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keysync · 09-25-2013, 08:43 PM

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

I found this calculator to help narrow down what it's going to cost me.
I thought maybe some of you might want to know also.

noshit · 09-25-2013, 08:59 PM

Did it twice, I put in $0 and $12,000 for income. 2 adults and no kids.

Result on both:
Amount you pay for the premium: $9,228 per year
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $0 (which covers 0% of the overall premium)

How am I supposed to pay for that?

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 08:59 PM

"Enter annual income" Defined as "Business income, farm income, capital gain, other gains" and "Rental real estate, royalties, partnerships, S corporations, trusts, etc."

Under "deduct" there is no provision for interest expenses on gross income. If this is true a lot of people are going to get fucked by having grossly over inflated incomes.

noshit · 09-25-2013, 09:10 PM

The moral of the story:
Kaiser 'Family' hahaha! foundation is a Rockefeller minion and wants you sick rather than healthy. Or better yet, participate monetarily in your Death.
They don't give 2 rats asses about you

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 09:11 PM

I put my info in and then used various income levels. From $47,000 up the premiums are the same???

noshit · 09-25-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I put my info in and then used various income levels. From $47,000 up the premiums are the same???

I gotta pay over $9k and I make zero! What you bitchin about??! lol

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by noshit

Did it twice, I put in $0 and $12,000 for income. 2 adults and no kids.

Result on both:
Amount you pay for the premium: $9,228 per year
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $0 (which covers 0% of the overall premium)

How am I supposed to pay for that?

Want to have more fun add more kids..

Obama bent his followers over and didn't even grease them up.

2MuchMark · 09-25-2013, 09:20 PM

I don't see the problem.

If I enter $40,000 a year for a 3 person family (2 adults 1 child) all non smoking the cost is $6472 per year, and the government pays $3885 of this bill, leaving you to pay $2587 per year (6.47% of your income) or $215.58 per month for your entire family, until Junior is 25 years old. That works out to $71.86 per person per month.

What's wrong with that?

noshit · 09-25-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

I don't see the problem.

If I enter $40,000 a year for a 3 person family (2 adults 1 child) all non smoking the cost is $6472 per year, and the government pays $3885 of this bill, leaving you to pay $2587 per year (6.47% of your income) or $215.58 per month for your entire family, until Junior is 25 years old. That works out to $71.86 per person per month.

What's wrong with that?

ooooh 40k a yr... oooh non smoking... oooh 2 adults and 1 child... oooh ....Trendy!

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

I don't see the problem.

If I enter $40,000 a year for a 3 person family (2 adults 1 child) all non smoking the cost is $6472 per year, and the government pays $3885 of this bill, leaving you to pay $2587 per year (6.47% of your income) or $215.58 per month for your entire family, until Junior is 25 years old. That works out to $71.86 per person per month.

What's wrong with that?

"You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:"

kane · 09-25-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by noshit

I gotta pay over $9k and I make zero! What you bitchin about??! lol

What state are you in.

If I put in 2 people and 12K income for my state it says that you should get free health insurance through medicaid.

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 09:27 PM

Also ….. "You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to"

Where does the money for these subsidies come from? A family of 4 making $50,000 a year is eligible for a $5,769 credit. That's half the families in America.

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

What state are you in.

If I put in 2 people and 12K income for my state it says that you should get free health insurance through medicaid.

I did the same and got $3,353 as a single adult 1 child. With each kid it went up substantially. I'm in TN.

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 09:33 PM

"A Silver plan has an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest."

The remaining 30% would break most families if a serious illness occured.

So families will pay X thousands a year to cover 70% of expenses. Sounds like a suck ass plan to me.

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kane · 09-25-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Also ?.. "You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to"

Where does the money for these subsidies come from? A family of 4 making $50,000 a year is eligible for a $5,769 credit. That's half the families in America.

The money, of course, comes from the government. If you believe the congressional budget it won't increase the deficit because the increased costs of expanded medicaid and the subsidies will be offset by cuts and trims to medicare and other areas of medicaid which supposedly will no longer be needed because they are replaced by Obamacare.

Of course, we are talking about the government which seems to never really cut spending.

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 09:45 PM

Everyone should post their results for their demographics. Obviously there's nothing fair about this law just by the few posts here. Maybe there's even more hidden? Low income and low population areas paying more %? etc, etc.

kane · 09-25-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

"A Silver plan has an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest."

The remaining 30% would break most families if a serious illness occured.

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There is an out of pocket max for most of them. For example the one they show on my page is a silver package with the max out of pocket of $12,500. That is still a lot of money, but if you are talking about $200,000 or $300,000 hospital bill it is a lot less.

noshit · 09-25-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

What state are you in.

If I put in 2 people and 12K income for my state it says that you should get free health insurance through medicaid.

I'm in the constitutional state of disbelief. Especially when it comes to tyrannical government pushing Rockefeller "Deathcare".

L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

There is an out of pocket max for most of them. For example the one they show on my page is a silver package with the max out of pocket of $12,500. That is still a lot of money, but if you are talking about $200,000 or $300,000 hospital bill it is a lot less.

Thanks for pointing that out! Makes a big difference

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L-Pink · 09-25-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by noshit

I'm in the constitutional state of disbelief. Especially when it comes to tyrannical government pushing Rockefeller "Deathcare".

kane · 09-25-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Everyone should post their results for their demographics. Obviously there's nothing fair about this law just by the few posts here. Maybe there's even more hidden? Low income and low population areas paying more %? etc, etc.

It seems to really be based on your state, its willingness to expand medicaid and the amount of competition in the area.

Areas with more people may likely get better deals because there will be more competition.

mikesouth · 09-25-2013, 10:04 PM

OK one thing you have to pay attention to...if your income is so low that you qualify for medicaid in the state you live in you get NO discount. The graduated premiums start at the the medicaid cut off

for example in GA if you make 10K per year you pay full price for your policy if you make 12K a year you pay about 250 dollars a year for your policy.

Im thinking theres money in a site that helps people understand all of this....

and the death panels are bullshit you buy the insurance from the insurance company of your choice and it works just like it does now.

Im not saying Im an Obamacare fan but it could turn out that way only time will tell...what i do know is I will get way better insurance for half what I am paying now from the same insurance company.

One thing to remember is that Obama didnt really write this law the insurance company lobby did because they saw single payer looming very closely...think about it, The USA is the only major health insurance market left....if we go universal healthcare Kaiser, United Healthcare, bluecross/blue shield Cygna...all outta business.

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

It seems to really be based on your state, its willingness to expand medicaid and the amount of competition in the area.

Areas with more people may likely get better deals because there will be more competition.

But.. As I said in another thread my girlfriend got kicked off of what's called Tenncare (TN's medicare) because of my income.. There's no doubt that even after this goes into effect this will not change. Which means she (I) has (have) to cover her premium.

mikesouth · 09-25-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

But.. As I said in another thread my girlfriend got kicked off of what's called Tenncare (TN's medicare) because of my income.. There's no doubt that even after this goes into effect this will not change. Which means she (I) have to cover her premium.

That should not be true unless you and your girlfriend got legally married, Im unfamiliar with Tenncare but I dont think your income has any bearing on hers unless you are married.

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

That should not be true unless you and your girlfriend got legally married, Im unfamiliar with Tenncare but I dont think your income has any bearing on hers unless you are married.

Incorrect.. Benefits are based on household income.....

mikesouth · 09-25-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Incorrect.. Benefits are based on household income.....

well then you will like Obamacare because that ISNT

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

well then you will like Obamacare because that ISNT

Incorrect. She doesn't qualify for TennCare because of my income just as before so she doesn't get the benefit in turn she (I) pay the full premium.

We could live in seperate houses and she would be fine considering she is legally disabled (but doesn't accept disability) that would solve the insurance problem but how does she live? I guess I pay the premium for pussy?

mikesouth · 09-25-2013, 10:45 PM

That makes no sense but I have a step brother who lives in TN and works for state farm I will get an answer

onwebcam · 09-25-2013, 10:51 PM

Medicare/caid is based on household income. It doesn't matter who it is in the household, like anything, if you lie you are taking the chance.. She was booted from TennCare>medicare that she really needs because of my income.. Because she lives in my house..

kane · 09-25-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Medicare/caid is based on household income. It doesn't matter who it is in the household, like anything, if you lie you are taking the chance.. She was booted from TennCare>medicare that she really needs because of my income.. Because she lives in my house..

It potentially will come down to whether or not your state choose to expand its medicare program.

This is directly from the website listed in the first post:

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In states that opt out of expanding Medicaid, some people making below this amount will still be eligible for Medicaid, some will be eligible for subsidized coverage through Marketplaces, and others will not be eligible for subsidies.

So it is possible that even if the state of TN declines to give her medicaid she might be able to get it on a federal level.

It also says:

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Household income includes incomes of the taxpayer, spouse, and dependents.

If that is true she should be able to get coverage.

kane · 09-25-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Incorrect. She doesn't qualify for TennCare because of my income just as before so she doesn't get the benefit in turn she (I) pay the full premium.

We could live in seperate houses and she would be fine considering she is legally disabled (but doesn't accept disability) that would solve the insurance problem but how does she live? I guess I pay the premium for pussy?

Why will she not accept disability? If she is disabled that would solve most of her problems.

onwebcam · 09-26-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Why will she not accept disability? If she is disabled that would solve most of her problems.

She has lived her whole life without accepting it, trying to be normal.. But as she gets older her "essentual tremors" are taking its toll on her body. She has to have special cups and even silverware to just eat and drink now.

mikesouth · 09-26-2013, 12:13 AM

she will accept tenncare but not disability....ok I get you are just bitching about something you dont like...thats fine ya got that right Ill informed Americans bitch every day about things they dont understand

The fact is she will be able to have more affordable health care starting Jan 1 and you know it. Your moving in had nothing to do with anything, you could have easily gotten around any red tape issues by not claiming that as your residence if what you claim about household income is true.

Im no fan or republicans or of democrats but I am less of a fan of ignorance.

onwebcam · 09-26-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

she will accept tenncare but not disability....ok I get you are just bitching about something you dont like...thats fine ya got that right Ill informed Americans bitch every day about things they dont understand

The fact is she will be able to have more affordable health care starting Jan 1 and you know it. Your moving in had nothing to do with anything, you could have easily gotten around any red tape issues by not claiming that as your residence if what you claim about household income is true.

Im no fan or republicans or of democrats but I am less of a fan of ignorance.

Yes, she has a disability but has always tried to work and be normal... Me moving in? lol She moved in. How could she afford to live on her own? Have you spent a day in a hospital lately? A few days alone without insurance could bankrupt you. Hell they tried to take my shit because of her medical bills. This is going to help how?

thegreatestporn · 09-26-2013, 12:55 AM

Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to the free healthcare everyone was talking about 2 years ago. My wife and I are unemployed. I can barely make car payments I don't want to (cause I got a new car when I had a job, never again) and rent and utilities. What makes them think I'll pay for health insurance? This will be a fiasco. Also, I have no job here, make $100-$200 from online sales every few monthes. Why should I stay in America?

kane · 09-26-2013, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

She has lived her whole life without accepting it, trying to be normal.. But as she gets older her "essentual tremors" are taking its toll on her body. She has to have special cups and even silverware to just eat and drink now.

I know she wants to be somewhat independent and normal, but at times you have swallow your pride and do what is best for yourself. If trying to be independent and normal is driving her into the ground she should take the disability. It is there for people just like her and if she has worked in the past she has paid into it. She isn't trying to cheat the system, there is nothing to feel bad about.

It sounds like doing this solves many of her problems.

kane · 09-26-2013, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thegreatestporn

Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to the free healthcare everyone was talking about 2 years ago. My wife and I are unemployed. I can barely make car payments I don't want to (cause I got a new car when I had a job, never again) and rent and utilities. What makes them think I'll pay for health insurance? This will be a fiasco. Also, I have no job here, make $100-$200 from online sales every few monthes. Why should I stay in America?

If you are both unemployed your income level will likely be so low that you will get free insurance.

onwebcam · 09-26-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thegreatestporn

Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to the free healthcare everyone was talking about 2 years ago. My wife and I are unemployed. I can barely make car payments I don't want to (cause I got a new car when I had a job, never again) and rent and utilities. What makes them think I'll pay for health insurance? This will be a fiasco. Also, I have no job here, make $100-$200 from online sales every few monthes. Why should I stay in America?

There is no free lunch. Don't you remember that prison meal you got in school that cost $.25 to make that your parents paid a $1 for?

PornoMonster · 09-26-2013, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by keysync

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

I found this calculator to help narrow down what it's going to cost me.
I thought maybe some of you might want to know also.

Cost? But for what Coverage??

Does your state already list the coverage plans?

PornoMonster · 09-26-2013, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

I don't see the problem.

If I enter $40,000 a year for a 3 person family (2 adults 1 child) all non smoking the cost is $6472 per year, and the government pays $3885 of this bill, leaving you to pay $2587 per year (6.47% of your income) or $215.58 per month for your entire family, until Junior is 25 years old. That works out to $71.86 per person per month.

What's wrong with that?

Who knows, what are you paying $215 a month for????

PornoMonster · 09-26-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

There is an out of pocket max for most of them. For example the one they show on my page is a silver package with the max out of pocket of $12,500. That is still a lot of money, but if you are talking about $200,000 or $300,000 hospital bill it is a lot less.

If the bill is 200-300K file bankruptcy.

thegreatestporn · 09-26-2013, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

There is no free lunch. Don't you remember that prison meal you got in school that cost $.25 to make that your parents paid a $1 for?

My wife's wasn't. It was free. Her family was in that much poverty. I met her at work, when we had jobs. She was trying to get out of that and did. Until now. Now what? Pay the fine for no insurance? Seems cheaper. We're close to giving up on California at the least, if not the country. It's a bummer too. I have friends in countries less reputable then ours but then we deal with the crime.

kane · 09-26-2013, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

If the bill is 200-300K file bankruptcy.

In theory, this is why they are forcing the change and not putting caps on the amount they can pay out and capping your out of pocket expenses.

$12,500 would bankrupt many people, but for others they could pay that off over time. even if there was no coverage cap, but you had to pay 20% of 200-300K that would bankrupt most people.

I think they are trying to help people avoid bankruptcy like that. As we are right now most people are one bad illness or injury for bankruptcy and financial ruin. These cap changes can help that.

kane · 09-26-2013, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Who knows, what are you paying $215 a month for????

That is the million dollar question. I have seen some numbers that say most silver plans will cover about 80% of your medical costs, but I haven't seen anything that actually breaks down exactly what it will cover in regards to doctor visits, prescriptions etc.

For someone like me the prescription question is a big on. I have asthma and the medication can be expensive ($400+ per month) I can buy it online for about $150 per month, but then I have to wait for it to come in the mail etc. It would be nice to be able to just drive down the street to my local pharmacy and buy it there.

Phoenix · 09-26-2013, 03:10 AM

Where are the US tax dollars spent?

You guys pay more in taxes then anyone after you factor in state municipal etc

None of it can be spent on some quality healthcare?

kane · 09-26-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Where are the US tax dollars spent?

You guys pay more in taxes then anyone after you factor in state municipal etc

None of it can be spent on some quality healthcare?

Are you crazy?!?!! We need billion dollar jet fighters and high end weaponry. We have countries to invade.

There are nine guys in a cave in some god foresaken country that want to do us harm, we must spend a trillion dollars to get them.

keysync · 09-26-2013, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Are you crazy?!?!! We need billion dollar jet fighters and high end weaponry. We have countries to invade.

There are nine guys in a cave in some god foresaken country that want to do us harm, we must spend a trillion dollars to get them.

This would be funny if it wasn't so true...

arock10 · 09-26-2013, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Medicare/caid is based on household income. It doesn't matter who it is in the household, like anything, if you lie you are taking the chance.. She was booted from TennCare>medicare that she really needs because of my income.. Because she lives in my house..

Tennessee is one of the more backwards conservative states. Move somewhere more liberal that doesn't have a state government that hates the poor?

It's nuts that's you'll complain a bout obamacare but she won't just get on disability. Its like complaining about being poor but refusing to use medicade a program targeted at aiding the poor.

Nothing worse then poor ignorant republicans voting against their self interests because of some conspiracy theory delusion

arock10 · 09-26-2013, 05:40 AM

Stop repeating talking points given to you by the Koch brothers

purecane · 09-26-2013, 05:49 AM

mine said the premium would be 11,426$ with a government subside of 10,826$....i would pay 600$ per year.

THANX OBAMA...the rest of you suckers can pay my health insurance with your tax dollars.......

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	"A Silver plan has an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest." The remaining 30% would break most families if a serious illness occured. So families will pay X thousands a year to cover 70% of expenses. Sounds like a suck ass plan to me. . Last edited by L-Pink; 09-25-2013 at 09:47 PM..

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onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 27,664	Everyone should post their results for their demographics. Obviously there's nothing fair about this law just by the few posts here. Maybe there's even more hidden? Low income and low population areas paying more %? etc, etc. __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete. Last edited by onwebcam; 09-25-2013 at 09:47 PM..

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	OK one thing you have to pay attention to...if your income is so low that you qualify for medicaid in the state you live in you get NO discount. The graduated premiums start at the the medicaid cut off for example in GA if you make 10K per year you pay full price for your policy if you make 12K a year you pay about 250 dollars a year for your policy. Im thinking theres money in a site that helps people understand all of this.... and the death panels are bullshit you buy the insurance from the insurance company of your choice and it works just like it does now. Im not saying Im an Obamacare fan but it could turn out that way only time will tell...what i do know is I will get way better insurance for half what I am paying now from the same insurance company. One thing to remember is that Obama didnt really write this law the insurance company lobby did because they saw single payer looming very closely...think about it, The USA is the only major health insurance market left....if we go universal healthcare Kaiser, United Healthcare, bluecross/blue shield Cygna...all outta business. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-25-2013, 08:59 PM	#2
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	Did it twice, I put in $0 and $12,000 for income. 2 adults and no kids. Result on both: Amount you pay for the premium: $9,228 per year You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $0 (which covers 0% of the overall premium) How am I supposed to pay for that?

09-25-2013, 09:10 PM	#4
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	The moral of the story: Kaiser 'Family' hahaha! foundation is a Rockefeller minion and wants you sick rather than healthy. Or better yet, participate monetarily in your Death. They don't give 2 rats asses about you

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	I put my info in and then used various income levels. From $47,000 up the premiums are the same???

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Also ….. "You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to" Where does the money for these subsidies come from? A family of 4 making $50,000 a year is eligible for a $5,769 credit. That's half the families in America.

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onwebcam Fake Nick 1.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rent free, your head Posts: 27,664	Medicare/caid is based on household income. It doesn't matter who it is in the household, like anything, if you lie you are taking the chance.. She was booted from TennCare>medicare that she really needs because of my income.. Because she lives in my house.. __________________ PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF..... ██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete. Last edited by onwebcam; 09-25-2013 at 10:54 PM..

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	she will accept tenncare but not disability....ok I get you are just bitching about something you dont like...thats fine ya got that right Ill informed Americans bitch every day about things they dont understand The fact is she will be able to have more affordable health care starting Jan 1 and you know it. Your moving in had nothing to do with anything, you could have easily gotten around any red tape issues by not claiming that as your residence if what you claim about household income is true. Im no fan or republicans or of democrats but I am less of a fan of ignorance. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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thegreatestporn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 516	Whoa whoa whoa. What happened to the free healthcare everyone was talking about 2 years ago. My wife and I are unemployed. I can barely make car payments I don't want to (cause I got a new car when I had a job, never again) and rent and utilities. What makes them think I'll pay for health insurance? This will be a fiasco. Also, I have no job here, make $100-$200 from online sales every few monthes. Why should I stay in America? __________________ CrakRevenue \| WebCamWiz - Free WebCam Whitelabel \|

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arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Stop repeating talking points given to you by the Koch brothers __________________ Sup

09-26-2013, 05:49 AM	#50
purecane Annakin Skywalker Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: megaminds' secret lair Posts: 1,324	mine said the premium would be 11,426$ with a government subside of 10,826$....i would pay 600$ per year. THANX OBAMA...the rest of you suckers can pay my health insurance with your tax dollars....... __________________ [email protected]