a bag of saline. Whether or not Obamacare turns out to be a disaster, or great -- at least the Liberals are taking a step. The Republican way of doing it would be to make sure the "job creators" have lots of tax free income to "trickle down" some insurance to the masses.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:06 PM   #13
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He's the most hated guy in Capitol Hill, and a lot of his haters are Republicans. But we could end up seeing a primary debate with Cruz and Rand Paul, because that side is ridiculously ignorant.

Who would be half-witted enough to trust anything Ted Cruz says? Every cell in his body screams out "bullshit artist" when he speaks. I'd have to wonder that anyone who would follow that punk could even tie their own fucking shoes. He has a face begging to be smashed. What kind of person speaks for 20 hours to make sure low cost healthcare isn't available to people who make less money than his silver spoon ass.
what you said.

this much is certain: Prior to this dabacle he was FOR SURE going to be in the running for the nom in 2016...now I'm not sure anyone will even back him and wouldnt it be fun to see him disappear from the race altogether thanks to this nutty crusade,
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this much is certain: Prior to this dabacle he was FOR SURE going to be in the running for the nom in 2016...now I'm not sure anyone will even back him and wouldnt it be fun to see him disappear from the race altogether thanks to this nutty crusade,


I so hope that Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and the other Tea Party types split off to form a 3rd party.



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As a Canadian I'm disgusted and ashamed of Ted Cruz. That dipshit needs to be kicked out of office.
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So now Republicans are saying "we had a very productive meeting with the President" ----which translates to "we miscalculated how much the public would rightfully blame the GOP on this stunt, so now we're trying t save ourselves from the most abysmal polling numbers in US history".
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i read today somewhere that he has a 20 something % approval rating on Fox News - that makes the Fox News audience much less crazy than i thought
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As a Canadian, I sincerely apologize. First we dump Justin Bieber on you, now Ted Cruz! Ack we suck.

Anyway I think Ted Cruz will be around for a while. I bet you anything that regardless of what happens with the shutdown, Ted Cruz will become the Tea Party nominee for president.
If he was born in canada maybe you shouldn't be willing to bet anything...
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I'm listening to this human turd speaking at a "values summit" and he pretty much admitted him and Mike Lee went over the heads of Republican leadership to fight Obamacare. He's alienating himself in his own party, and when he hears those cheers by wackos in the audience, he has no fucking clue that they're all in a bubble. Even in that place, they've already thrown out about 6 protesters. Guy is an idiot and looks like he's trying to conquer the US by himself, with his following of retarded "freedom lovers" which basically translates to "racist, paranoid nutjobs".

He says he's going to the WHite House to talk to the president, and made a joke about not being seen again. President shouldn't even talk to that fucker.
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Ted Cruz's dad fought in Castros commie revolution then claimed he didn't know they were commies.

He as well as Rand Paul are also taking a lot of money from the extreme Religious Right , whom want to take over our govt to install biblical law..

The right never stopped trying to say Obama was born in Keyna.. Yet they will openly vote for a guy born in Canada whom dad fought for Castro.. Then again Bush sr dad and Jr Gand daddy was a confirmed Nazi supporter.. So it's seems they only care about these things if it's a Democrat..
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A Canadian just sent me the following message: don't you have to be American-born to be the President?

The answer is: yes, you have to be a natural born American citizen to become the President of the United States.

Sad that a Canadian had to bring this up.
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A Canadian just sent me the following message: don't you have to be American-born to be the President?

The answer is: yes, you have to be a natural born American citizen to become the President of the United States.

Sad that a Canadian had to bring this up.
yea there is a lot of buzz about Cruz running for president - all the Teabagger batshitters are saying "Hey if a Kenyan can be Pres then why not a Canadian?"
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You have to be born in the United States to be President of the United States. This guy doesn't have a chance in hell.
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You have to be born in the United States to be President of the United States. This guy doesn't have a chance in hell.
I thought this too, but there's an exception: Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States.
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The 2016 republican presidential primaries are going to be epic. They will pick a non electable candidate who will get stomped in the general election.

Then all the conservatives will be like "he didn't get elected because he wasn't conservative enough"
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The 2016 republican presidential primaries are going to be epic. They will pick a non electable candidate who will get stomped in the general election.

Then all the conservatives will be like "he didn't get elected because he wasn't conservative enough"
They have two vaguely electable guys. Jeb Bush & Chris Christie. However...

The Bush name is still pretty radioactive.

Christie pissed off his party for daring to work with (and even say nice words about) Obama in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. Oh, and he bitched out his own party for their inaction on the hurricane relief bill.
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