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you can send a wire to a wrong name and it might go through...usually they just go through the numbers.

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So you think that even through is was through intermediary banks that this is true? These wires take on average 5 days from the UK to Italy.
The wire has to go through more than just the sending and receiving banks. Wonder why they want the company name if they don't need it, lol.
Anyway, all that is being discussed so far is a company has been scammed out of $3500 in a content deal, and they only wanna talk about the $70k deals they are getting.
I just tried to buy $3500 of content, and have not received anything for the money that was sent.
I'd surely would have handled this differently.

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Dude, you are totally out of control.

Yesterday I replied politely to your email full insults and my last reply was

"Hello,
I haven't signed any contract, that's the problem. And the IBAN doesn't belong to me. If I put your data and your name on a contract and I sign it, it doesn't mean that you're responsible for it. But don't worry, I'm sure we can find a way to fix this issue. I have just to speak with my lawyer tomorrow morning. I think one day more wouldn't be a big problem.

Thanks."

18 hours after this email you wrote me

"Well once again it seems you have gone silent. It would appear that you are not going to do the right thing. It's late in the day there and I've heard nothing. If I don't hear something positive from you in the next hour from now I will be turning this in to a blazing fire of hell! Not a threat just the plain truth. See ya on ALL the boards, oh and back on GFY. I'm putting together a list of the pure lies that you posted on GFY plus other documents I have from this transaction. We are filing a fraudulent transaction claim with are bank as well. Ready to rock?"

So I offered my help to fix this issue and I have to get insulted in each email? Plus you contacted ppl that i work with like Lykos telling that you are going "to do a war" to me?
We are not in jungle. Try to be professional and please write emails with less insults and more details and you'll see that things will be fixed pretty soon.

So my question is: do you want to fix this issue (even if I'm not responsible for anything but since there's my name i feel involved) or do you prefer going on with insults and BS?

sixpack

Your morning has come and gone, I sent the last email at about 6pm your time, so what are you talking about.

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Again, it's the 100th that I ask you for the receipt of the wire. I asked that yesterday several times in my emails and now I ask that here too.
Again: can you please send me the receipt of the wire?
I really want to help you fixing this issue but if you get rid of your insults in the email and you send me the docs that I ask you I could do that quicker :S

And for the record you are wrong again: since you are counting the minutes you sent 3 emails today...

1st at 5:43 PM (GMT+1) ... replied at 6:40 PM (GMT+1)
2nd at 8:00 PM (GMT+1) ... replied at 8:02 PM (GMT+1)
3rd at 8:20 PM (GMT+1) ... replied at 8:23 PM (GMT+1)

Can't you even remember when you sent me your emails?

And then you say and I went silent? Replying your emails with a delay between 3 and 50 minutes isn't "silent" here.

atom

I don't know either of you here but I can tell you this. Good business would be to give this Sixpack guy the content or send him a wire back. If you hired someone to represent your company and he ripped a client off, you are responsible.

Not very hard to understand.

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That's why I asked him for a receipt of the wire he sent.
I'm here waiting for it.
FYI it's 10:05 PM here so I'm going to leave soon. Just in case someone will claim that I'm silent while I sleep.

What drives me crazy is that he claims to have sent dozens and dozens of emails. I don't know if it's true or not.
We got just ONE email to our support address, here the text:

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[SelfShotBoys] support request from THIEF - user "ya right ass fuck"
E-mail: [email protected]
Subject: NEVER ON LINE ANYMORE THE THIEF MUST BE IN JAIL!

Message:
NEVER ON LINE ANYMORE THE THIEF MUST BE IN JAIL!
NEVER ON LINE ANYMORE THE THIEF MUST BE IN JAIL!
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Now, if you get an email like that would you think that this guy is the classic crazy user or a webmaster trying to communicate with you? To be honest I consider this kind of email pure spam. There is nothing regarding a possible issue in this email, no information or anything else.

I just asked him several times the receipt of the wire, nothing received yet. I'm not saying that he's wrong, I want just to go deeper.
I'm here waiting for his email, but he keeps not sending what I ask, the receipt of the wire.
Am I asking too much?

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there ya go...

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Simons, you should have a copy yourself!
Unless you want to continue playing the (wtf you talking about game) because Sixpack posted it on GFY for the industry to see!
I'm thinking you grabbed the cash to fund this 70K deal you keep bragging about.
Produce the content or refund his cash!

sixpack

I don't know if we have met but I think I love you! LOL

I have emailed him a copy of the receipt that he asked me for a 100 times, lol

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Next time when u need content hit me up. I have been selling content longer then anyone in here and I have never heard of this guys name. $70.000 in DVD sales sounds like a nice BS line. Fantasies

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harvey

on a side note, pretty funny how businesses are made here.

To Sixpack: is it really THAT HARD to send the requested info to the requested mail address? Really? It doesn't sound as if you have any interest in solving this.

To Simons: it's very easy to track the wire, specially if you and the guy who got the wire are in the same country, as it appears to be.

To both of you: keep this in a civilized manner and if needed, contact a lawyer.

Gee, I feel like dealing with kindergarten kids

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sorry, double post, GFY is bananas

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From harvey at 07:09 PM
At 6:38 I wrote

We needed to verify a few things and it took a good part of the day but he has it. And yes we want this resolved, we didn't want to be part of this crap in the first place.

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sixpack

We some of you had doubts that this guy is a THIEF. Just read on this is his last post"

We provided him the reciept of payment and he emailed me:



That was after I sent this.



As you all can see he said there would be resolution by Monday evening, it's now Tuesday and not a word!

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TheAccountant

I reply here as I did to the email you sent me 10 minutes before posting everything here.

Dude, seriously, you are the MOST unprofessional person I've ever worked with. Not only your message (the only one we got to our support email @selfshotboys.com) looked like sent from a drunk crazy man but even your "business" messages to this email are totally crazy. If you like to work in this way I feel sorry for people who hired you.

Every day I get and send dozens of emails and you are the only who've ever sent me something like

"Back to the boards I guess. now i need to post on ALL the boards!"
"NEVER ONLINE THIEF FUCKING SCAMMER"

I think you're not 12yo so I expect a little bit more professional communication from you.

Regarding the refund, it'll be performed tomorrow morning as agreed.

Thank You.

TheAccountant

And my final answer is.... dear Sixpack I tried to be nice and professional with you trying to assist you about everything regarding this issue.
It seems you like to be more a show man than a business man, so what I ask you is to have the owner of the company you work for contacting me regarding this matter. My communication with you ends here cause it's not possible to work with crazy people like you, totally unable to put together two sentences without an insult in the middle.

You can go on posting whatever you want here, it seems that you like a lot more doing your show instead of fixing some issues.

Again, you have my email, so now tell to who's in charge that since I consider you unable to keep a civil conversation I really want to deal with someone with a little more brain than you.

As for the data for the refund, please have the owner or someone else on behalf of him, sending me the details.
Thank You.

spiederman

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Did you attempt to rip off those other "dozens" of people out of $3500.00 ?
Dude, all you did in this thread was play fucking games and you're calling Sixpack unprofessional ?

The douchebag finally steps up to the plate!

TheAccountant

So... long short story...

1. Sixpack opens a thread regarding my company without contacting my company before
2. I jumped in this thread saying to contact me
3. He wrote me emails full of insults
4. We hardly found what went wrong and we offered to help him
5. He kept with the insults
6. I said that I thought to be able give him an answer by monday evening
7. After 24 hours he sent me an email and after 10 minutes he wrote on the board....

now... who's the clown?

We offered to help him and we investigated a found the issue, ready to get the refund and going after the guy who's done the scam. No, he keeps insulting. GFY

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well at least that wasn't awkward for the rest of us....

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Not cool.

MainstreamGuy

Never thought someone could refund a WIRE?..

WTF?

First time I hear about something like that. Or maybe its internal, in the same country?

I dont think someone can refund an international WIRE.

bean-aid

I'm just wondering:

1) Did the hired guy by simons scam sixpack?
2) Where is the money? In simons pocket or the hired guy's pocket?
3) If refund, is the bank doing the refund or simons? If simons, is he eating the loss?

If I was to respond to someone like sixpacks I would say this:

I didn't fucking get your wire. I think someone I gave some intimate details did. The money you sent went straight to his bank account and I did not receive any of it.
I will give you the content because I own it, and I am going after this mother fucker now!

- simon

just sayin'

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Crazy Drama.
I am hoping all people involved have it rectified!

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That's what I did:

I hired a guy to sell something on behalf of me. He scammed sixpack by selling content at a crazy low price. He got the money on his back account. I was totally not aware of ANYTHING.

In fact the first (and only) time we got an email from this sixpack to one of our OFFICIAL email addresses we "WTF! Who's this drunk crazy looser?" Not because we did know sixpack but the email was like "THIEF JAIL MONEY NOT ONLINE ANYMORE".

Now the problem is... who's in charge of everything? That's why I spent all my Monday dealing with my lawyer. Probably six-pack - judging how he writes and thinks - doesn't know how legal matters work and how much time they take.

At the end we decided to refund him by sending another wire to the same company that was scammed.

What drives me crazy is that we did something that we wasn't legally forced to do. I decided to refund the company he works for just because we are cool. And he keeps with his email full of things without any sense, insults and the show.

Actually sixpack could be sued for 2 offenses:

1) Publishing private data without being allowed by the other part involved.
2) Publishing private communication between two parts without the being allowed by the other part involved.

_Richard_

you're admitting that your employee scammed your customer

and now you're threatening to sue that customer?

just wanna clarify

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With all this third party scam shit going on, I'm wondering if this simons guy is related to Marlboroack.

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Just give the guy the content he was expecting and then go ass rape this fucker who scammed you.. then you look like the bigger man and maybe sixpack will be happy.. There is too much defensiveness in this post.. the guy got fucked over.. you may have too, but as the end user, I'd be fucking IRATE if I sent someone $3500 and got nothing..

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It's not so easy. The guy who's scammed him is not my employee since he doesn't work for me. He's just a sort of "broker" who gets % of the transaction. In fact he doesn't use any of our official email address.

So if a broker that you use scams someone on behalf of you, who's in charge of the scam?

Lets say that you contact me saying "hey, if you can sell that i give you %" ... and I "ok, i'll do" and then I'll use this info to scam people getting money on my personal bank account. Is it your fault? Are you responsible for my scam?

TheAccountant

I agree! But again what drives me crazy is:

1) Sixpack never sent any email to an official @dudescash.com email account. He just sent one email full of insults and NOTHING ELSE to an address we use for customer care of paysite members

2) He decided to open this thread BEFORE contacting US

3) After I asked him to send us some evidences regarding the issue he start sending several emails full of insults, threats and other weird things.

I asked him to deal directly with the director/owner of the company he works for. It seems to be a company based in UK. Tomorrow I'll be in London to sign a contract so we can fix the issue face to face but it seems impossible.

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simons should pay up. period.

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On Tuesday at 12:28pm he posted It's Thursday and still nothing.

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You better make more threads ..

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Where is Six's money simons ?
You said you were going to refund his $3.5k

Let me guess ;
1. You're a piece of shit low-life cocky ass Italian that orchestrated this entire scam just to fund a 70k deal.
(If there really is a 70k deal)

2. You denied everything until you were cornered, then, you decided to bring in some mysterious third party in to take the blame.
(Almost reminiscent to the tube sites blaming their fake (Admin Created) members for uploading copyrighted content to the site)

3. You promised to refund Six's money which you never did.
(The Italian Connection scam continues)

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simons' stories about 3rd party contractors selling his content, etc - sound like bullshit

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