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Old 07-14-2013, 11:49 AM   #51
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Martin felt threatened by a older man armed with a gun following him for twenty minutes. Martin ran from him. Martin was acting in self defense.
He was acting in self defense in your imagination only. Otherwise he could have just called the police or went home if he believed he was in danger instead of chatting up some chick he met on the phone.The law and facts do not agree with you. Seems that should be painfully clear by now.

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Old 07-14-2013, 12:04 PM   #52
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look at all the sunny disposition in here.

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Old 07-14-2013, 01:03 PM   #54
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He was acting in self defense in your imagination only. Otherwise he could have just called the police or went home if he believed he was in danger instead of chatting up some chick he met on the phone.The law and facts do not agree with you. Seems that should be painfully clear by now.
A teenager ran away from a man with a gun... Who then shot and killed him.

Do you have kids?
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We watched the trial, the jurors watched and knew way more than any of us here in this thread, they voted for "NOT GUILTY". imho well deserved.

It was overall just a really unfortunate situation, mis-communicated by the both of them.
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wow ????

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A teenager ran away from a man with a gun... Who then shot and killed him.

Do you have kids?
I understand that in your mind which ignores most of the facts while distorting the rest is that Martins last words were "you win, take my skittles"

My having or not having children is irrelevant to what was proven in court and I understand completely that the fact that you have kids is the basis for your visceral and irrational reaction to events which is so severe in its irrationality, that many keep saying that you're trolling and can't possibly believe what you say.

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A teenager ran away from a man with a gun... Who then shot and killed him.

Do you have kids?
Great, now he ran away from Zimmerman? I thought he was on top of Zimmerman.
You seem to lack an ability to hold several facts up in your head and come to reasonable conclusions.

What is your goal? Are you being overzealous to gain points with the black community?

Pretty sure your arguments have earned you a net negative on any business prospects.

Your argument type is of the worst, overzealous and utterly emotional.

I really hope you never have to serve on a jury for justice's sake.
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Great, now he ran away from Zimmerman? I thought he was on top of Zimmerman.
You seem to lack an ability to hold several facts up in your head and come to reasonable conclusions.

What is your goal? Are you being overzealous to gain points with the black community?

Pretty sure your arguments have earned you a net negative on any business prospects.

Your argument type is of the worst, overzealous and utterly emotional.

I really hope you never have to serve on a jury for justice's sake.
It's obvious..his opinions are based on Dating factories & Mailing Solutions..
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Great, now he ran away from Zimmerman? I thought he was on top of Zimmerman.
You seem to lack an ability to hold several facts up in your head and come to reasonable conclusions.

What is your goal? Are you being overzealous to gain points with the black community?

Pretty sure your arguments have earned you a net negative on any business prospects.

Your argument type is of the worst, overzealous and utterly emotional.

I really hope you never have to serve on a jury for justice's sake.
one of the 911 calls.Zimmerman says he is running away. I think Rochard has a very different perspective because he has a kid and has been in actual combat.
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one of the 911 calls.Zimmerman says he is running away. I think Rochard has a very different perspective because he has a kid and has been in actual combat.
I think you are mistaken..he has said he never saw any action. There are a lot of parents and ex-military that post here.
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one of the 911 calls.Zimmerman says he is running away. I think Rochard has a very different perspective because he has a kid and has been in actual combat.
I'll just say this...

I live dead center in Iowa and there has been a steady inflow of black Chicagoans here, half the police blotter is now composed of Blacks (from close to 0 when I first moved here 3.5 years ago). This move has been caused by some special housing here in Iowa and among other things the welfare program over here is much better than Illinois.
As I mentioned in the main Zimmerman thread that one of these Chicagoans spit all over my scooter early morning while I was at the gym.
I don't like talking race because people can't handle themselves rationally about it. Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, particularly young black men.

If you are a black person and you are walking through a neighborhood that has had a recent influx of theft, you'd be very wise to not walk through there. Infact, you are asking for it.
Perhaps you should be looking after your kid and where he goes. If you are a black parent with a black kid you should think about letting preventing him from wearing certain clothes and traveling in certain areas at night.

I discriminate all the time, you have to!!!

As I've said before, my discrimination has been induced purely from experience and on my own account.

One of my black friends asking me to borrow my bike, and taking into account his history of getting evicted for being an unruly tenant among many other things, I declined his request.
I did it in a passive-aggressive way, how most whites handle racial issues with blacks in this racially charged era, by telling him I sold it.

A black girlfriend of mine still has her stuff in My garage (can't park my car there) and she's 2 weeks overdue to pick it up.

There are many talented people of African decent, it's just asham the majority has to drag you down, especially the utterly hindering culture they revel in.
It doesn't work.

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ce-For-Trayvon
The web site is known and proven to lie.

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lol, jesus christ people...

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Great, now he ran away from Zimmerman? I thought he was on top of Zimmerman.
On the 911 call Zimmerman told them he was running away from him. Zimmerman followed, even after he was told not to.
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You people are so disillusioned; it is not even funny. And Tony, Rochard never say action, try to keep up. Rochard, I have kids and I say you are full of shit. Facts mean nothing to you, thank God you have never been on a jury. If you ever get called, be sure to let us know so we can make sure you are dismissed. You lack the ability to reason.
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On the 911 call Zimmerman told them he was running away from him. Zimmerman followed, even after he was told not to.
You have crossed that point that you are now ignoring the facts and are intentionally lying. I will presume you are lying with a straight face which means there is no way I could do business with anything you are associated with. How could I trust anything you have to say?
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In theory this guy might get off too. In fact under some circumstances he might even be able to shoot the kids he was making racist rants against and then claim that they had reached for his gun and threatened to shoot him.

If there are no living witnesses but him and he's smart enough to make up a good story in order to match the evidence available it could have happened. Thankfully it didn't although one person still died. Pretty scary. It's pretty clear that there need to be some changes and not just due to racial issues but for the entire law and standards themselves.

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Butler shot Gant between the eyes with a .22 caliber rifle, called 911 and then finished making his dinner, according to The Star, which reports that a deputy said he found Butler eating supper and acting ?inconvenienced? with his arrest because he ?had only shot a (racial slur).?

Butler?s Thursday court hearing has been rescheduled until September.
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Today's egregious Florida gun crime comes to you from Port St. Joe, where police say 59-year-old Walton Henry Butler shot a man in the head last night, then sat down and ate dinner while the victim lay bleeding at his door. Police say he was upset because "he had only shot a n--ger."

The victim, 32-year-old Everett Gant, had gone to Butler's apartment to confront him about calling a child a "n----r" and making "several racial remarks to the black children in the apartment complex," according to the police report. Butler allegedly responded by shooting him in the face with a .22-caliber rifle.

The rest can be best explained by the probable-cause affidavit from the Gulf County Sheriff's Office (We also put the cover page online, if you're curious):

After Walt Butler shot Everett Gant he stated he shut the sliding glass door with Everett Gant lying outside the door, called 911 then funished cooking supper, sat at the kitchen table and began eating.

When Sheriff Nugent arrived on scene he made contact with Butler by phone. Butler told him to come in he was eating dinner and had put up the gun. Butler was sitting at the table and acted as if it was an inconvenienced [sic] when he was asked to stand up and handcuffs were put on. He said he did not understand the problem he had only shot a n--ger.

Charming, Mr. Butler. That will be a charge of attempted murder with a hate-crime enhancement for you, sir.

As for Gant, he's in stable condition and expected to survive.
(he didn't survive despite what the above article states)
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I will presume you are lying with a straight face which means there is no way I could do business with anything you are associated with. How could I trust anything you have to say?
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Martin felt threatened by a older man armed with a gun following him for twenty minutes. Martin ran from him. Martin was acting in self defense.
NO he didn't unless Zimmerman had him at gun point.

Martian Could of out ran that fat ass.

YOU are the one Calling this unjustified, but then throw in some Unjustified Bullshit about being followed so I had to go beat someones ass...

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Idiot - he was killed NOT because he enjoyed skittles.
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A teenager ran away from a man with a gun... Who then shot and killed him.

Do you have kids?
He was shot in the front right? Zimmerman was beat up. If someone has kids they should view the law or crime differently?
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And moron:

stop calling almost adult criminal-gangster and "innocent child"
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Rochard you have now entered the fruit cake zone.
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This just in. They're no longer called Skittles.

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You have crossed that point that you are now ignoring the facts and are intentionally lying. I will presume you are lying with a straight face which means there is no way I could do business with anything you are associated with. How could I trust anything you have to say?
This Rochard guy is wackier than Lawrence Conner... at least LC was intelligent.
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I hope DatingFactory and YNOT Mail are getting their monies worth from Rochard.
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This Rochard guy is wackier than Lawrence Conner... at least LC was intelligent.

After reading multiple threads on this issue, it dawned on me that there are 2 dildos with similiar sounding names... Rochard and Richard. That was not nearly as odd to me as the fact that there was an issue that I was on the same side as Baddog.

As for you whiners, shut the fuck up and go take it up with Al Sharpton. The jury rendered a decision and that's that, there should have never been a trial, it was only to appease the fucking whiners.
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I hope DatingFactory and YNOT Mail are getting their monies worth from Rochard.


he seems like a good guy... overall. sure they do well
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After reading multiple threads on this issue, it dawned on me that there are 2 dildos with similiar sounding names... Rochard and Richard. That was not nearly as odd to me as the fact that there was an issue that I was on the same side as Baddog.

As for you whiners, shut the fuck up and go take it up with Al Sharpton. The jury rendered a decision and that's that, there should have never been a trial, it was only to appease the fucking whiners.
For those unable to understand what he was saying: Apparently RFremont and I rarely agree (I never noticed); yet this is a topic we do agree on. And I agree 100% with his second paragraph.
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he seems like a good guy... overall. sure they do well
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i dont know what crack you have been smoking if you think travon was some innocent kid.

funny how many people give a fuck about this trial
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You people are so disillusioned; it is not even funny. And Tony, Rochard never say action, try to keep up. Rochard, I have kids and I say you are full of shit. Facts mean nothing to you, thank God you have never been on a jury. If you ever get called, be sure to let us know so we can make sure you are dismissed. You lack the ability to reason.
So if your seventeen year old child was waking home from the store, saw a man watching him, tried to run away and ended up shot and dead by that same man... You would just accept that?

Do you not understand?
  • Man notices child
  • Man follows child
  • Child gets scared.
  • Child runs.
  • Man shoots child

Don't give me any bullshit Zimmerman was defending himself.
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So if your seventeen year old child was waking home from the store, saw a man watching him, tried to run away and ended up shot and dead by that same man... You would just accept that?

Do you not understand?
  • Man notices child
  • Man follows child
  • Child gets scared.
  • Child runs.
  • Man shoots child

Don't give me any bullshit Zimmerman was defending himself.
If my son decides he is going to try and prove a point by assaulting someone, that is something we will have to deal with. I may not be happy about the result but I have to stay based in reality.

You should try it sometime.

You realize, no matter how many times you attempt to skew the facts, that does not change things, right?

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So if your seventeen year old child was waking home from the store, saw a man watching him, tried to run away and ended up shot and dead by that same man... You would just accept that?

Do you not understand?
  • Man notices child
  • Man follows child
  • Child gets scared.
  • Child runs.
  • Man shoots child

Don't give me any bullshit Zimmerman was defending himself.
Jees, you should have shut up while you were ahead. Every time you open your mouth it gets worse!

More like:
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  • Man follows thug
  • Thug takes offense that he's being watched
  • Thug confronts man, is itching for a fight
  • Thug gets shot when he goes for mans gun and man gets gun first
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #88
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Jees, you should have shut up while you were ahead. Every time you open your mouth it gets worse!
He was never ahead.
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Jees, you should have shut up while you were ahead.
Can you please point me to where he was ahead, I must have missed that. TIA.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:43 PM   #90
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This just in. They're no longer called Skittles.

so now its skittles instead of grape soda and watermelon? dont be surprised by the future events
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i dont know what crack you have been smoking if you think travon was some innocent kid.

funny how many people give a fuck about this trial
he brought a gun to a fist fight! you dont understand that???
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he brought a gun to a fist fight! you dont understand that???
Keep twisting the truth as much as you want; it does not change facts.
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Keep twisting the truth as much as you want; it does not change facts.
so they both had guns? twisting what? doesn't matter he was a thug so the parents should just let it go.
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Nothing anyone says here will be able to change my mind.

This was a wannabe cop who had been rejected, who wanted to play police officer. He was armed with a handgun and TWO FLASHLIGHTS. Who goes to the store carrying two flashlights on their person? He pursued this kid even after the kid RAN from him. A confrontation took place, and the only side we have is Zimmerman's. It's not like he doesn't have a long history of spinning bullshit.

Zimmerman's wounds weren't life threatening. Not even close. He shot a kid over a fist fight.
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So if your seventeen year old child was waking home from the store, saw a man watching him, tried to run away and ended up shot and dead by that same man... You would just accept that?

Do you not understand?
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Don't give me any bullshit Zimmerman was defending himself.
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Can you please point me to where he was ahead, I must have missed that. TIA.
He was ahead before he started the thread or even before he offered his opinion.
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Nothing anyone says here will be able to change my mind.

This was a wannabe cop who had been rejected, who wanted to play police officer. He was armed with a handgun and TWO FLASHLIGHTS. Who goes to the store carrying two flashlights on their person? He pursued this kid even after the kid RAN from him. A confrontation took place, and the only side we have is Zimmerman's. It's not like he doesn't have a long history of spinning bullshit.

Zimmerman's wounds weren't life threatening. Not even close. He shot a kid over a fist fight.
And Trayvon was a wannabe thug who got his ass handed to him.
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He was ahead before he started the thread or even before he offered his opinion.
Based on his posts on this message board (and I don't mean this thread alone btw), I'm gonna wager that he's been behind for a long, LONG time.
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