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RandyRandy · 09-25-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.

You are 100% correct. And why is that? Why do Americans have that problem and not South Americans where there are no prescriptions for Vicoden, amongst other drugs, that are so abused in the USA?

I don't know the precise answer why, but my theories aren't pretty, and wouldn't be well-received on this board.

fogfever · 09-25-2013, 03:22 PM

what does blue meth do to people?

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Alcohol has killed more people and has ruined more lives than all illegal drugs combined.

Where is Dirty F when we need him to school such idiotic posters

Next time he will come here and say that junk food killed more people than meth. Yes,its true and what?
Tool.

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Something tells me the people in those pics aren't exactly productive members of society. Even if it doesn't kill them, it obviously makes them into useless walking corpses that leech off of society. When your face starts caving in and you are covered in scabs I doubt you are out working a 9 to 5 job. Never heard of a functional meth addict.

If you are meth addict and leach from society, you go to work camp, no leaching. Thats what I would do if I was a dictator. Not gonna happen in pussy world, unfortunately.

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.

You need to take in consideration number of users. Lets speak numbers, like PER 100.000 users how many deaths.
100.000 prescription users
100.000 meth or heroin or whatever users

Of course - prescription drugs is insane in USA nevertheless.

SuckOnThis · 09-25-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Where is Dirty F when we need him to school such idiotic posters

Next time he will come here and say that junk food killed more people than meth. Yes,its true and what?
Tool.

We've been through this before and we already established your problems with alcoholism. No need to get defensive.

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

We've been through this before and we already established your problems with alcoholism. No need to get defensive.

I drink maximum 3 days per month. Not an alcoholic by any stretch.
And I am not as you - I can look into things objectively, not through "defensive" prism.

SuckOnThis · 09-25-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

I drink maximum 3 days per month. Not an alcoholic by any stretch.
And I am not as you - I can look into things objectively, not through "defensive" prism.

Obviously.

But hey, once you sell that domain you've been trying to sell for 70 bucks for the past 6 months maybe you can afford to splurge a little.

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Obviously.

But hey, once you sell that domain you've been trying to sell for 70 bucks for the past 6 months maybe you can afford to splurge a little.

Congrats on your continued ad hominem. Somehow stupid people go that route when they fail to hold an argument. Its as a constant

SuckOnThis · 09-25-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Congrats on your continued ad hominem. Somehow stupid people go that route when they fail to hold an argument. Its as a constant

"Its as a constant"

And you call me stupid.

Must be hitting the bottle again.

mineistaken · 09-25-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

"Its as a constant"

And you call me stupid.

Must be hitting the bottle again.

Yes, I am stupid because I am not a native English speaker and do mistakes.
Strike 3

kane · 09-25-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.

Something that always amuses the hell out of me is when you have people who would never in a million years smoke pot or do any kind of drug and look down on anyone who does. Then they go get a tooth pulled or hurt themselves and get a prescription for pain killers and they not only take them with no problem they act like they have won the lottery and talk about how great they are.

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 08:12 PM

One thing is certain, any story with the word meth in it never has a good ending.

ErectMedia · 09-25-2013, 08:48 PM

Meth keeps $5 blowjobs part of the economy, if ya have the balls to insert

Crazy Enough · 09-25-2013, 10:55 PM

The root of the problem is the fucking Homo sapiens (Latin: "wise man") aka IMPERFECT.

Meth is bad, but all drugs are. I agree that prescription drugs are worst because they have a huge reach. A arge scale when you think about the entire world.

Addiction in general is what kills people. The "brain trig" that some people are born with is only one, so it's up to every person to be or not addicted to any drug, food, gambling, or anything. It depends on factors like environment, family, life history.

About weed, some people think that it's the first drug, a bridge to all the heavy stuff. I don't think so. Not everyone will test all drugs. I have an uncle who is addicted to cocaine for more than 20 years. He is 40 yo, and don't have any desire to change. Crazy, right?

Socks · 09-25-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.

How can that even be calculated with any accuracy? Many people who use prescription drugs are on a *lot* of different kinds. Did they all kill the person? Did they help? Hurt? I mean how can you single out which drug was the "killer drug" ?

And then there's lots of prescription deaths that are likely people selling them to others.

I don't take any myself, I don't like the idea of being attached to a drug like that (and I don't have any serious illnesses) but it seems fishy to just say "people are dying"... Are people also being helped?

I mean you can get high from gasoline, should we stop selling it? It causes serious brain damage. Is it Exxon's fault if someone gets addicted to their gasoline?

Paul · 09-26-2013, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

In the case of heroin, there are entire towns in the UK that were pretty much ruined by it. The last time I was in Nottingham, parts of the town looked like a scene from the Walking Dead. Meth was starting to take its place when I left.

I don't spend enough time in small town America to know if that is echoed here and cities like LA have enough different corrosive factors that drugs just blend in with the others.

Of course there are functioning drug users. I think most of us agree that alcohol has been a bigger problem over time and appreciate the double standard that exists. That doesn't mean that other problems don't exist and that they shouldn't be handled.

I've come to think that the reason that weed gets labeled as a gateway drug isn't because it creates an addiction that is then transferred to other drugs. It is because once somebody does it and finds out that they have pretty much been lied to they then wonder what else has been a lie and try other things. Perhaps if we were more honest then the warnings of the truly dangerous would be more clear rather than muddled into a simple 'drugs are bad mmmkay' wag of the finger.

With a lot of the hard drugs, what makes them so dangerous are the contaminants that the drugs are mixed with to create bigger quantities. There was a documentary on channel 4 about Heroin many years ago and the scientist was explaining how if all drugs where legalised then addicts could get pure quantities in smaller forms but most importantly because of this it would be of little harm to their health and they'd be able to maintain a normal lifestyle, and be slowly weened off the drugs over an extended period of time while still being a decent functioning member of society.

That's the real problem about prohibition, in the UK the most widely used drug is cannabis and it is truly terrifying the stuff that dealers put in it to make it weigh more. Brick powder, Fiberglass, when that shit gets into someones lungs it has the potential to burn holes in the lung tissue. There are cases now of heavy cannabis users in their early 20s who have lungs worse than people who have smoked heavily for 30+ years

But that's prohibition for you

Paul · 09-26-2013, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

It's not the drugs that kill them really its the prohibition.

When you make somebodys addiction illegal you make that person "illegal"...

I know fully functioning, 2000$ suit wearing, gym going, health food crazy heroin addicts. You would NEVER think such high profile business men are even on beer let alone heroin.

Now if the person does not have money, and the state pretends it has any sort of control over drugs

, then the price is artificially raised, the underworld is rewarded with a lucrative business opportunity and 90% of crime is directly or indirectly created in this process (DEA statistics not mine)

the war on drugs is nothing more than cheap political points for "concerned parents" who think their retard children should die from ciggs and alcohol and not meth

and that if it is "illegal" it, somehow, stops being a problem

i have never met a cop, with an IQ higher than a chimp, that agrees with the war on drugs...but lots of fat mothers and genetically poor fathers who worry about their doomed at birth offspring

fucking joke the whole story...

The Wire did a great job at explaining exactly who profits from an illegal drug trade, thank you David Simon!

Paul · 09-26-2013, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are leaving out the NUMBER ONE KILLER amongst drugs:

Prescription drugs.

Google it up for yourselves. More people dying every minute, every day of the year from prescription drugs than ALL recreational drugs (meth, heroin, coke, etc.) put TOGETHER.

And the drug dealer is your doctor and you don't get arrested. You just die.

7 Out Of Every 10 Americans Are On Prescription Drugs - The most commonly prescribed drugs were antibiotics, antidepressants and opioids

It's becoming the same in the UK, doctors are handing out Anti Depressants like they are smarties!

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

You are 100% correct. And why is that? Why do Americans have that problem and not South Americans where there are no prescriptions for Vicoden, amongst other drugs, that are so abused in the USA?

I don't know the precise answer why, but my theories aren't pretty, and wouldn't be well-received on this board.

Go for it!

Paul · 09-26-2013, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks

How can that even be calculated with any accuracy? Many people who use prescription drugs are on a *lot* of different kinds. Did they all kill the person? Did they help? Hurt? I mean how can you single out which drug was the "killer drug" ?

And then there's lots of prescription deaths that are likely people selling them to others

Well here are some statistics from the article I posted above

38,329 deaths in the USA were caused by drug overdoses. Deaths caused by prescription drugs included:

75.2% - opioids
29.4% - benzodiazepines
17.6% - antidepressants
7.8% - medications used for epilepsy and Parkinson's disease

In November, 2011, the CDC reported that more Americans died form prescription painkiller overdoses than all deaths from cocaine and heroin combined.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2013, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

so your argument that meth isn't harmful is you know heroin addicts who people can't tell they are heroin addicts? Also you know cops who think the war on drugs is a joke? Fascinating, truly.

Man that has me convinced, that is some of the finest arguments in the history of arguments. Have you ever witnessed someone on meth? or do you just like typing pretending you actually know things?

where did i say meth is not harmful? right i didnt...but the addicts with money look much much better than the ones without...has everything to do with food and lifestyle and product quality and consistency...

also has to do with acceptance in society...the high profile banker guys have no problem financing their habit and keeping their bodies relatively healthy and being a part of life...the poor prostitute is fucked in the ass and mind and pushed deeper and deeper in to a hole because she cant get a normal job ever or look normal because meth has ostracized her from society in general...its "illegal" to be an addict...not just by law...we push them down further, even though they are to blame for using in the first place...

its like outlawing diabetes and expecting the problem to solve itself...

reality: every druggie knows where to score every day on every fucking place on the planet even in high security prison

the high IQ cops, having a brain and common sense, clearly see that you can not flap your hands and fly or control drugs...

the only thing going on is cheap political points and making addiction illegal to reward criminals with a lucrative market...

as far as keeping us safe, the current laws on drugs are doing NOTHING

slapass · 09-26-2013, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

It's not the drugs that kill them really its the prohibition.

When you make somebodys addiction illegal you make that person "illegal"...

I know fully functioning, 2000$ suit wearing, gym going, health food crazy heroin addicts. You would NEVER think such high profile business men are even on beer let alone heroin.

fucking joke the whole story...

Any they will no longer function at the same level that got them the $2000 suits. If you have a bad drug habit but you have a lot of cash then the habit is not such a big thing until the cash runs out. Simple math not that the drug is less bad.

adultchatpay · 09-26-2013, 05:09 AM

Too much of anything will kill you!

Sarah_Jayne · 09-26-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul

With a lot of the hard drugs, what makes them so dangerous are the contaminants that the drugs are mixed with to create bigger quantities. There was a documentary on channel 4 about Heroin many years ago and the scientist was explaining how if all drugs where legalised then addicts could get pure quantities in smaller forms but most importantly because of this it would be of little harm to their health and they'd be able to maintain a normal lifestyle, and be slowly weened off the drugs over an extended period of time while still being a decent functioning member of society.

That's the real problem about prohibition, in the UK the most widely used drug is cannabis and it is truly terrifying the stuff that dealers put in it to make it weigh more. Brick powder, Fiberglass, when that shit gets into someones lungs it has the potential to burn holes in the lung tissue. There are cases now of heavy cannabis users in their early 20s who have lungs worse than people who have smoked heavily for 30+ years

But that's prohibition for you

I think I saw that documentary. I sometimes wondered how much the NHS would save just by not having to have so many methadone clinics. Then add in A&E visits for tainted product.

just a punk · 09-26-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XXXtrailers

I think it's like alcohol and nicotine. You want just to try but can't stop anymore.

Who told you that? I was smoking cigarettes since I was 16 y/o during more than 10 years (don't even know how many). Some day I woke up and understood that I'm nicotine dependent. I never wanted to be dependent from anything, so I just decided to stop smoking. Now I don't smoke cigarettes for many years. I can smoke a good cigar (which is a very different thing) once a few months. I don't smoke everyday, every week or even every month.

MrBottomTooth · 09-26-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

If life were only that easy - that we could recognize non-productive members of society so quickly! Look at sociopaths throughout history - usually the nice guy, next door, very quiet.

You don't need to look very hard to identify them when they look like an extra from the Walking Dead. I know a guy that is in his 40's and he had to have all his teeth pulled. The meth rotted them right out of his face.

MrBottomTooth · 09-26-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

those posters spoke for themselves.

You quoted me and I clearly said a meth "addict", not someone that tried it once.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-26-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Any they will no longer function at the same level that got them the $2000 suits. If you have a bad drug habit but you have a lot of cash then the habit is not such a big thing until the cash runs out. Simple math not that the drug is less bad.

they are fully functioning drug addicts...2000$ suits 100.000$ cars and careers that are going up not down...but they eat healthy, nobody knows they are using, they are respected members of their community and probably in better physical shape than most here...

ok we do not have meth here, but heroin is pretty fucking bad...

we kill the addicts more than they do themselves...sure they are the stupid mother fuckers who started using, but to err is human and we are all human...

we have no right to make somebody addiction illegal...we have no right to "banish" them from society and expect the problem to solve itself or to tighten already stupid laws...

Paul · 09-26-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

I think I saw that documentary. I sometimes wondered how much the NHS would save just by not having to have so many methadone clinics. Then add in A&E visits for tainted product.

1 in 3 A&E visits in the UK are alcohol related

I don't have the statistics for drug related visits but I completely agree, so much money wasted.

Lesa · 09-26-2013, 03:52 PM

Tjeezers · 09-26-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but watch this documentary, and it may change the way you think.

The House I Live In

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125653/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orAtTCKA6Qs

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