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  • scottybuzz
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    • May 2006
    • 14799

    #1

    Guardian says Britain made it destroy Snowden material

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...97J09D20130820


    Thoughts?
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  • Captain Kawaii
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2007
    • 6748

    #2
    Somebody has backups.

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    • dyna mo
      just a fucking jerk
      • Dec 2008
      • 68184

      #3
      i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.

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      • scottybuzz
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • May 2006
        • 14799

        #4
        Originally posted by Captain Kawaii
        Somebody has backups.
        you hope so but it is worrying that a government is controlling the press like this
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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          did the government henchmen bring their own harddrive shredder, seems odd that the guardian would have a hd shredder where the machines were.

          goverbment spook: hey, we need you to shred the hard drives you tell us have this particular data.

          guardian guy: ok.

          seems off.

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          • Rochard
            Jägermeister Test Pilot
            • Dec 2001
            • 75733

            #6
            They just released the documents the other day, and it was so lame it was comical.

            Now they are claiming that they haven't released all of the information, but instead they just wanted to tease us... for another two months? To keep us in suspense? But the British government magically destroyed the hard drives when the reporter's gay lover attempted to secretly leave the country with the hard drives?

            Sure thing.
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            Brooklyn, NY

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            • _Richard_
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              • Oct 2006
              • 30989

              #7
              Originally posted by dyna mo
              i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.

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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #8
                yes, let's trust the media more than the government and not ask questions.

                makes sense.

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                • _Richard_
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30989

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  yes, let's trust the media more than the government and not ask questions.

                  makes sense.
                  its the same story as all the others, concerning the government preventing information being released

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184

                    #10
                    Originally posted by _Richard_
                    its the same story as all the others, concerning the government preventing information being released
                    so no questions can be asked, got it.

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #11
                      Originally posted by _Richard_
                      this also is not representative of my views, it's more showing you don't understand my views or choose to misrepresent them here.

                      either way.

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                      • _Richard_
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30989

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        so no questions can be asked, got it.
                        i know you're being sarcastic, which in this case, is highly ironic.

                        yes, no questions can be asked, because it would be illegal for them to talk about it in the first place.

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                        • Tom_PM
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 16443

                          #13
                          Yep. In America anyway, the 1st amendment is there so that our press CAN get secret information and show it to the public if it's in the public interest. So in fact we do hold the press in a more trustworthy light than the government. It's basically foundational to our democracy. State run media was one of the reasons the USSR was ALWAYS said to be evil when I was a child. That was what "the commies" did. Oversaw every story and killed any story that made them look bad or corrupt. Our free press is the thing that makes us better than them. Right?
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                          • _Richard_
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 30989

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            this also is not representative of my views, it's more showing you don't understand my views or choose to misrepresent them here.

                            either way.
                            no that's my personal feeling about your 'views'.

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #15
                              Originally posted by _Richard_
                              no that's my personal feeling about your 'views'.
                              whatever works for you.

                              i find it important to question authority figures, you find it important to question gfyers.

                              makes sense.

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                              • _Richard_
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 30989

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                whatever works for you.

                                i find it important to question authority figures, you find it important to question gfyers.

                                makes sense.
                                to clarify, what you have said here insinuates you don't question any authority figure at all.

                                unless you think a newspaper is 'authority'. lol.

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                                • dyna mo
                                  just a fucking jerk
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 68184

                                  #17
                                  not sure how to explain to you the power of the media, but going by your reaction to this story, you're just now learning how the government works the manipulates, that's cute.

                                  you might also spend a second and actually read my posts, you will see i am asking questions re: the media.

                                  that's makes you uncomfortable, i get that.

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                                  • _Richard_
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                                    • Oct 2006
                                    • 30989

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                    not sure how to explain to you the power of the media, but going by your reaction to this story, you're just now learning how the government works the manipulates, that's cute.

                                    you might also spend a second and actually read my posts, you will see i am asking questions re: the media.

                                    that's makes you uncomfortable, i get that.
                                    so in a comparison between the government and the media, in this case a newspaper, the definition of 'authority' is the newspaper?

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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #19
                                      try and understand this graphical representation of who controls what news you get

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                                      • _Richard_
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 30989

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                        try and understand this graphical representation of who controls what news you get

                                        one side was the media, one side was the government.

                                        in your words, one of these is 'the authority' you have been speaking of.

                                        can you clarify again which authority that would be?

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #22
                                            the op asked for people's thoughts on the subject, i gave mine, maybe you can give yours instead of trying to stifle mine.

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                                            • HomerSimpson
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                                              • Sep 2005
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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                one side was the media, one side was the government.

                                                in your words, one of these is 'the authority' you have been speaking of.

                                                can you clarify again which authority that would be?
                                                you do realize there can be more than 1 authority in the world, well, maybe you don't....


                                                there can be more than 1 authority in the world that we need to ask questions of.

                                                more importantly, we'd all be better served by allowing people to question authority instead of challenging them for it.

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                                                • _Richard_
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                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                  • 30989

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  you do realize there can be more than 1 authority in the world, well, maybe you don't....


                                                  there can be more than 1 authority in the world that we need to ask questions of.

                                                  more importantly, we'd all be better served by allowing people to question authority instead of challenging them for it.

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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184

                                                    #26
                                                    gotta gfy poster thinks he's the thought police. too funny.

                                                    have fun with that.

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                                                    • dyna mo
                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                      • 68184

                                                      #27
                                                      i'd wager that richard was the guy in high school that pointed his finger and laughed at the other kids who asked questions in class.

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                        i think something doesn't sound right here. i read the article, there was nothing described in the visit that would keep anyone at the guardian from saying fuck right off, get a warrant.
                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                        did the government henchmen bring their own harddrive shredder, seems odd that the guardian would have a hd shredder where the machines were.

                                                        goverbment spook: hey, we need you to shred the hard drives you tell us have this particular data.

                                                        guardian guy: ok.

                                                        seems off.


                                                        apparently, just being inquisitive and stating the story doesn't sound right/seems off is enough to make this personal.

                                                        good ole gfy!

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                                                        • scottybuzz
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • May 2006
                                                          • 14799

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                          i'd wager that richard was the guy in high school that pointed his finger and laughed at the other kids who asked questions in class.
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                                                          • _Richard_
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2006
                                                            • 30989

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                            apparently, just being inquisitive and stating the story doesn't sound right/seems off is enough to make this personal.

                                                            good ole gfy!
                                                            you really are off the deep end

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                                                            • wehateporn
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                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                              • 27176

                                                              #31
                                                              Agent Snowden is now in enemy headquarters providing Putin with disinformation, success!

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                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                • 68184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                                you really are off the deep end
                                                                you are the one that avoided the op topic and chose to make the topic about my asking non-judgemental questions like, "seems off", and "something doesn't make sense here".

                                                                and i am the one who is really off the deep end.

                                                                got it.

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