Meth Results

[Crazy Enough]

Why people go hard on drugs? Information is everywhere. Every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Hell, my only "drug" is pussy.

[XXXtrailers]

I think it's like alcohol and nicotine. You want just to try but can't stop anymore.

Pussy it's best "drug" ever!

[dillfly2000]

Which reminds me, The Walking Dead is back on next month.

[seeandsee]

They lope meth, meth loves them :P

[kane]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

Why people go hard on drugs? Information is everywhere. Every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Hell, my only "drug" is pussy.

There are a number of things that lead people to meth. Very few people start out using meth. They start with lesser drugs then often switch to meth. One of my friends is a cop and he tells me that a lot of people switch to meth once they are already addicts because it is cheaper and lasts longer. If they are doing crack the high only lasts a short time. They can spend the same amount of money on meth and get high for days instead of hours.

Sadly, meth is highly addictive and many of the people who get to the point of using it are addicts to begin with so it is like two it is like chocolate and peanut butter. Two things that are made for each other find each other.

They never start out intending to kill themselves, but it doesn't take long and the drug has its claws in you and it is so bad that they say only about 10-15% of those who are addicted to the drug are ever able to fully kick it.

[Socks]

I remember trying it a few times in my rave days, always with other drugs though so not sure exactly what its effects are. Also never injected anything so I dunno what that's like.

Glad I got all that outta my system, now it's just weed and the odd beer.

[Mutt]

Some are horrific but some of those 'after' shots are just people not taking care of themselves, a by-product of their lifestyle. you could see the same with people who are suffering from depression and other mental illnesses.

[Manfap]

Not really seen in Western Europe. thank fuck.

[yuu.design]

damn, poor people

[SuckOnThis]

Don't be fooled, those are all marijuana addicts!

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

Why people go hard on drugs? Information is everywhere. Every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Hell, my only "drug" is pussy.

i've known people who have died or ruined their lives over women as well. nobody tries to get addicted to anything...

[96ukssob]

The last girl on the right looks like this chick I know

Crazy because her pictures from 5 years ago she was really attractive and had her shit together, now she randomly posts about nonsense and with other white trash guys.

I guess gravity is stronger for those who use meth?

[SuckOnThis]

Alcohol has killed more people and has ruined more lives than all illegal drugs combined.

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

Why people go hard on drugs? Information is everywhere. Every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Hell, my only "drug" is pussy.

Really? How many people die from Meth use or overdose each year? Or any illegal drugs for that matter? And throw in terrorism too. Way less than from obesity, smoking and alcohol. Google Meth deaths: what do you come up with? The world needs a boogyman to talk about and fear. Makes them feel better and blinds them to real problems.

[Jel]

lol, yeah, meth is good! Only a handful die from it, it's all lies and propaganda that makes meth sound so bad, fact

[Jel]

Meth isn't a real problem

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Really? How many people die from Meth use or overdose each year? Or any illegal drugs for that matter? And throw in terrorism too. Way less than from obesity, smoking and alcohol. Google Meth deaths: what do you come up with? The world needs a boogyman to talk about and fear. Makes them feel better and blinds them to real problems.

Something tells me the people in those pics aren't exactly productive members of society. Even if it doesn't kill them, it obviously makes them into useless walking corpses that leech off of society. When your face starts caving in and you are covered in scabs I doubt you are out working a 9 to 5 job. Never heard of a functional meth addict.

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Something tells me the people in those pics aren't exactly productive members of society. Even if it doesn't kill them, it obviously makes them into useless walking corpses that leech off of society. When your face starts caving in and you are covered in scabs I doubt you are out working a 9 to 5 job. Never heard of a functional meth addict.

If life were only that easy - that we could recognize non-productive members of society so quickly! Look at sociopaths throughout history - usually the nice guy, next door, very quiet.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

If life were only that easy - that we could recognize non-productive members of society so quickly! Look at sociopaths throughout history - usually the nice guy, next door, very quiet.

Totally flawed. So bcause x amount of sociopaths in history appear normal on the outside, these fucked up meth heads are productive members of society, causing zero pain to people who love them, and so on?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Really? How many people die from Meth use or overdose each year? Or any illegal drugs for that matter? And throw in terrorism too. Way less than from obesity, smoking and alcohol. Google Meth deaths: what do you come up with? The world needs a boogyman to talk about and fear. Makes them feel better and blinds them to real problems.

Live in methland and you may have a different opinion.

Users are more or less parasites. They don't only impact themselves, they impact everyone around them. They steal anything they can find in order to pay for their next fix. In fact I just had one try to rip me off this past weekend.

Cooking meth is extremely dangerous and can easily hurt innocent bystanders. A basement/barn blowing up due to a cook fucking up are not uncommon.

Now someone can go on to list a variety of other drug type users and claim they do the same thing, but they don't. Meth is completely different, for whatever reason, and destroys everything in its path.

[dyna mo]

a meme is not fact.

fact is, those are extreme cases and most importantly, that meme provides no proof meth is the reason for the before and afters........look at the one chick 3 down from the top right, her face has been burned, meth doesn't do that.


the simple fact is most people who have done meth continue to be functioning members of society and move on, don't get to that point represented in that meme.

meme's are cute though. in an internet cute kinda way

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

a meme is not fact.

fact is, those are extreme cases and most importantly, that meme provides no proof meth is the reason for the before and afters........look at the one chick 3 down from the top right, her face has been burned, meth doesn't do that.


the simple fact is most people who have done meth continue to be functioning members of society and move on, don't get to that point represented in that meme.

meme's are cute though. in an internet cute kinda way

Most drunk drivers never have an accident - that doesn't mean there's no harm in drink-driving

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Jel

Most drunk drivers never have an accident - that doesn't mean there's no harm in drink-driving

yup, and that's why alcohol is ok.

[dyna mo]

but that wasn't what i was saying.

is dangerous territory to point finger at an entire group of people and say worthless, especially based on a silly internet meme and not on reality because the reality is most people who experiment with meth do just that, experiment and move on. it's not got some extra special addiction additive that turns people into what is represented in that meme.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

but that wasn't what i was saying.

is dangerous territory to point finger at an entire group of people and say worthless, especially based on a silly internet meme and not on reality because the reality is most people who experiment with meth do just that, experiment and move on. it's not got some extra special addiction additive that turns people into what is represented in that meme.

ah ok, and I agree to a certain extent. I kinda skipped the whole meme thing (that I didn't even bother looking at tbh) when someone said meth isn't a real problem etc.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Jel

ah ok, and I agree to a certain extent. I kinda skipped the whole meme thing (that I didn't even bother looking at tbh) when someone said meth isn't a real problem etc.

i guess maybe that's where the issue is- what's a real problem? it seems randy is saying that in comparison, alcohol is a much bigger real problem.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

Why people go hard on drugs? Information is everywhere. Every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Hell, my only "drug" is pussy.

its very corrosive they put some wicked shit in there

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i guess maybe that's where the issue is- what's a real problem? it seems randy is saying that in comparison, alcohol is a much bigger real problem.

That's such a flawed argument though. One doesn't negate the other. It's like those people who say (and yes I'm going off topic now) but there are worse off people in blahblah land.

If I stub my toe in a hospital ward full of cancer-stricken kids in wheelchairs, my toe still hurts.

You can use the 'but xyz is worse' forever.

[ThunderBalls]

And here I thought it was the faces of GFY.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i guess maybe that's where the issue is- what's a real problem? it seems randy is saying that in comparison, alcohol is a much bigger real problem.

In the case of heroin, there are entire towns in the UK that were pretty much ruined by it. The last time I was in Nottingham, parts of the town looked like a scene from the Walking Dead. Meth was starting to take its place when I left.

I don't spend enough time in small town America to know if that is echoed here and cities like LA have enough different corrosive factors that drugs just blend in with the others.

Of course there are functioning drug users. I think most of us agree that alcohol has been a bigger problem over time and appreciate the double standard that exists. That doesn't mean that other problems don't exist and that they shouldn't be handled.

I've come to think that the reason that weed gets labeled as a gateway drug isn't because it creates an addiction that is then transferred to other drugs. It is because once somebody does it and finds out that they have pretty much been lied to they then wonder what else has been a lie and try other things. Perhaps if we were more honest then the warnings of the truly dangerous would be more clear rather than muddled into a simple 'drugs are bad mmmkay' wag of the finger.

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i guess maybe that's where the issue is- what's a real problem? it seems randy is saying that in comparison, alcohol is a much bigger real problem.

And obesity. And Diabetes. Look at the numbers. Meth death (the OP's original point, to which I was responding) is so miniscule as compared to other causes of death that I could not find any current numbers using Google. That's my point. But then Jel responds that I'm saying Meth is good.

But carry on. And someone please post some of those Amy Winehouse photos. Oh wait - that was that other great menace, cocaine.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

In the case of heroin, there are entire towns in the UK that were pretty much ruined by it. The last time I was in Nottingham, parts of the town looked like a scene from the Walking Dead. Meth was starting to take its place when I left.

I don't spend enough time in small town America to know if that is echoed here and cities like LA have enough different corrosive factors that drugs just blend in with the others.

Of course there are functioning drug users. I think most of us agree that alcohol has been a bigger problem over time and appreciate the double standard that exists. That doesn't mean that other problems don't exist and that they shouldn't be handled.

I've come to think that the reason that weed gets labeled as a gateway drug isn't because it creates an addiction that is then transferred to other drugs. It is because once somebody does it and finds out that they have pretty much been lied to they then wonder what else has been a lie and try other things. Perhaps if we were more honest then the warnings of the truly dangerous would be more clear rather than muddled into a simple 'drugs are bad mmmkay' wag of the finger.

2 things.

the debate re: which is worse isn't mine, i simply attempted to clarify a point made in that debate here. while i am of the sort that thinks the bigger problems should be handled first, i'm not the type to disregard the lesser issues in an either/or faceoff.

my point is people in this thread seem to think 1 rip of a meth line and you are all the sudden on a downward spiral to a before and after photo after leaving a trail of destruction of everything and everyone around you.

that's just simply not even close to reality.

[Elli]

They all look so sad.

[pimpmaster9000]

It's not the drugs that kill them really its the prohibition.

When you make somebodys addiction illegal you make that person "illegal"...

I know fully functioning, 2000$ suit wearing, gym going, health food crazy heroin addicts. You would NEVER think such high profile business men are even on beer let alone heroin.

Now if the person does not have money, and the state pretends it has any sort of control over drugs , then the price is artificially raised, the underworld is rewarded with a lucrative business opportunity and 90% of crime is directly or indirectly created in this process (DEA statistics not mine)

the war on drugs is nothing more than cheap political points for "concerned parents" who think their retard children should die from ciggs and alcohol and not meth and that if it is "illegal" it, somehow, stops being a problem

i have never met a cop, with an IQ higher than a chimp, that agrees with the war on drugs...but lots of fat mothers and genetically poor fathers who worry about their doomed at birth offspring

fucking joke the whole story...

[Jel]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

And obesity. And Diabetes. Look at the numbers. Meth death (the OP's original point, to which I was responding) is so miniscule as compared to other causes of death that I could not find any current numbers using Google. That's my point. But then Jel responds that I'm saying Meth is good.

But carry on. And someone please post some of those Amy Winehouse photos. Oh wait - that was that other great menace, cocaine.

It was your brushing aside of meth being any kind of problem, or issue, that led to my quite obviously sarcastic response.

Here's the only question anyone needs to ask themselves: Would you be ok sitting there next to your kid (of whatever age), or spouse, while they try meth for the first time? Anyone who says they are - welp, I just flat out don't believe you

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

my point is people in this thread seem to think 1 rip of a meth line and you are all the sudden on a downward spiral to a before and after photo after leaving a trail of destruction of everything and everyone around you.

that's just simply not even close to reality.

I don't think anyone in this thread is saying that, aside from maybe the OP. Then again I skimmed most of it before the post I responded to, so I may be wrong

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

It's not the drugs that kill them really its the prohibition.

When you make somebodys addiction illegal you make that person "illegal"...

I know fully functioning, 2000$ suit wearing, gym going, health food crazy heroin addicts. You would NEVER think such high profile business men are even on beer let alone heroin.

Now if the person does not have money, and the state pretends it has any sort of control over drugs , then the price is artificially raised, the underworld is rewarded with a lucrative business opportunity and 90% of crime is directly or indirectly created in this process (DEA statistics not mine)

the war on drugs is nothing more than cheap political points for "concerned parents" who think their retard children should die from ciggs and alcohol and not meth and that if it is "illegal" it, somehow, stops being a problem

i have never met a cop, with an IQ higher than a chimp, that agrees with the war on drugs...but lots of fat mothers and genetically poor fathers who worry about their doomed at birth offspring

fucking joke the whole story...

so your argument that meth isn't harmful is you know heroin addicts who people can't tell they are heroin addicts? Also you know cops who think the war on drugs is a joke? Fascinating, truly.

Man that has me convinced, that is some of the finest arguments in the history of arguments. Have you ever witnessed someone on meth? or do you just like typing pretending you actually know things?

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

2 things.


my point is people in this thread seem to think 1 rip of a meth line and you are all the sudden on a downward spiral to a before and after photo after leaving a trail of destruction of everything and everyone around you.

that's just simply not even close to reality.

Which I think is pretty much the same view as the last part of what I said. If it wasn't just 'drugs are bad and you are a bad person if you try them' and instead education on drugs were based in reality then maybe things wouldn't be as bad. Just like, if you smoke one joint you aren't flying into reefer madness zone. It means when somebody is in danger of falling into the a dangerous zone with a drug that there isn't any real education on safe usage to help them.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Also you know cops who think the war on drugs is a joke? Fascinating, truly.

Man that has me convinced, that is some of the finest arguments in the history of arguments. Have you ever witnessed someone on meth? or do you just like typing pretending you actually know things?

You've never heard of LEAP?
Fascinating, truly.

http://www.leap.cc/

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jel

i don't think anyone in this thread is saying that, aside from maybe the op. Then again i skimmed most of it before the post i responded to, so i may be wrong

Originally Posted by crazy enough

every body knows that this path have a short end. I don't get it.

It is a coward way to kill yourself. You die in pieces, once at a time.

Originally Posted by xxxtrailers

you want just to try but can't stop anymore.

Originally Posted by seeandsee

they lope meth, meth loves them :p

Originally Posted by kane

many of the people who get to the point of using it are addicts to begin with

they never start out intending to kill themselves, but it doesn't take long and the drug has its claws in you and it is so bad that they say only about 10-15% of those who are addicted to the drug are ever able to fully kick it.

Originally Posted by mrbottomtooth

never heard of a functional meth addict.

Originally Posted by sly

live in methland and you may have a different opinion.

Users are more or less parasites. They don't only impact themselves, they impact everyone around them. They steal anything they can find in order to pay for their next fix. In fact i just had one try to rip me off this past weekend.

Cooking meth is extremely dangerous and can easily hurt innocent bystanders. A basement/barn blowing up due to a cook fucking up are not uncommon.

Now someone can go on to list a variety of other drug type users and claim they do the same thing, but they don't. Meth is completely different, for whatever reason, and destroys everything in its path.

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[Creatine]

[Jel]

Like I say - nobody aside from maybe the OP then I'm not seeing those quotes as stating 1 line and blam - obviously that's where the confusion lies (and that goes for pretty much all internet 'discussions' :D )

[dyna mo]

those posters spoke for themselves.

[whOaKemosabe]

who wants to see this shit? they do it to themselves why feel bad?

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Also you know cops who think the war on drugs is a joke? Fascinating, truly.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but watch this documentary, and it may change the way you think.

The House I Live In

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125653/

[ajrocks]

quick someone shoot these guys for a reality porn zombie site. I'm sure the content cost will be very low.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Not this fucking shit again.

[kane]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

a meme is not fact.

fact is, those are extreme cases and most importantly, that meme provides no proof meth is the reason for the before and afters........look at the one chick 3 down from the top right, her face has been burned, meth doesn't do that.


the simple fact is most people who have done meth continue to be functioning members of society and move on, don't get to that point represented in that meme.

meme's are cute though. in an internet cute kinda way

In regards to the girl with the burned face she is actually kind of a famous case. She was involved heavily with meth and ended up in a place where someone was cooking and it exploded. She has burns over most of her body now, but survived.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

In the case of heroin, there are entire towns in the UK that were pretty much ruined by it. The last time I was in Nottingham, parts of the town looked like a scene from the Walking Dead. Meth was starting to take its place when I left.

I don't spend enough time in small town America to know if that is echoed here and cities like LA have enough different corrosive factors that drugs just blend in with the others.

Of course there are functioning drug users. I think most of us agree that alcohol has been a bigger problem over time and appreciate the double standard that exists. That doesn't mean that other problems don't exist and that they shouldn't be handled.

I've come to think that the reason that weed gets labeled as a gateway drug isn't because it creates an addiction that is then transferred to other drugs. It is because once somebody does it and finds out that they have pretty much been lied to they then wonder what else has been a lie and try other things. Perhaps if we were more honest then the warnings of the truly dangerous would be more clear rather than muddled into a simple 'drugs are bad mmmkay' wag of the finger.

I have always thought of pot as a gateway by location drug. Addiction is addiction, it is a problem within the body. The odds are if you have it and you don't fight hard to control it will be addicted to something. There are people addicted to food, exercise, booze, drugs, gambling etc.

Several people I have known in my life who were drug addicts and got off the drugs all said the same thing. The key for them was being able to channel that addiction into something more positive.

There are tons of people who smoke a little weed now and then and live perfectly normal, productive lives. There are also a lot of people who smoke a lot of weed and still live normal, productive lives. The ones that have problems are the addicts and those who hang around other drug users when smoking. You end up in the proximity of other, harder, drugs and might be tempted to try them. I often compare it to being in a bar. If you drink beer and all you ever do is buy beer at the store and drink at home you may only ever drink beer. However, if you drink beer at a bar the temptation is there and the odds are one day you might try a shot of whiskey or something harder. The same idea, to me, plays out with pot. If you smoke a lot and hang out with others that do eventually you might be tempted to try something harder and if you are someone who suffers from addiction you could be in trouble.

Anyway, just my

[Robbie]

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.