420 sites crackdown?

[CosmicKitten]

US Attorney General targetting 'drug paraphernalia' sites:

'Officials said two investigations had put 11 illicit dotcom companies out of business. John Brown, acting chief of the Drug Enforcement Administration, said, "There are 11 dotcoms that are dot-gone."

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030224_588.html

Should I pull my vaporizer links? hehe

[Keev]

yea i was asking around to see if the guys at 420palace.com were approached

[CosmicKitten]

another article along these lines:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Pr...ust030224.html

I can drive up the road and buy any bong I could ever need and but its illegal to sell them online?

[detoxed]

go to 420palace.com genius

[Rictor]

Cool. Damn hippies.

[SetTheWorldonFire]

they closed shop and ran to mexico

[greentea]

The individuals named in the indictments are:

Joyce J. Adamy, a/k/a Joyce J. Kunkle, and d/b/a Phantasm, age 27, of Johnstown, PA.;


Jodey P. Bayle, d/b/a Pipe Emporium, d/b/a Sunrise Distribution, and d/b/a Pipesforyou.com, 48, of Erie, PA.;


Glen W. Beers, d/b/a G.W. Pipedreams, 29, of Clarion, PA.;


William A. Conover, d/b/a B&M Variety, 42, of Erie, PA.;


Christina A. Cummings, d/b/a Phantasm, 28, of Johnstown, PA.;


Michael Anthony Deblasio, d/b/a Heads-N-Threads, 24, of North Huntingdon, PA.;


Jason Robert Harris, d/b/a Jerome Baker Designs, Inc., d/b/a Ghettoweb, Inc., d/b/a Universal Glass, Inc., d/b/a Jeromebaker.com, d/b/a Ghettoweb.com, d/b/a Smokelab.com, and d/b/a Higher Source, 32, of Eugene, OR.;


Richard Kevin Jaussen, d/b/a Tela Ropa, Inc., 48, of Pittsburgh, PA.;


Ara Melkizian, d/b/a Omnilounge L.L.C., and d/b/a Omnilounge.com, 29, of North Hollywood, CA.


Saeed Mohtadi, d/b/a Jerome Baker Designs, Inc., d/b/a Ghettoweb, Inc., d/b/a Universal Glass, Inc., d/b/a Jeromebaker.com, d/b/a Ghettoweb.com, d/b/a Smokelab.com, and d/b/a Higher Source, 32, of Eugene, OR.;


John Matthew Patrick, d/b/a California Colorchangers, Inc., and d/b/a Colorchangingglass.com, 38, of Forestville, CA.;


Randolph Przekop, d/b/a Slacker, Inc., 36, of Pittsburgh, PA.;


Ahmad Rakine, d/b/a A&E Wholesalers, Inc., 20, of Pembroke Pines, FL.;


Eric M. Rodgers, d/b/a Stone Artworx, Inc., 32, of Phoenix, AZ.;


Edward Ian Rothschild, d/b/a Edward Rothschild Entertainment, Inc., d/b/a Rothschild Consulting, Inc., d/b/a Gothic Dungeon, d/b/a 420now.com, d/b/a 420smile.com, d/b/a Gothicdungeon.com, d/b/a Testingfree.com, and d/b/a Themallusa.com, 48, of Columbia, SC;


David V. Stone, d/b/a Stone Artworx, Inc., 38, of Phoenix, AZ.;


Mary Louise Stone, d/b/a Stone Artworx, Inc., 58, of Glendale, AZ.;


Ryan Vaughn Struble, d/b/a Headcase, and d/b/a Aheadcase.com, 30, of
Diamond Bar, CA;


Ryan Teurfs, d/b/a 101 North Glass, Inc., d/b/a The Glass House, and d/b/a 101north.net, 29, of Arcata, CA.;


Inez M. Thompson, d/b/a Pipe Emporium, d/b/a Sunrise Distribution, and d/b/a Pipesforyou.com, 48, of Erie, PA.;


Jason Vrbas, d/b/a 101 North Glass, Inc., d/b/a The Glass House, and d/b/a 101north.net, 29, of Arcata, CA.;


John Lee Walker, a/k/a John Lee Walker, Jr., d/b/a Headcase, and d/b/a Aheadcase.com, 35, of Riverside, CA.;


Gabriel Watson, d/b/a 101 North Glass, Inc., d/b/a The Glass House, and d/b/a 101north.net, 29, of Arcata, CA.;


Anthony Yanow, d/b/a Hot Comet Enterprises, d/b/a Puff Pipes, d/b/a Atmospheres Lifestyles of LA, and d/b/a Puffpipes.com, 31, of Los Angeles, CA;


Waleed A. Zahrieh, d/b/a Wicked Corp. and d/b/a Sands of Time, 37, of Los Gatos, CA.;


Nessar David Zahriya, d/b/a Wicked Corp. and d/b/a Sands of Time, 39, of San Mateo, CA.; and


Tracie Lynn Zimmerman, d/b/a Heads-N-Threads, 34, of North Huntingdon, PA.

National Distributors

Named in the indictments announced today are 17 individuals who operated 10 national distribution companies of drug paraphernalia.

The following persons operated six businesses based in California:


Melkizian operated Omnilounge L.L.C. which also did business over the internet as omnilounge.com.


Patrick was charged as the operator of California Colorchangers, which did business as colorchangingglass.com.


Teurfs, Vrbas and Watson operated another internet company named 101north.net, which also did business as 101 North Glass and The Glass House.


Yanow has been indicted for running puffpipes.com, which also did business as Hot Comet Enterprises and Atmospheres Lifestyles of L.A.


Struble and Walker were charged with operating aheadcase.com, also known as Headcase.


Zahriya and Zahrieh were indicted in conjunction with their operation of the Sands of Time and its successor business, Wicked Corporation.
The individuals who ran the four other national operations charged were:



Rothschild did business under all of the names listed above, and Gothic Dungeon in Columbia, SC;


Rakine operated A&E Wholesalers in Pembroke Pines, FL.;


C Stone, Stone and Rodgers ran Stone Artworx in Phoenix, AZ.; and


Harris and Mohtadi owned Jerome Baker Designs and the other companies in
Eugene, OR.

Regional Retail Shops

Ten individuals who sold drug paraphernalia in retail shops in the Western District of Pennsylvania also face charges of conspiracy, offering for sale, and selling drug paraphernalia. The defendants in Pennsylvania are:

Beers, G.W. Pipedreams, Clarion

Conover, B&M Variety, Erie

Jaussen, Tela Ropa, Pittsburgh

Thompson and Bayle, Pipe Emporium, Sunrise Distribution and pipesforyou.com, Erie

Zimmerman and Deblasio, Heads-N-Threads, North Huntingdon

Adamy and Cummings, Phantasm, Johnstown

Przekop, Slacker, Inc., Pittsburgh
OPERATION HEADHUNTER

The DEA resident office in Des Moines, Iowa, initiated an investigation into the sale and distribution of drug paraphernalia at headshops in Southern Iowa in January 2000. Federal search warrants executed at four such businesses in Iowa resulted in the seizure of more than $2 million in drug paraphernalia. The searches also implicated various national distributors, including four companies indicted today.

The investigation leading to the indictments in this case was led by the DEA, along with the U.S. Marshals Service, U.S. Customs Service, U.S. Postal Inspection Service, U.S. Secret Service, Polk County (Iowa) Sheriff's Office and the Des Moines (Iowa) Police Department.

The individuals named in the four indictments brought in the Southern District of Iowa, announced today, include:

Alan Bruce Clute, a/k/a Bruce Clute, and Lawrence Charles Bowman, d/b/a Smoky Mountain Trading Co, d/b/a Dream Factory Boutique and d/b/a Strange Daze Boutique, Detroit.


Jose Corona Zavala, Jr., Juan Luis Zavala and Clinton Lee Goodson, d/b/a The Other Side, d/b/a The Crush, d/b/a The Worx, d/b/a The Bomb, d/b/a Toys in the Attic and d/b/a Artistic Alchemy Manufacturing, Sacramento and North Hollywood, Calif.


Amanda Claire Ballard, a/k/a Amanda Claire Irwin, a/k/a Mandi Claire Ballard, a/k/a Mandi Claire Irwin and Allison Blakely Ballard, d/b/a Acme Distributing and Mfg., d/b/a Acme Distributing, d/b/a Smoke Stax and d/b/a A & M Gifts, Houston.


Catherine Nicole Adamson and Bruce Dean Ross d/b/a Grow Industries, d/b/a Zong Toy Company, d/b/a Zong Industries, d/b/a ZTC, d/b/a Seedless and d/b/a Seedless Clothing Company Shea Artis McComb, San Diego, Calif.

[Babaganoosh]

Why people in the US start up 420 sites is a mystery to me. Even though most people are cool with smoking, it is still illegal.

[BigFrog]

John Ashhahahahaha is a dick. a pipe is a pipe....now he is saying pipes are illegal just because they 'could' be used to smoke dope.
what a fucktard.

sad thing is they took down smokelab.com.
that place sold Jerome Baker glass.....the best glass in my opinion.


damn, looks like ghettoweb.com is down too.

[beemk]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Why people in the US start up 420 sites is a mystery to me. Even though most people are cool with smoking, it is still illegal.

you can smoke regular tobacco with them, thats not illegal. that would be like saying its illegal to sell lighters because people who smoke crack use lighters when they smoke crack.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by beemk


you can smoke regular tobacco with them, thats not illegal. that would be like saying its illegal to sell lighters because people who smoke crack use lighters when they smoke crack.

That's stretching it a little. Most of those bong sites had a marijuana leaf or some reference to weed. How many people do you know that smoke tobacco from a bong?

[picindex]

Originally posted by CosmicKitten
US Attorney General targetting 'drug paraphernalia' sites:

'Officials said two investigations had put 11 illicit dotcom companies out of business. John Brown, acting chief of the Drug Enforcement Administration, said, "There are 11 dotcoms that are dot-gone."

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030224_588.html

Should I pull my vaporizer links? hehe

I'm waiting for the DEA to raid my ass for my spore business

[BigFrog]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


That's stretching it a little. Most of those bong sites had a marijuana leaf or some reference to weed. How many people do you know that smoke tobacco from a bong?

that's just it though.....strectching it is actually assuming what a person will use it for. it's not up to Ashhahahahaha to assume we will smoke weed out of a pipe or waterpipe. a pipe or waterpipe isnt illegal.....but once you smoke dope out of it and it has thc on it then it becomes illegal.

[EscortBiz]

I think the war on drugs killed more people then the drugs itself, just make the shit legal

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by BigFrog



that's just it though.....strectching it is actually assuming what a person will use it for. it's not up to Ashhahahahaha to assume we will smoke weed out of a pipe or waterpipe. a pipe or waterpipe isnt illegal.....but once you smoke dope out of it and it has thc on it then it becomes illegal.

That's a common argument but the fact is that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the bong will be used for. As far as I know, no customers have been prosecuted in this crackdown. This was mainly aimed at those selling the bongs. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I could really care less honestly. It's all between the potheads and the government.

[picindex]

Originally posted by EscortBiz
I think the war on drugs killed more people then the drugs itself, just make the shit legal

I think your 100% right... not to mention the money we have spent on that shit....

[chupacabra]

this reminds me of a recent incident where police decided that teenagers having *bottled water* in their posession was ample indication/probable cause that they were doing ecstacy... illicit pipe/bong traffic, it gets worse everyday..

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by picindex


I think your 100% right... not to mention the money we have spent on that shit....

I know me writing this wont matter but its mind blowing to think of it:

If drugs where legal

Way less street crime
Less Street gangs
Less Murder
No more billions being spent for nothing
No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them

Now that is illegal the people who want it get it one way or another, maybe someone here can explain why its good for it to be illegal

By they way I dont do drugs or smoke or anything juts think it should be legal

[BigFrog]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


That's a common argument but the fact is that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the bong will be used for. As far as I know, no customers have been prosecuted in this crackdown. This was mainly aimed at those selling the bongs. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I could really care less honestly. It's all between the potheads and the government.

agreed that it is a common arguement....but it's still correct. It isnt up to the government to assume we will use a product for illegal purposes.

I just hope the people arrested get a decent lawyer....there is no reason for them to go to jail.

Ashhahahahaha can suck my dick.

[RedShoe]

The 420 guys are temporarily down to regroup. They really are doing awesome in sales and so whatever they decied to sell even if it's 420 gear, maybe they could shift into a clothing line of 420 gear. Either way they are good guys. They'll be back up shortly.

[Gemini]

Bongs etc ARE illegal in many areas of the US, but being a minor thing as opposed to other crimes, the authorities leave them be until they create a problem or they have the time. They raid them locally from time to time, but one shuts down and some pothead opens another. They should INCREASE the prison time to KEEP them from opening in the first place.

Going after the online sites is a simpler process and they want to keep them from gaining a foothold on the internet.

-------------------
If drugs where legal

Way less street crime - MORE crime since the dopers would be actively seeking even MORE money for their dope

Less Street gangs - rigggggghhhht. They'd be fighting over who gets the extortion monies from what areas or turfs.

Less Murder - see above

No more billions being spent for nothing - no, it would be going to victim funds to pay for that sort of thing

No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them
- NOT a danger? Okkkkkkk. Just what I want to confront going to the store, some dopehead with his hand out and when I refuse, he gets aggravated, then my old man gets aggravated and someone is going to get seriously hurt or dead. Namely the dopehead. My idea of fun, sitting and explaining how a worthless dopehead ended up with his head smashed on the pavement.

Orrrr, explain why the guy was breaking into our house and ended up riddled with bullets and dawg bites.

I was young and DUMB once too, but I grew up and saw where that road can (and usually DOES) lead. There is a reason they call it dope. I even went back to that world for a short time and then it dawned on me that I had sunk down even further the second time around. I stopped then and I'll never go back OR condone dope again.

[Triple 6]

ashhahahahaha

ash hahahahaha

a s h c r o f t


hahaha!

[Mr.Fiction]

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=110865

[Toker]

Originally posted by CosmicKitten
US Attorney General targetting 'drug paraphernalia' sites:

'Officials said two investigations had put 11 illicit dotcom companies out of business. John Brown, acting chief of the Drug Enforcement Administration, said, "There are 11 dotcoms that are dot-gone."

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030224_588.html

Should I pull my vaporizer links? hehe

[Toker]

Let me stash this here before I get raided..LOL

[slavdogg]

Gemini, you've smoked yourself retarded

[LiveDose]

Originally posted by EscortBiz


I know me writing this wont matter but its mind blowing to think of it:

If drugs where legal

Way less street crime
Less Street gangs
Less Murder
No more billions being spent for nothing
No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them

Now that is illegal the people who want it get it one way or another, maybe someone here can explain why its good for it to be illegal

By they way I dont do drugs or smoke or anything juts think it should be legal

You forgot 50% of law enforcement on the unemployment line. Sad but true the drug trade creates a lot of governement jobs.

If you couldn't grow pot yourself and there was a way for the government to TAX it, it would be legal. Believe that.

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by LiveDose


If you couldn't grow pot yourself and there was a way for the government to TAX it, it would be legal. Believe that.

There is, a flat national tax of about 19% on all goods that does away with the income tax. This way a crack whore, pot head, a hooker all get to pay taxes from so called underground or black market economy.

[Joe Sixpack]

THANK YA JAYSUS!

THANK YA FROM PROTECTING ME FROM DRUGS!

ALL PRAISE JAYSUS!

I KNOW I WUZ WRONG BY SMOKIN' WEED AND I THANK YA JAYSUS 4 SHOWING ME THE WAY!

FORGIVE ME JAYSUS FOR ALL I HAVE DONE WRONG IN YOUR NAME!

I ACCEPT THE BIBLE AND ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN IT!

PROTECT ME FROM SATAN PLEASE JAYSUS!

Your disciple,
Joe Sixpack

P.S. I WILL NEVER BE BAD AGAIN LAWD! I SWEAR THIS TO THEE!

[LiveDose]

Wow, JoeSixpack's found God... This world is going downhill...

[Toker]

Originally posted by LiveDose
Wow, JoeSixpack's found God... This world is going downhill...

His dealer must have got busted..Now his only prob with drugs is getting them..LOL

[Toker]

Originally posted by Toker

How can there be 2 of us here?? I didn't post this???

[Socks]

Originally posted by EscortBiz


Way less street crime
Less Street gangs
Less Murder
No more billions being spent for nothing
No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them

Yeah but then all the drug dealers wouldn't have a job. Then they'd probably resort to doing something that actually AFFECTED people. I think you'd see violence go up, not down.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by Toker

How can there be 2 of us here?? I didn't post this???

You better quit that shit now, before your memory is completely gone!

[BigFrog]

Originally posted by Gemini
Bongs etc ARE illegal in many areas of the US, but being a minor thing as opposed to other crimes, the authorities leave them be until they create a problem or they have the time. They raid them locally from time to time, but one shuts down and some pothead opens another. They should INCREASE the prison time to KEEP them from opening in the first place.

Going after the online sites is a simpler process and they want to keep them from gaining a foothold on the internet.

-------------------
If drugs where legal

Way less street crime - MORE crime since the dopers would be actively seeking even MORE money for their dope

Less Street gangs - rigggggghhhht. They'd be fighting over who gets the extortion monies from what areas or turfs.

Less Murder - see above

No more billions being spent for nothing - no, it would be going to victim funds to pay for that sort of thing

No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them
- NOT a danger? Okkkkkkk. Just what I want to confront going to the store, some dopehead with his hand out and when I refuse, he gets aggravated, then my old man gets aggravated and someone is going to get seriously hurt or dead. Namely the dopehead. My idea of fun, sitting and explaining how a worthless dopehead ended up with his head smashed on the pavement.

Orrrr, explain why the guy was breaking into our house and ended up riddled with bullets and dawg bites.

I was young and DUMB once too, but I grew up and saw where that road can (and usually DOES) lead. There is a reason they call it dope. I even went back to that world for a short time and then it dawned on me that I had sunk down even further the second time around. I stopped then and I'll never go back OR condone dope again.

what dope are you referring to? if it's weed your referring to then you seriously need to get your head checked.

and for thinking a person needs more jail time for selling a bong

that's one hell of a stupid idea.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Gemini
Bongs etc ARE illegal in many areas of the US, but being a minor thing as opposed to other crimes, the authorities leave them be until they create a problem or they have the time. They raid them locally from time to time, but one shuts down and some pothead opens another. They should INCREASE the prison time to KEEP them from opening in the first place.

Going after the online sites is a simpler process and they want to keep them from gaining a foothold on the internet.

-------------------
If drugs where legal

Way less street crime - MORE crime since the dopers would be actively seeking even MORE money for their dope

Less Street gangs - rigggggghhhht. They'd be fighting over who gets the extortion monies from what areas or turfs.

Less Murder - see above

No more billions being spent for nothing - no, it would be going to victim funds to pay for that sort of thing

No more putting people in jail for so long when they are not a danger to society, and while they are in jail burning up billions to support them
- NOT a danger? Okkkkkkk. Just what I want to confront going to the store, some dopehead with his hand out and when I refuse, he gets aggravated, then my old man gets aggravated and someone is going to get seriously hurt or dead. Namely the dopehead. My idea of fun, sitting and explaining how a worthless dopehead ended up with his head smashed on the pavement.

Orrrr, explain why the guy was breaking into our house and ended up riddled with bullets and dawg bites.

I was young and DUMB once too, but I grew up and saw where that road can (and usually DOES) lead. There is a reason they call it dope. I even went back to that world for a short time and then it dawned on me that I had sunk down even further the second time around. I stopped then and I'll never go back OR condone dope again.

You stupid, ignorant bitch.

[Lane]

drugs kill

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by Lane
drugs kill

You are right, a study released today said that drugs, drinking and smoking kill 7 million people a year

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...cco_alcohol_dc

But the question is not if it kills people or not the question is that since 1989 when GW Bush Sr. annonced the war on drugs has anything really changed other then the hundreds of billions that where spent so called fighting it?

I looking this from a outside view I dont do any of the above but I still think its about time to legallize some of it.