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Ecuador also stated it could take several weeks to months to grant him asylum.
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I was in the Marines for four years. There were times when I knew my commanding officer pretty good, but there were other times when the only conversation I had with my commanding officer was all of three minutes long, and included introductions of a dozen other people at the same time. We have millions of people working for our intelligence agencies, either directly or as "contractors". It's surprising this doesn't happen more often. |
maybe dwb is right. snowden had a plan all along, create worldwide outrage by having this part of the story create an extended news cycle.
that would be some very successful planning as it does seem several parts of this have been serendipitous for snowden, it's hard to imagine he could envision it would turn into a diplomatic nightmare with countries like ecuador snubbing their nose at us. |
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the intelligence community as a whole includes 854,000 people holding top-secret clearances. but even that number of snoops is obscene. |
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"Being ex-military, perhaps you have heard of ranks. The theory being that you have a bunch of small groups or squads that are each supervised by one guy for each squad; then you have another guy that is over a group of squads, which you might call a company. Then you have one guy that supervises the supervisors of the various companies. You see where this is going?" My point was the more people you have under you, the more problems you will have. |
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You don't do something like this without a very detailed plan and proper connections. Otherwise they would have nailed his ass in Hong Kong, where the USA has an FBI office . Wrap your head around that. He was in Hong Kong where the FBI is located, and they STILL couldn't get him. He is being protected from some very powerful people. That's all there is to it. |
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Johnny Mnemonic: I can carry nearly eighty gigs of data in my head.
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i think his best bet is china....
if his girlfriend can help him get his girlfriend involved she is chinese isn't she? |
know of a guy apparently who married a ukranian woman so she could get some more permanent residency in the such and such country she was visiting, it was not another eastern european country though.
if his girlfriend is chinese or his wife, then there must be clauses in their policy which allow a foreign partner in on conditions or probably not that liberal eh. i would call china a dictatorship more than communist state but the united states didn't have the balls to list them as a rogue state. i have seen his wife she is actually pretty sexy. |
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let's say 1 million snoops, just for fun. there are 9 billion total people on the planet, children, starving africans, all of us. it's fair to say 99.9% of those, us, don't want to hurt us. (it's way more, like 99.999999%) so .1% = 9 million potential terrorists. that's 1 snoop to 9 potential terrorists ratio :1orglaugh that's pretty funcking paranoid. |
Now being reported that his dad thinks he may return to the US, that he has been manipulated by wikileaks, that he has broken the law but has not betrayed his country
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I see that Russia is now asking for similar access to Facebook, Google, etc as they have people they want to check on.
I had always assumed that the govt listened to every phone call, text, email, etc. Doesn't everyone sort of think that? |
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bradley manning was military and was handled via the military. i think you are underestimating the difference here. thomas drake's charges were reduced from espionage to misdeanors. you can't deny that. and his case exactly resembles this one Quote:
you just keep putting your foot in your mouth. but you are an idiot if you think i don't care or don't know after 7+ pagesof this thread. |
the other significant difference between drake and snowden is drake did not go to enemy states with his data under the guise of truth for americans. so i doubt he will be treated the same.
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I pray that fucking twit gets ass raped twice daily. |
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he is a whistleblower, he tried to release the info to newspapers within the US and was refused, and thus started wikileaks and all the whistleblowing since you need to seriously take a long look at yourself, and once that's finished, if ever, take a long look at this situation. |
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again, we didn't shoot thomas drake. obviously, america can differentiate between the 2, because that's exactly what we did, that's why drake's charges were reduced. but let's focus on just one completely unrelated event. nevermind it's military court v public.
y'all just love to talk shit re: usa. just the facts aren't enough with the gfy mob. |
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seems there is a misunderstanding here re: how america handles these sorts of things
The Espionage Act and whistleblowing Drake is one of four individuals in the history of the United States who has been charged specifically with “willful retention” of “national defense” information under 18 U.S.C. § 793(e). This particular portion of the Espionage Act was created in 1950 during the Second Red Scare, as part of the McCarran Internal Security Act. Anthony Russo and Daniel Ellsberg were the first to be prosecuted for the “retention” of what came to be known as the Pentagon Papers which Ellsberg gave to The New York Times, eventually resulting in another landmark Espionage Act case in 1971, New York Times Co. v. United States. The prosecution of Russo and Ellsberg was dismissed in 1972 because of government misconduct. The second prosecution was of Samuel Loring Morison in 1985, a Navy analyst who sold satellite photographs to Jane's Defense Weekly; he was later pardoned by President Bill Clinton. |
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http://www.nationofchange.org/fbi-kn...ing-1372427453 [DELETED] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles. (Note: protests continued throughout the weekend with approximately 6000 persons in NYC. ?Occupy Wall Street? protests have spread to about half of all states in the US, over a dozen European and Asian cities, including protests in Cleveland (10/6-8/11) at Willard Park which was initially attended by hundreds of protesters.) and here is the FBI confirming this: On 13 October 2011, writer sent via email an excerpt from the daily [DELETED] regarding FBI Houston?s [DELETED] to all IAs, SSRAs and SSA [DELETED] This [DELETED] identified the exploitation of the Occupy Movement by [LENGTHY DELETION] interested in developing a long-term plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire. |
a bit strange how he is in hong kong now moscow, possibly back to the united states. i mean, imagine the situation he was in in hong ko... i am alone, in a big city i don't know, there are police and god knows who else undercover on my case in a city they know much better than me, and i am out here unprotected with no disguises or anything else to defend myself it is just no wonder he got caught.
mind you if he is smart he would have had all of this arranged before he executed the leak. he would have his own hand over to the chinese or now, russians, already organised. yeah he has a girlfriend somebody told me she is chinese i saw the pictures wow she is hot. |
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Don't be stupid here. Law enforcement should only act if they believe action is needed. Seems like in this case law enforcement did not believe the threat and was... surprise.... Correct in their judgement. |
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