I think ALL paysites should close down right now! - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 02-26-2003, 05:56 PM

People can get it for free!

http://www.xxxamateurcity.com/bustyb...londeanal.html

http://www.hardcorebabes4u.com/busty...ustydildo.html

http://www.1inchnipples.com/armypick...mypickupc.html

http://www.goddess-exotica.com/bigti...latinabdh.html

Now we know why this account has crappy converts.

hybrid · 02-26-2003, 06:37 PM

No, it's all unoriginal content with fat bitches not doing a good job of faking it.

Disclaimer:
No offense is meant to anyone's ego/sister/mother/photographer/business/or whatever the hell else might be too sensitive to have some humor.

49thParallel · 02-26-2003, 07:05 PM

Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...

amacontent · 02-26-2003, 07:08 PM

Excellent call 49thparallel

Plat · 02-26-2003, 07:10 PM

I dont get it..but my best guess is...this content can be found in adult.com paysites and he ripped it and put it on galleries? o_0.

http://ctc.amateurpages.com/cgi-bin/...s.cgi?21525278

Wizzo · 02-26-2003, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...

I think he was making a point for MANY people around here, I seriously doubt his intentions were just to dog the guy... IF that were the case, he could have posted all his info and called him out by name....

49thParallel · 02-26-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plat
I dont get it..but my best guess is...this content can be found in adult.com paysites and he ripped it and put it on galleries? o_0.

http://ctc.amateurpages.com/cgi-bin/...s.cgi?21525278

Hmmm..if that's true, then I guess Lensman was simply making a point...as obscure as it may have been...

Snake Doctor · 02-26-2003, 07:18 PM

Is that AP content? If so I can see why you're pissed, but if its bought and paid for content I don't see the problem.

He is following "the rules"

Snake Doctor · 02-26-2003, 07:21 PM

Hmmmm, the CTC stats don't show tracks anymore? How do AP click affiliates tell if their conversions are good or not?

Pornwolf · 02-26-2003, 07:22 PM

I agree with Lens on any of the 3 points he could be making here.

Plat · 02-26-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I agree with Lens on any of the 3 points he could be making here.

Ok second guess is the uber hardcore images.

and thats the correct answer

Tanker · 02-26-2003, 07:26 PM

I think it is this.. .

Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.

Tanker

Va2k · 02-26-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I think it is this.. .

Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.

Tanker

amen,

if you show hardcore fuck it up, blur the hell out of it, make it grany tell them prettier pics in the members area etc.. *shakes his head* But im guilty of showing alot more hardcore then I should so I dont really have room to talk.
TOM

49thParallel · 02-26-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I think it is this.. .

Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.

Tanker

But, still, publically exposing one of your own business partners (affiliates) remains tasteless and without class (if he is not cheating)

Plus, if the surfer is still clicking thru on the AP Pic, after seeing the gallery, then obviously he is looking for more, and has not yet been satisfied. So, where does the fault of a non-conversion lay...

Plat · 02-26-2003, 07:29 PM

I'm not gonna argue about this post though.

Keep the hardcore images inside the paysite, dont be giving that shit out free.

And it's Lensmen's board, he can do or say whatever he wants, so you cant question him reguarding his own opinion in such cases... well you can but you wont win :c)

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I think it is this.. .

Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free

your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries.

Tanker

I agree I tried to push this point many times.

plus there really isn't any text on there that would get me to click thru

49thParallel · 02-26-2003, 07:34 PM

Hmmm...in my part of the world, we have a thing called email. If I had a affiliate who was not cheating but who I thought could better his sales technique...let's see, what would I do...would I point a finger at him and say to the world...look what this idiot is doing or would I send an email to him and say..."You are a valued partner..here's my suggestions"...Yep choice 2 has it.

GoLiaT · 02-26-2003, 07:37 PM

actually i sell 3 times better on gallerys with
real nudity and hardcore then no pussy pics

maybe thats just me....

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 07:40 PM

these are 2 of our galleries I think you need to tease them to were they want to see more not blow the load for free.
and have a great trial they can't refuse.
thats why we convert TGP traffic 1/40

But I guess everyone has there own way of doing things
http://www.teenbadgirls.com/tgp/tbg5/affiliates/?102395

http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395

Lensman · 02-26-2003, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Hmmm...in my part of the world, we have a thing called email. If I had a affiliate who was not cheating but who I thought could better his sales technique...let's see, what would I do...would I point a finger at him and say to the world...look what this idiot is doing or would I send an email to him and say..."You are a valued partner..here's my suggestions"...Yep choice 2 has it.

It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?

Pornwolf · 02-26-2003, 07:50 PM

<rant>
Is this the only indian babe in porn?
http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395

She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
</rant>

asuna · 02-26-2003, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?

jack off for free?
<img src="http://members.aol.com/somethinfodataz/smiley.gif">

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
<rant>
Is this the only indian babe in porn?
http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395

She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
</rant>

I guess I need to add others. LOL but it still kicks ass because of Porn4abuck.

But back to lensman As sponsors we should try to censor it some it would just benefit all of us. Maybe they will Listen to you

Pornwolf · 02-26-2003, 07:58 PM

Yeah but what sponsor is going to have the cojones to say this? Who will be the first to say it will cancel accounts for being promoted on a page with hardcore in an unprotected area? I know of a couple of sites that said no tgp traffic in the terms but they didn't uphold that.

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Yeah but what sponsor is going to have the cojones to say this? Who will be the first to say it will cancel accounts for being promoted on a page with hardcore in an unprotected area? I know of a couple of sites that said no tgp traffic in the terms but they didn't uphold that.

It will probably never happen. but I don't understand why webmasters want to give it all away for free.

If you can spank to it. whats the point

Brown Bear · 02-26-2003, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
<rant>
Is this the only indian babe in porn?
http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395

She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?!
</rant>

Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?

AWW - Kevin · 02-26-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

It's not an single affiliate issue, no one here knows who this account is. It's an issue of why pay for it if you can jackoff for free?

wasn't that the reason why TGP2 started a while back ?
i'd say about 50% or more of TGP's list Hardcore galleries,
no wonder i have seen so many ppl post topics like
"i'm loosing $$ with my tgp"
"tgp traffic sux"
"how do i make $$ with tgp"

you get the point....

Pornwolf · 02-26-2003, 08:06 PM

She's probably a West Indian-Indian. They have a lot of Indian babes that look like that from Trinidad and the other islands that are VERY Christian.

magnatique · 02-26-2003, 08:06 PM

why did you post my galleries Lensman!

now everyone will copy me... DAMNIT!

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear

Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?

Fuck if I know but it is kinda funny since she is in porn

Plat · 02-26-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnatique
why did you post my galleries Lensman!

now everyone will copy me... DAMNIT!

/me turns on choker's new auto tgp 8000/9x gallery builder

xxxdesign-net · 02-26-2003, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

It will probably never happen. but I don't understand why webmasters want to give it all away for free.

If you can spank to it. whats the point

But TGPs... like the hun are there to please their surfers...

Would the Hun list you if you had on 15 pics... 1 tits shot as the 15th pic? Would people come back to his TGP if all the galleries were like that? Teasing can lead to frustration if its on a regular basis!

magnatique · 02-26-2003, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plat

/me turns on choker's new auto tgp 8000/9x gallery builder

LOL

MattO · 02-26-2003, 08:19 PM

I've always thought of the pix should lead up to the site yer selling.
If it looks like an unfinished series, the surfer will usually assume they can see more at the pay site.
Like if it's hardcore series content, I think it's good to show the beggining of the series up until the HC is going to get going, then hopefully that'll get the surfer into trying to find "the ending".
Same goes with solo series, if the gallery looks like a lead-in to something more, that'll work best. (In my opinion)

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattO
I've always thought of the pix should lead up to the site yer selling.
If it looks like an unfinished series, the surfer will usually assume they can see more at the pay site.
Like if it's hardcore series content, I think it's good to show the beggining of the series up until the HC is going to get going, then hopefully that'll get the surfer into trying to find "the ending".
Same goes with solo series, if the gallery looks like a lead-in to something more, that'll work best. (In my opinion)

you only need one good pic do jack off too.

MattO · 02-26-2003, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

you only need one good pic do jack off too.

Maybe if I create galleries where the images "expire" after just a few seconds.
"If ya wanna see it for longer, check out the paysite"
I'm gunna try it.

Pornkings · 02-26-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattO

Maybe if I create galleries where the images "expire" after just a few seconds.
"If ya wanna see it for longer, check out the paysite"
I'm gunna try it.

great idea.. very interesting if it can be done right

jaYMan · 02-26-2003, 09:23 PM

Nothing but broken images...

I can only imagine what they were though!

DTK · 02-26-2003, 09:24 PM

Pardon me for stating what should be obvious....the issue was TOO MUCH FREE FUCKING PORN!

BJ · 02-26-2003, 09:26 PM

http://www.blondeangels.6x.to/

spanktacular

MetaMan · 02-26-2003, 09:31 PM

the issue is not free porn here,
its called oversaturation,
no wonder things dont convert, everyone has the same type of sites, no one uses their imagination anymore,

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS FOR SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN IT WILL WORK FOR YOU!

people need to come up with there own ideas,
there is 2 million teen sites that why no one signs up!
etc etc etc

USE YOU IMAGINATION OR DIE!

Sama · 02-26-2003, 09:32 PM

Censoring the "Hot Spot" has always worked for me. If the horny surfer doesn't like my page, he'll just close it and go to another. But, if every single time he went to a page and it was censored...he would eventually buy. Remember, the only reason our customers/surfers are on our site is to JERK OFF! Thats it....plain and simple... JERK OFF! If they have nothing to get off to for free (EVER) they would be forced to buy....and guess what? They would!

Sponsors providing hosted galleries....Censor your pics. Just think of the thousands and thousands of pics out there that you host as free galleries that are being used to GET OFF on. If ALL the hosted galleries from ALL the sponsors were censored...that would help. My

Plat · 02-26-2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan

lol @ ur sig

Serge_Oprano · 02-26-2003, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...

winners in this business have all the class
;-)))

who cares about little people?

;-))))

MetaMan · 02-26-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plat

lol @ ur sig

thx!

DTK · 02-26-2003, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
the issue is not free porn here,
its called oversaturation,
no wonder things dont convert, everyone has the same type of sites, no one uses their imagination anymore,

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS FOR SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN IT WILL WORK FOR YOU!

people need to come up with there own ideas,
there is 2 million teen sites that why no one signs up!
etc etc etc

USE YOU IMAGINATION OR DIE!

I agree with you 95%....doesn't change the fact that (in general) if you're giving away the best of what you're trying to sell, then you aren't going to sell much.

MetaMan · 02-26-2003, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DTK

I agree with you 95%....doesn't change the fact that (in general) if you're giving away the best of what you're trying to sell, then you aren't going to sell much.

things dont last forever you cant release a site and expect it to sell over and over without making constant changes,

when things are brand new or new things or added to it thats what makes people buy,

take shoes, they change the color of a stripe and people buy the new years model,

its not as easy as this but its all about refreshing, making new ideas and adding

kmanrox · 02-26-2003, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear

Why does she have a christian cross on her necklace?

there's alot of Indian Christians out there.... ever heard of Mother Theresa of Calcutta? i went (and got expelled) to catholic school and there was a few Indian girls there...

isnt jasmine saint claire of indian origin or mix? not sure on that one

Pornwolf · 02-26-2003, 11:21 PM

Wow! K-Man? Is that really you? Long time no see

02-26-2003, 05:56 PM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I think ALL paysites should close down right now! People can get it for free! http://www.xxxamateurcity.com/bustyb...londeanal.html http://www.hardcorebabes4u.com/busty...ustydildo.html http://www.1inchnipples.com/armypick...mypickupc.html http://www.goddess-exotica.com/bigti...latinabdh.html Now we know why this account has crappy converts.

02-26-2003, 07:08 PM	#4
amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,875	Excellent call 49thparallel __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

02-26-2003, 07:10 PM	#5
Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	I dont get it..but my best guess is...this content can be found in adult.com paysites and he ripped it and put it on galleries? o_0. http://ctc.amateurpages.com/cgi-bin/...s.cgi?21525278 __________________ Im fuckin retired

02-26-2003, 07:18 PM	#8
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Is that AP content? If so I can see why you're pissed, but if its bought and paid for content I don't see the problem. He is following "the rules" __________________ sig too big

02-26-2003, 07:21 PM	#9
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Hmmmm, the CTC stats don't show tracks anymore? How do AP click affiliates tell if their conversions are good or not? __________________ sig too big

02-26-2003, 06:37 PM	#2
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	No, it's all unoriginal content with fat bitches not doing a good job of faking it. Disclaimer: No offense is meant to anyone's ego/sister/mother/photographer/business/or whatever the hell else might be too sensitive to have some humor.

02-26-2003, 07:05 PM	#3
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Yep, real professional. Nothing like putting down your affiliates publically on your own board. Damn, does anyone in this business have any class whatsoever. And, no that's not my account...

02-26-2003, 07:22 PM	#10
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I agree with Lens on any of the 3 points he could be making here. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-26-2003, 07:26 PM	#12
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I think it is this.. . Why show all the hardcore there and give it away for free your not going to sell memberships if your are putting all the good stuff in your galleries. Tanker __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

02-26-2003, 07:29 PM	#15
Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	I'm not gonna argue about this post though. Keep the hardcore images inside the paysite, dont be giving that shit out free. And it's Lensmen's board, he can do or say whatever he wants, so you cant question him reguarding his own opinion in such cases... well you can but you wont win :c) __________________ Im fuckin retired

02-26-2003, 07:34 PM	#17
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Hmmm...in my part of the world, we have a thing called email. If I had a affiliate who was not cheating but who I thought could better his sales technique...let's see, what would I do...would I point a finger at him and say to the world...look what this idiot is doing or would I send an email to him and say..."You are a valued partner..here's my suggestions"...Yep choice 2 has it.

02-26-2003, 07:37 PM	#18
GoLiaT Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,130	actually i sell 3 times better on gallerys with real nudity and hardcore then no pussy pics maybe thats just me.... __________________ "where ever you go..there you are."

02-26-2003, 07:40 PM	#19
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	these are 2 of our galleries I think you need to tease them to were they want to see more not blow the load for free. and have a great trial they can't refuse. thats why we convert TGP traffic 1/40 But I guess everyone has there own way of doing things http://www.teenbadgirls.com/tgp/tbg5/affiliates/?102395 http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395 __________________ Pornkings.com Last edited by Pornkings; 02-26-2003 at 07:45 PM..

02-26-2003, 07:50 PM	#21
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	<rant> Is this the only indian babe in porn? http://www.indianfever.com/tgp/if1/affiliates/?102395 She's the only one with new content and I see her everywhere!?! </rant> __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-26-2003, 07:58 PM	#24
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Yeah but what sponsor is going to have the cojones to say this? Who will be the first to say it will cancel accounts for being promoted on a page with hardcore in an unprotected area? I know of a couple of sites that said no tgp traffic in the terms but they didn't uphold that. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-26-2003, 08:06 PM	#28
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	She's probably a West Indian-Indian. They have a lot of Indian babes that look like that from Trinidad and the other islands that are VERY Christian. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-26-2003, 08:06 PM	#29
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02-26-2003, 08:19 PM	#34
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	I've always thought of the pix should lead up to the site yer selling. If it looks like an unfinished series, the surfer will usually assume they can see more at the pay site. Like if it's hardcore series content, I think it's good to show the beggining of the series up until the HC is going to get going, then hopefully that'll get the surfer into trying to find "the ending". Same goes with solo series, if the gallery looks like a lead-in to something more, that'll work best. (In my opinion)

02-26-2003, 09:23 PM	#38
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	Nothing but broken images... I can only imagine what they were though! __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

02-26-2003, 09:24 PM	#39
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Pardon me for stating what should be obvious....the issue was TOO MUCH FREE FUCKING PORN!

02-26-2003, 09:26 PM	#40
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02-26-2003, 09:31 PM	#41
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	the issue is not free porn here, its called oversaturation, no wonder things dont convert, everyone has the same type of sites, no one uses their imagination anymore, JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WORKS FOR SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN IT WILL WORK FOR YOU! people need to come up with there own ideas, there is 2 million teen sites that why no one signs up! etc etc etc USE YOU IMAGINATION OR DIE!

02-26-2003, 09:32 PM	#42
Sama Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Paradise Posts: 1,445	Censoring the "Hot Spot" has always worked for me. If the horny surfer doesn't like my page, he'll just close it and go to another. But, if every single time he went to a page and it was censored...he would eventually buy. Remember, the only reason our customers/surfers are on our site is to JERK OFF! Thats it....plain and simple... JERK OFF! If they have nothing to get off to for free (EVER) they would be forced to buy....and guess what? They would! Sponsors providing hosted galleries....Censor your pics. Just think of the thousands and thousands of pics out there that you host as free galleries that are being used to GET OFF on. If ALL the hosted galleries from ALL the sponsors were censored...that would help. My __________________ Make Money With Our Virgins! Cash Bonuses for Everyone! $600 Bonus to $25K Bonus!

02-26-2003, 11:21 PM	#49
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