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Old 02-20-2013, 02:43 PM   #151
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No it wasn't, The Egyptians well over 2,000 years ago not only knew the world was round, they had even measured it using shadows and got it quite accurate. But even before that going back to Persian or Babylonian astrologers 3,000 years ago. They knew the world was round.

In fact we have no written evidence of any ancient civilizations ever thinking the world was flat.

the first man to sail around the world and prove the world was round was Ferdinand Magellan, but even in his time, no one believed the world was flat. He just proved what everyone already knew

For some reason some people still believe that in Columbus time, people thought the world was flat, which is probably where you get your opinion from. But everybody knew that the world was a sphere by the time Columbus was born

Do US schools still teach the myth that Columbus proved the world was round or another period of time you are referring to?

Or did you pick that 'fact' up from watching cartoons?
i am well aware that the greeks knew the earth was not flat etc, i was not aware the egyptians knew it but whatever, that knowledge was not passed on and was basically forgotten, i was merely making a point which was easy to convey pointing out that the minority is not always wrong.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:44 PM   #152
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Good question. Blow your brains out so there is one less fucktard left to breed
coming from the douchebag with NOTHING to contribute to this thread but insults.... fuck off please
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:44 PM   #153
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why am i still awake lol,

first link imo irrelavent bc it is after the fact, it is well known that many nazis signed whatever they were told to after pressure or promises of a better life in the USA or whereever after the war.

Second link, interesting, Einsatzgruppen certainly did exist and certainly did execute people behind the front lines, but as i understand it, they executed partisans, communists, jews and lots of people... in other words the map just shows that they executed people. yeah ok, but that could be anyone..... it doesn't mention jews anywhere on that photo.

Seriously?? I mean really???? I don't mean to be insulting but...

JUDENFREI

The document, entitled "Jewish Executions Carried Out by Einsatzgruppen A" and stamped "Secret Reich Matter," shows the number of Jews executed (symbolized by coffins) in the Baltic states and Belorussia by late 1941. The legend near the bottom states that "the estimated number of Jews still on hand [was] 128,000."

Scholar right?

"it doesn't mention jews anywhere on that photo."

JUDENFREI then again at the bottom Juden.

I don't read German but I got that part.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:48 PM   #154
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Seriously?? I mean really???? I don't mean to be insulting but...

JUDENFREI

The document, entitled "Jewish Executions Carried Out by Einsatzgruppen A" and stamped "Secret Reich Matter," shows the number of Jews executed (symbolized by coffins) in the Baltic states and Belorussia by late 1941. The legend near the bottom states that "the estimated number of Jews still on hand [was] 128,000."

Scholar right?

"it doesn't mention jews anywhere on that photo."

JUDENFREI then again at the bottom Juden.

I don't read German but I got that part.
opps missed that, (tired remember)

interesting... ill have a closer look
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:49 PM   #155
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coming from the douchebag with NOTHING to contribute to this thread but insults.... fuck off please
Here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

That must all be bullshit. Riiiiight
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:50 PM   #156
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Tired is understandable.

Other wise I was gonna have to suggest you ask for a refund from that private school
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:50 PM   #157
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Here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

That must all be bullshit. Riiiiight
lol wikipedia.... funny
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:51 PM   #158
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Tired is understandable.

Other wise I was gonna have to suggest you ask for a refund from that private school
yeah man i should fucking go to sleep its like 9am here almost lol. ridiculous. wtf is with my sleep these days.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:53 PM   #159
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yeah man i should fucking go to sleep its like 9am here almost lol. ridiculous. wtf is with my sleep these days.
It's probably associated with whatever mental illness you have
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:57 PM   #160
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i am well aware that the greeks knew the earth was not flat etc, i was not aware the egyptians knew it but whatever, that knowledge was not passed on and was basically forgotten,
Wrong again. Stop getting your facts from cartoons.

No it wasn't forgotten and yes it was passed on. What you are quoting as fact is a complete myth. A modern day myth.

Almost no one in recorded history ever believed in a flat earth. The myth of the flat earth was stuck in our history books due to Irving in the 1800's writing that flat-Earth churchmen had opposed Columbus on the grounds that he would fall off the edge of the Earth if he tried to sail across the Atlantic. That was made up. It became a modern day myth.

It wasn't even believed even in Irvins time, it was only started to be believed when people arguing on Darwins side bought it up as fact, they used it as propaganda to show how people were once wrong. Like you are doing it now

They used it to back up their argument that Darwin was right, but it was propaganda that they knew not to have been true. (unlike you who doesn't know any better)

AGAIN. Almost no one in recorded history ever believed in a flat earth. It is a modern day myth. What we call in the UK "An old wives tale"

It is what uneducated idiots say when they are trying to back up an argument. But No, it is wrong. No no one ever believed the world was flat. No one.

You are wrong.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:27 PM   #161
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Wrong again. Stop getting your facts from cartoons.

No it wasn't forgotten and yes it was passed on. What you are quoting as fact is a complete myth. A modern day myth.

Almost no one in recorded history ever believed in a flat earth. The myth of the flat earth was stuck in our history books due to Irving in the 1800's writing that flat-Earth churchmen had opposed Columbus on the grounds that he would fall off the edge of the Earth if he tried to sail across the Atlantic. That was made up. It became a modern day myth.

It wasn't even believed even in Irvins time, it was only started to be believed when people arguing on Darwins side bought it up as fact, they used it as propaganda to show how people were once wrong. Like you are doing it now

They used it to back up their argument that Darwin was right, but it was propaganda that they knew not to have been true. (unlike you who doesn't know any better)

AGAIN. Almost no one in recorded history ever believed in a flat earth. It is a modern day myth. What we call in the UK "An old wives tale"

It is what uneducated idiots say when they are trying to back up an argument. But No, it is wrong. No no one ever believed the world was flat. No one.

You are wrong.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:32 PM   #162
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I have been to several camps and seen with my own eyes ovens, gas chambers and mass grave sites.
What about those gas chambers made you believe that people were executed in them?

Were there fingernail marks on the walls? Blood all over? What exactly did you see?

We know they were used for delousing, but as execution chambers? Show me a photo of Jews packed in a gas chamber. And don't tell me no such photo exists. If MILLIONS of people were killed in this manner, photos should exist. German soldiers are going to occasionally photograph it. Don't even try to deny that.
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Once again Matt, just for you, the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, testified frankly about the gassing of more than a million Jews at the Auschwitz-Birkenau killing center during the war.

The Nuremberg trials of Nazis that took place in 1945. Not many years later with confused or otherwise altered memories.

Even the Germans who testified said it happened as we know it did today. They didn't deny the Holocaust happened, they claimed to be following Government orders.


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"Eyewitness testimony from both perpetrators and survivors laid the foundation for much of what we know about the Holocaust, including details of the Auschwitz death machinery, atrocities committed by the Einsatzgruppen and other SS and police units, the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto, and the original statistical estimate of six million murdered Jews. Many people directly involved in the killing program died before the end of the war, but the Allies interrogated many of those who were still alive in preparation for the trial. None of the perpetrators denied the Holocaust. Most just tried to deflect their responsibility for the killings.

Three key perpetrators gave evidence directly related to the Holocaust: Hermann Göring, the highest official of the Nazi state tried at Nuremberg, testified openly and frankly about the persecution of German Jews from the rise of the Nazi party to power in 1933 until the outbreak of war in 1939; Otto Ohlendorf testified directly about his unit, Einsatzgruppe D, killing 90,000 Jews in the southern Ukraine in 1941; and the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, testified frankly about the gassing of more than a million Jews at the Auschwitz-Birkenau killing center during the war. All three claimed that they carried out the legitimate orders of the state.

While the testimony of perpetrators is often chilling in its frankness about the killing program, testimony from survivors, then and today, is often the best antidote to Holocaust denial. Holocaust survivors directly experienced Nazi genocidal policies. Their testimony is personal, immediate, and, for this reason, compelling."
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