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Old 08-20-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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Guardian says Britain made it destroy Snowden material

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...97J09D20130820


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Old 08-20-2013, 11:14 AM   #2
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Somebody has backups.
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i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.
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Somebody has backups.
you hope so but it is worrying that a government is controlling the press like this
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #5
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did the government henchmen bring their own harddrive shredder, seems odd that the guardian would have a hd shredder where the machines were.

goverbment spook: hey, we need you to shred the hard drives you tell us have this particular data.

guardian guy: ok.

seems off.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:31 AM   #6
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They just released the documents the other day, and it was so lame it was comical.

Now they are claiming that they haven't released all of the information, but instead they just wanted to tease us... for another two months? To keep us in suspense? But the British government magically destroyed the hard drives when the reporter's gay lover attempted to secretly leave the country with the hard drives?

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i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.
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yes, let's trust the media more than the government and not ask questions.

makes sense.
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yes, let's trust the media more than the government and not ask questions.

makes sense.
its the same story as all the others, concerning the government preventing information being released
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its the same story as all the others, concerning the government preventing information being released
so no questions can be asked, got it.
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this also is not representative of my views, it's more showing you don't understand my views or choose to misrepresent them here.

either way.
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so no questions can be asked, got it.
i know you're being sarcastic, which in this case, is highly ironic.

yes, no questions can be asked, because it would be illegal for them to talk about it in the first place.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:29 PM   #13
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Yep. In America anyway, the 1st amendment is there so that our press CAN get secret information and show it to the public if it's in the public interest. So in fact we do hold the press in a more trustworthy light than the government. It's basically foundational to our democracy. State run media was one of the reasons the USSR was ALWAYS said to be evil when I was a child. That was what "the commies" did. Oversaw every story and killed any story that made them look bad or corrupt. Our free press is the thing that makes us better than them. Right?
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this also is not representative of my views, it's more showing you don't understand my views or choose to misrepresent them here.

either way.
no that's my personal feeling about your 'views'.
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no that's my personal feeling about your 'views'.
whatever works for you.

i find it important to question authority figures, you find it important to question gfyers.

makes sense.
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whatever works for you.

i find it important to question authority figures, you find it important to question gfyers.

makes sense.
to clarify, what you have said here insinuates you don't question any authority figure at all.

unless you think a newspaper is 'authority'. lol.
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not sure how to explain to you the power of the media, but going by your reaction to this story, you're just now learning how the government works the manipulates, that's cute.

you might also spend a second and actually read my posts, you will see i am asking questions re: the media.

that's makes you uncomfortable, i get that.
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not sure how to explain to you the power of the media, but going by your reaction to this story, you're just now learning how the government works the manipulates, that's cute.

you might also spend a second and actually read my posts, you will see i am asking questions re: the media.

that's makes you uncomfortable, i get that.
so in a comparison between the government and the media, in this case a newspaper, the definition of 'authority' is the newspaper?

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try and understand this graphical representation of who controls what news you get

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try and understand this graphical representation of who controls what news you get

one side was the media, one side was the government.

in your words, one of these is 'the authority' you have been speaking of.

can you clarify again which authority that would be?
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the op asked for people's thoughts on the subject, i gave mine, maybe you can give yours instead of trying to stifle mine.
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one side was the media, one side was the government.

in your words, one of these is 'the authority' you have been speaking of.

can you clarify again which authority that would be?
you do realize there can be more than 1 authority in the world, well, maybe you don't....


there can be more than 1 authority in the world that we need to ask questions of.

more importantly, we'd all be better served by allowing people to question authority instead of challenging them for it.
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you do realize there can be more than 1 authority in the world, well, maybe you don't....


there can be more than 1 authority in the world that we need to ask questions of.

more importantly, we'd all be better served by allowing people to question authority instead of challenging them for it.
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gotta gfy poster thinks he's the thought police. too funny.

have fun with that.
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i'd wager that richard was the guy in high school that pointed his finger and laughed at the other kids who asked questions in class.
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i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.
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did the government henchmen bring their own harddrive shredder, seems odd that the guardian would have a hd shredder where the machines were.

goverbment spook: hey, we need you to shred the hard drives you tell us have this particular data.

guardian guy: ok.

seems off.


apparently, just being inquisitive and stating the story doesn't sound right/seems off is enough to make this personal.

good ole gfy!
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i'd wager that richard was the guy in high school that pointed his finger and laughed at the other kids who asked questions in class.
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apparently, just being inquisitive and stating the story doesn't sound right/seems off is enough to make this personal.

good ole gfy!
you really are off the deep end
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you really are off the deep end
you are the one that avoided the op topic and chose to make the topic about my asking non-judgemental questions like, "seems off", and "something doesn't make sense here".

and i am the one who is really off the deep end.

got it.
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