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SilentKnight · 10-08-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

but i graduated from there to pioneer i think, then later to the thorenz, which was pretty nice.

Thorens was a sweet turntable back in the day.

I upgraded to one from a Technics SLQ2 sometime in the 80s.

dyna mo · 10-08-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Thorens was a sweet turntable back in the day.

I upgraded to one from a Technics SLQ2 sometime in the 80s.

ah, with an s, that's right, the model i had was their entry level or close to it, nothing fancy, maybe in the $500 range in the late 1980s. can't recall the cartridge(s) i used back then, they were pricey too but i think i recall some high-value cartridges in the upper $100 range that i liked. what were the speakers i liked back then?>...............tannoy? wharfedale???????is that right........hmmm,

Vendzilla · 10-08-2013, 03:18 PM

I remember the Teac X10R reel to reel. I bought in Japan for $500 and sold it 10 years later for more than that. I think you could fit 18 hours of music on it

Minte · 10-08-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

we're both prolly of that age group that caught a pretty cool tech wave. my first phonograph was my older sister's and pink. it only played 45's which we had to insert the adapter (or not!) to get the 45 to play, i'm pretty sure 1 of those was the bay city rollers.

but i graduated from there to pioneer i think, then later to the thorenz, which was pretty nice.

have you seen the captain kirk douglas gibson?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...FXBo7AodxVwAIg

NO,,I didn't see that..
I'm not looking either. Hot honeymoon with the new LP R9
The tone of this thing is exactly what I've been hunting for. I did some recording with it last weekend during a practice session. As soon as I figure out how to upload to youtube I'll post it.

dyna mo · 10-08-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

NO,,I didn't see that..
I'm not looking either. Hot honeymoon with the new LP R9
The tone of this thing is exactly what I've been hunting for. I did some recording with it last weekend during a practice session. As soon as I figure out how to upload to youtube I'll post it.

right on.

yah, not looking either, especially at gibson eh,

but it's a neat deal they did on this guitar, the wiring on it is pretty trick.

Minte · 10-08-2013, 04:30 PM

This is just a practice session (so it's NOT perfect) in dorian mode key of D with the new LP R9. It was a one through, but I liked the tone so much on this I saved it. At about the 3 minute mark there is a harmonic thing that is just the left hand on the fret board. It almost sounds like a cello.
I tried to do the same technique on some of my other highend guitars and couldn't do it.

The amp is the Mustang I.. I'm not real sophisticated. I have jam tracks recorded on my computer and play those back through the computer speakers then just plug into an amp normally, then record it all with a ZOOM digital recorder.

edit: youtube is really a pain

fuzebox · 10-08-2013, 05:28 PM

A couple years ago I had a good receiver, speakers, etc... After moving into a new place last week and starting from scratch, I decided fuck it and bought a Bose soundbar. Now I stream mp3s through my boxee and apple tv...

Tom_PM · 10-08-2013, 06:24 PM

I'm not talking about a high end turntable, maybe I should have specified that. He spent 280 bucks on a turntable that would have cost 100 in the early 80's. I was trying to say that it seems to be more of a specialized market with some nice markups.

SilentKnight · 10-08-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

It's good that a few boutique manufacturers are still out there. I admit, It's been years since I could call myself an audiophile, but I did not know a single name on that list.

Likewise, been years since I've considered myself somewhat of an audiophile, but I recognized McIntosh (great amps) and Thiel (speakers).

Not on the list was Infinity speaker systems. I recall back in the day they made one of the most badass speakers systems - the Reference Standard III. $30k for the system...and you needed a forklift to move'em around.

SilentKnight · 10-08-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

ah, with an s, that's right, the model i had was their entry level or close to it, nothing fancy, maybe in the $500 range in the late 1980s. can't recall the cartridge(s) i used back then, they were pricey too but i think i recall some high-value cartridges in the upper $100 range that i liked. what were the speakers i liked back then?>...............tannoy? wharfedale???????is that right........hmmm,

Wharfdales, yeah...a buddy had a sweet-sounding pair of those I recall.

Likewise, the Thorens I had was around the same price range. I had a Stanton cartridge in it. So long ago...can't remember the specs or prices.

dyna mo · 10-08-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

This is just a practice session (so it's NOT perfect) in dorian mode key of D with the new LP R9. It was a one through, but I liked the tone so much on this I saved it. At about the 3 minute mark there is a harmonic thing that is just the left hand on the fret board. It almost sounds like a cello.
I tried to do the same technique on some of my other highend guitars and couldn't do it.

The amp is the Mustang I.. I'm not real sophisticated. I have jam tracks recorded on my computer and play those back through the computer speakers then just plug into an amp normally, then record it all with a ZOOM digital recorder.

edit: youtube is really a pain

dang, that sounds real good Minte. i caught that harmonic, you carried that out for quite awhiel eh. i liked the tones right after that, 3:30-~4, nice too.

so that is the dorian mode with you jamming it in a jazz interpretation in D?

i'm glad you got that guitar man- enjoy! i'm beginningto understand that *oh yah, there it is* guitar

MaDalton · 10-08-2013, 06:38 PM

i worked as sound engineer, 95% of the stuff the so called audiophiles get excited about, is complete nonsense from a physical point of view

and the older you get, the less frequencies you can hear anyways

SilentKnight · 10-08-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

and the older you get, the less frequencies you can hear anyways

I lost a few frequencies after a Van Halen concert at Maple Leaf Gardens in 1984.

MaDalton · 10-08-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I lost a few frequencies after a Van Halen concert at Maple Leaf Gardens in 1984.

i am still surprised that i got out of my job and 10 years of hard rock band without any significant hearing problems

but we had a colleague that was totally deaf on certain frequencies around 4-6khz - very annoying when you had monitor feedback and he simply didnt hear it

SilentKnight · 10-08-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i am still surprised that i got out of my job and 10 years of hard rock band without any significant hearing problems

but we had a colleague that was totally deaf on certain frequencies around 4-6khz - very annoying when you had monitor feedback and he simply didnt hear it

Judging by the 'music' (sic) my 19yr old daughter listens to...I'm looking forward to the onset of deafness.

Minte · 10-08-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

dang, that sounds real good Minte. i caught that harmonic, you carried that out for quite awhiel eh. i liked the tones right after that, 3:30-~4, nice too.

so that is the dorian mode with you jamming it in a jazz interpretation in D?

i'm glad you got that guitar man- enjoy! i'm beginningto understand that *oh yah, there it is* guitar

I would say it's an eclectic jazz version in D..with strong influence of Joe Satriani.
Of all the *power* players I like the way he rolls down the neck. He is so fluid on the transitions and that's something I am really working on.

Minte · 10-09-2013, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Likewise, been years since I've considered myself somewhat of an audiophile, but I recognized McIntosh (great amps) and Thiel (speakers).

Not on the list was Infinity speaker systems. I recall back in the day they made one of the most badass speakers systems - the Reference Standard III. $30k for the system...and you needed a forklift to move'em around.

Those were the days! I remember the first time I listened to Bose 901's..was the Dark Side Of THe Moon and it was amazing.

BareBacked · 10-09-2013, 11:38 AM

I love sonos. Best of both worlds

SBJ · 10-09-2013, 06:37 PM

I've had one "home stereo system" in my life but 5 or 6 home theater receivers since. When I was 14 (1984) I worked my first job and took out a $1,000 loan for a Sansui stereo that had
1000 watt amp
A linear turntable
14 band EQ (7 per side)
digital tuner
dual cassette player
remote control

and these exact speakers

After this I got into LaserDisc players and surround sound and later DVD and blu ray.

I would say that home "stereo's" have went to the waste side but replaced with home theater systems. I know I would be lost without my 6.1 receiver and bose dual cube surround with powered sub. I can patch my iPad into my receiver when I want to listen to music.

mineistaken · 10-09-2013, 06:48 PM

You mean CD players are death? Because stereo systems is needed to listen to digital music in the same way. Back in the day you listened stereo system hooked with CD player, now you listen stereo system hooked with digital player or computer.

BaldBastard · 10-09-2013, 09:48 PM

Just threw out my old stereo out today, was a mixed system costing many many thousands and in the bin it fucking went.

Replaced with a SONOS step up

For those that are saying they cant be arsed putting old music on to a digital format.. you don't really need to at all unless its some obscure album you have, I must of ripped about 300 of my cds before I figured.. why? Its all on demand now with sites like SongL and that streams straight to Sonos, there's a few million albums at your fingertips.

Since I found DI.fm, I have not brought a CD, Goa trance all day here.

The problem with not buying music by CD, Record or Tape, is back when we did that, whatever song you brought the album for.. there was always that track on side B, that no one really knew about that was always better than all the rest, and those were the tracks that really hooked you into groups.

Sonos is awesome! check it out
http://www.sonos.com/

get a Play5 first, then just start adding, I have a full setup now, its bliss for my deaf ears hehe

iwantchixx · 10-09-2013, 10:33 PM

I find stuff from 95-forward is pretty much garbage now in terms of speakers on the market unless you're getting into $1500 pairs, and even then, most don't have that warm natural sound when guitar-driven music is put through them. Ya can't beat large paper.. thus, until I can afford the $1500 expenditure on the dual 10" setup I want.. my single 10" per side 198o's mint Toshiba 727's will do. Mind you, put through a more modern amp with a modern subwoofer and modern center channel, but the difference when using big paper where guitar music is involved.. is remarkable.

That's why guitar amps employ paper cones, as well. They just plain sound better and more natural.

InfoGuy · 10-10-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Oh, ok.

http://windhaming.com/american-made-audio-list/

I'm surprised Krell Industries isn't on the list. It's one of the biggest US manufacturers of high end solid state audio equipment.

Choopa_Pardo · 10-10-2013, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

I store all my music as 320kb mp3s and cant tell a huge difference from cds, but I still hook my computers into home theater receivers using hdmi. There's no reason you can't have good quality sound just because you enjoy the convenience of mp3s or flac.

Seconded.

InfoGuy · 10-10-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Likewise, been years since I've considered myself somewhat of an audiophile, but I recognized McIntosh (great amps) and Thiel (speakers).

Not on the list was Infinity speaker systems. I recall back in the day they made one of the most badass speakers systems - the Reference Standard III. $30k for the system...and you needed a forklift to move'em around.

The Apogee Acoustics Grands ($85,000 20 years ago) are full range ribbons with subwoofers that sound better than the Infinity Reference.

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Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	This is just a practice session (so it's NOT perfect) in dorian mode key of D with the new LP R9. It was a one through, but I liked the tone so much on this I saved it. At about the 3 minute mark there is a harmonic thing that is just the left hand on the fret board. It almost sounds like a cello. I tried to do the same technique on some of my other highend guitars and couldn't do it. The amp is the Mustang I.. I'm not real sophisticated. I have jam tracks recorded on my computer and play those back through the computer speakers then just plug into an amp normally, then record it all with a ZOOM digital recorder. edit: youtube is really a pain __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are. Last edited by Minte; 10-08-2013 at 04:34 PM..

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SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,374	I've had one "home stereo system" in my life but 5 or 6 home theater receivers since. When I was 14 (1984) I worked my first job and took out a $1,000 loan for a Sansui stereo that had 1000 watt amp A linear turntable 14 band EQ (7 per side) digital tuner dual cassette player remote control and these exact speakers After this I got into LaserDisc players and surround sound and later DVD and blu ray. I would say that home "stereo's" have went to the waste side but replaced with home theater systems. I know I would be lost without my 6.1 receiver and bose dual cube surround with powered sub. I can patch my iPad into my receiver when I want to listen to music. __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

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mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	You mean CD players are death? Because stereo systems is needed to listen to digital music in the same way. Back in the day you listened stereo system hooked with CD player, now you listen stereo system hooked with digital player or computer.

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BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 16,055	Just threw out my old stereo out today, was a mixed system costing many many thousands and in the bin it fucking went. Replaced with a SONOS step up For those that are saying they cant be arsed putting old music on to a digital format.. you don't really need to at all unless its some obscure album you have, I must of ripped about 300 of my cds before I figured.. why? Its all on demand now with sites like SongL and that streams straight to Sonos, there's a few million albums at your fingertips. Since I found DI.fm, I have not brought a CD, Goa trance all day here. The problem with not buying music by CD, Record or Tape, is back when we did that, whatever song you brought the album for.. there was always that track on side B, that no one really knew about that was always better than all the rest, and those were the tracks that really hooked you into groups. Sonos is awesome! check it out http://www.sonos.com/ get a Play5 first, then just start adding, I have a full setup now, its bliss for my deaf ears hehe Last edited by BaldBastard; 10-09-2013 at 09:50 PM..

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I find stuff from 95-forward is pretty much garbage now in terms of speakers on the market unless you're getting into $1500 pairs, and even then, most don't have that warm natural sound when guitar-driven music is put through them. Ya can't beat large paper.. thus, until I can afford the $1500 expenditure on the dual 10" setup I want.. my single 10" per side 198o's mint Toshiba 727's will do. Mind you, put through a more modern amp with a modern subwoofer and modern center channel, but the difference when using big paper where guitar music is involved.. is remarkable. That's why guitar amps employ paper cones, as well. They just plain sound better and more natural.