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Old 02-26-2003, 05:56 PM   #1
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I think ALL paysites should close down right now!

People can get it for free!

http://www.xxxamateurcity.com/bustyb...londeanal.html

http://www.hardcorebabes4u.com/busty...ustydildo.html

http://www.1inchnipples.com/armypick...mypickupc.html

http://www.goddess-exotica.com/bigti...latinabdh.html

Now we know why this account has crappy converts.
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Old 02-26-2003, 06:37 PM   #2
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No, it's all unoriginal content with fat bitches not doing a good job of faking it.



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Old 02-26-2003, 07:05 PM   #3
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Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:08 PM   #4
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I dont get it..but my best guess is...this content can be found in adult.com paysites and he ripped it and put it on galleries? o_0.




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Old 02-26-2003, 07:12 PM   #6
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Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...
I think he was making a point for MANY people around here, I seriously doubt his intentions were just to dog the guy... IF that were the case, he could have posted all his info and called him out by name....
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I dont get it..but my best guess is...this content can be found in adult.com paysites and he ripped it and put it on galleries? o_0.




http://ctc.amateurpages.com/cgi-bin/...s.cgi?21525278
Hmmm..if that's true, then I guess Lensman was simply making a point...as obscure as it may have been...
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:18 PM   #8
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Is that AP content? If so I can see why you're pissed, but if its bought and paid for content I don't see the problem.

He is following "the rules"
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Hmmmm, the CTC stats don't show tracks anymore? How do AP click affiliates tell if their conversions are good or not?
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:22 PM   #10
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I agree with Lens on any of the 3 points he could be making here.
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:24 PM   #11
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I agree with Lens on any of the 3 points he could be making here.
Ok second guess is the uber hardcore images.

and thats the correct answer
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I think it is this.. .



Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.


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Old 02-26-2003, 07:28 PM   #13
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Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.


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amen, if you show hardcore fuck it up, blur the hell out of it, make it grany tell them prettier pics in the members area etc.. *shakes his head* But im guilty of showing alot more hardcore then I should so I dont really have room to talk.
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I think it is this.. .



Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.


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But, still, publically exposing one of your own business partners (affiliates) remains tasteless and without class (if he is not cheating)

Plus, if the surfer is still clicking thru on the AP Pic, after seeing the gallery, then obviously he is looking for more, and has not yet been satisfied. So, where does the fault of a non-conversion lay...
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:29 PM   #15
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I'm not gonna argue about this post though.

Keep the hardcore images inside the paysite, dont be giving that shit out free.

And it's Lensmen's board, he can do or say whatever he wants, so you cant question him reguarding his own opinion in such cases... well you can but you wont win :c)
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:31 PM   #16
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Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.


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I agree I tried to push this point many times.

plus there really isn't any text on there that would get me to click thru
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:34 PM   #17
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Hmmm...in my part of the world, we have a thing called email. If I had a affiliate who was not cheating but who I thought could better his sales technique...let's see, what would I do...would I point a finger at him and say to the world...look what this idiot is doing or would I send an email to him and say..."You are a valued partner..here's my suggestions"...Yep choice 2 has it.
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:37 PM   #18
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actually i sell 3 times better on gallerys with
real nudity and hardcore then no pussy pics

maybe thats just me....
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these are 2 of our galleries I think you need to tease them to were they want to see more not blow the load for free.
and have a great trial they can't refuse.
thats why we convert TGP traffic 1/40

But I guess everyone has there own way of doing things
http://www.teenbadgirls.com/tgp/tbg5/affiliates/?102395

http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395
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Hmmm...in my part of the world, we have a thing called email. If I had a affiliate who was not cheating but who I thought could better his sales technique...let's see, what would I do...would I point a finger at him and say to the world...look what this idiot is doing or would I send an email to him and say..."You are a valued partner..here's my suggestions"...Yep choice 2 has it.
It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?
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Is this the only indian babe in porn?
http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395

She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:51 PM   #22
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It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?
jack off for free?
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She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
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I guess I need to add others. LOL but it still kicks ass because of Porn4abuck.

But back to lensman As sponsors we should try to censor it some it would just benefit all of us. Maybe they will Listen to you
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Yeah but what sponsor is going to have the cojones to say this? Who will be the first to say it will cancel accounts for being promoted on a page with hardcore in an unprotected area? I know of a couple of sites that said no tgp traffic in the terms but they didn't uphold that.
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Yeah but what sponsor is going to have the cojones to say this? Who will be the first to say it will cancel accounts for being promoted on a page with hardcore in an unprotected area? I know of a couple of sites that said no tgp traffic in the terms but they didn't uphold that.
It will probably never happen. but I don't understand why webmasters want to give it all away for free.

If you can spank to it. whats the point
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She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
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Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?
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It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?
wasn't that the reason why TGP2 started a while back ?
i'd say about 50% or more of TGP's list Hardcore galleries,
no wonder i have seen so many ppl post topics like
"i'm loosing $$ with my tgp"
"tgp traffic sux"
"how do i make $$ with tgp"

you get the point....
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She's probably a West Indian-Indian. They have a lot of Indian babes that look like that from Trinidad and the other islands that are VERY Christian.
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why did you post my galleries Lensman!

now everyone will copy me... DAMNIT!
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Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?
Fuck if I know but it is kinda funny since she is in porn
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why did you post my galleries Lensman!

now everyone will copy me... DAMNIT!
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It will probably never happen. but I don't understand why webmasters want to give it all away for free.

If you can spank to it. whats the point

But TGPs... like the hun are there to please their surfers...

Would the Hun list you if you had on 15 pics... 1 tits shot as the 15th pic? Would people come back to his TGP if all the galleries were like that? Teasing can lead to frustration if its on a regular basis!
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I've always thought of the pix should lead up to the site yer selling.
If it looks like an unfinished series, the surfer will usually assume they can see more at the pay site.
Like if it's hardcore series content, I think it's good to show the beggining of the series up until the HC is going to get going, then hopefully that'll get the surfer into trying to find "the ending".
Same goes with solo series, if the gallery looks like a lead-in to something more, that'll work best. (In my opinion)
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I've always thought of the pix should lead up to the site yer selling.
If it looks like an unfinished series, the surfer will usually assume they can see more at the pay site.
Like if it's hardcore series content, I think it's good to show the beggining of the series up until the HC is going to get going, then hopefully that'll get the surfer into trying to find "the ending".
Same goes with solo series, if the gallery looks like a lead-in to something more, that'll work best. (In my opinion)
you only need one good pic do jack off too.
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you only need one good pic do jack off too.

Maybe if I create galleries where the images "expire" after just a few seconds.
"If ya wanna see it for longer, check out the paysite"
I'm gunna try it.
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Maybe if I create galleries where the images "expire" after just a few seconds.
"If ya wanna see it for longer, check out the paysite"
I'm gunna try it.
great idea.. very interesting if it can be done right
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Nothing but broken images...

I can only imagine what they were though!
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Pardon me for stating what should be obvious....the issue was TOO MUCH FREE FUCKING PORN!
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the issue is not free porn here,
its called oversaturation,
no wonder things dont convert, everyone has the same type of sites, no one uses their imagination anymore,

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS FOR SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN IT WILL WORK FOR YOU!

people need to come up with there own ideas,
there is 2 million teen sites that why no one signs up!
etc etc etc

USE YOU IMAGINATION OR DIE!
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Censoring the "Hot Spot" has always worked for me. If the horny surfer doesn't like my page, he'll just close it and go to another. But, if every single time he went to a page and it was censored...he would eventually buy. Remember, the only reason our customers/surfers are on our site is to JERK OFF! Thats it....plain and simple... JERK OFF! If they have nothing to get off to for free (EVER) they would be forced to buy....and guess what? They would!

Sponsors providing hosted galleries....Censor your pics. Just think of the thousands and thousands of pics out there that you host as free galleries that are being used to GET OFF on. If ALL the hosted galleries from ALL the sponsors were censored...that would help. My
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Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...
winners in this business have all the class
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who cares about little people?

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the issue is not free porn here,
its called oversaturation,
no wonder things dont convert, everyone has the same type of sites, no one uses their imagination anymore,

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS FOR SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN IT WILL WORK FOR YOU!

people need to come up with there own ideas,
there is 2 million teen sites that why no one signs up!
etc etc etc

USE YOU IMAGINATION OR DIE!
I agree with you 95%....doesn't change the fact that (in general) if you're giving away the best of what you're trying to sell, then you aren't going to sell much.
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I agree with you 95%....doesn't change the fact that (in general) if you're giving away the best of what you're trying to sell, then you aren't going to sell much.
things dont last forever you cant release a site and expect it to sell over and over without making constant changes,

when things are brand new or new things or added to it thats what makes people buy,

take shoes, they change the color of a stripe and people buy the new years model,

its not as easy as this but its all about refreshing, making new ideas and adding
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:56 PM   #48
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Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?
there's alot of Indian Christians out there.... ever heard of Mother Theresa of Calcutta? i went (and got expelled) to catholic school and there was a few Indian girls there...

isnt jasmine saint claire of indian origin or mix? not sure on that one
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Old 02-26-2003, 11:21 PM   #49
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Wow! K-Man? Is that really you? Long time no see
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