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EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 08:30 AM

Sad story, but look on why they really died, do you think it would happen if duckin RIDGE would keep is fuckin mouth shut and not scare the living shit out of people?

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030217_809.html

By the way Ridge said he will lower the alert color

steffie · 02-17-2003, 08:34 AM

Idiot kids,,,

Morons.. I wanna just go a kick somebody,, that is horrible

Babaganoosh · 02-17-2003, 08:36 AM

What does that have to do with Ridge? It's just a matter of someone spraying pepper spray in an enclosed space. If there is a fan or any kind of air movement in the room, people will be affected and there will probably be a stampede.

EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
What does that have to do with Ridge? It's just a matter of someone spraying pepper spray in an enclosed space. If there is a fan or any kind of air movement in the room, people will be affected and there will probably be a stampede.

Listen people have sprayed paper spray before ive been to clubs in NY where the shit happed but when you got this big cock alert bullshit 21 people die from panic

Do you understand what type of panic has to be going on to have so many people crushed to death, I mean this is an outrage

Hot Tropical Babes · 02-17-2003, 08:39 AM

I agree, its a horrible thing that happened, but what does it have to do with the color of the alert?

People panic, no matter what alert is out.

I hate packed places like that. Its an accident waiting to happen.
Especially when most of the people are fucked up to begin with.

EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes
I agree, its a horrible thing that happened, but what does it have to do with the color of the alert?

People panic, no matter what alert is out.

I hate packed places like that. Its an accident waiting to happen.
Especially when most of the people are fucked up to begin with.

Read my previous post, Ive been to clubs in NY shit happenes all the time, a fuckin kid gets pissed off and he sprays mace but trust me on a usall night noone gets crushed to death yet alone 21 people because of it

Sarah_Jayne · 02-17-2003, 08:45 AM

its been the lead story over here for most of the day. They had a reporter from one of the chicago radio stations on and he said some of the people he interviewed from the club said some of the people were panicing thinking there was an attack. How true that is is a different matter but that is what he said.

Jeffery · 02-17-2003, 08:45 AM

It is a bit assumptious to say if the terror alert was lower, this would not have happened, but I definitely agree that these alerts could put panic in people's minds and assume pepper spray was something else.

If I thought a poison was being sprayed, I'd be getting fuck out of there too.

I've been in a club where pepper spray was used by someone, it just pissed people off. That was a few years ago. It is definitely strange hundreds of people would panic because of pepper spray.

Babaganoosh · 02-17-2003, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Read my previous post, Ive been to clubs in NY shit happenes all the time, a fuckin kid gets pissed off and he sprays mace but trust me on a usall night noone gets crushed to death yet alone 21 people because of it

Must not be very small clubs you are going to. If pepper spray is used in an enclosed space, it burns. People panic when their throats and eyes burn. Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with that silly terror alert.

Hot Tropical Babes · 02-17-2003, 08:46 AM

its like a herd of cattle, on of them gets spooked your gonna have a stampeede.

"There were more than 1,500 people in the two-story Epitome Night Club on the city's South Side when someone released pepper spray or Mace into the air sometime after 2 a.m., "

If someone releases pepper spray in the room, I dont think people are running because of the nations alert status,,, I think "air" was what they wanted to get to.

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 08:46 AM

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"I saw them taking out a pregnant woman," Thomas said. "She was in bad shape. I saw at least 10 lifeless bodies."

What the fuck was a pregnant woman doing in a nightclub anyway? That just pisses me off.

Scott McD · 02-17-2003, 08:48 AM

Correct...

12clicks · 02-17-2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Read my previous post, Ive been to clubs in NY shit happenes all the time, a fuckin kid gets pissed off and he sprays mace but trust me on a usall night noone gets crushed to death yet alone 21 people because of it

ok, so you're a clubber. big deal. It doesn't make your rant any less wrong.

EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

ok, so you're a clubber. big deal. It doesn't make your rant any less wrong.

WTF is your problem?

Interlude · 02-17-2003, 09:01 AM

Always trying to blame someone for something... dumb, panicky people are dumb panicky people.

Scott McD · 02-17-2003, 09:03 AM

Also correct...

sherie · 02-17-2003, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

What the fuck was a pregnant woman doing in a nightclub anyway? That just pisses me off.

What, just because you are pregnant you have to stay at home? What if she was drinking water and wanted to hang out with some friends??

Alky · 02-17-2003, 09:06 AM

the last thing i would think about if someone sprayed pepper spray would be a terrorist. you'd just want to get the fuck out.

EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
What, just because you are pregnant you have to stay at home? What if she was drinking water and wanted to hang out with some friends??

True, and what if she was trying to track down the guy who got her pregnant?

Danny_C · 02-17-2003, 09:10 AM

The terror alert probably didn't cause those deaths, but it sure couldn't have helped.

12clicks · 02-17-2003, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

WTF is your problem?

a compulsion to point out stupidity.

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
What, just because you are pregnant you have to stay at home? What if she was drinking water and wanted to hang out with some friends??

Don't get me fuckin started on that!! Just don't! There are plenty of constructive, fun things a pregnant woman can do with her time without having to go to a fuckin nightclub!

It's total bullshit for a pregnant woman to go somewhere like a nightclub till 2:30 am, where people drink, do drugs, and nasty shit CAN happen very quickly. It's an unnecessary risk.

The problem with some women is that they get pregnant and can't face the fact that they're not living JUST for themselves anymore. If you can't handle the fact that you're gonna have to make some lifestyle changes for your unborn child, then for fuck's sake... DO NOT GET PREGNANT.

Thank you. Good night.

EscortBiz · 02-17-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Don't get me fuckin started on that!! Just don't! There are plenty of constructive, fun things a pregnant woman can do with her time without having to go to a fuckin nightclub!

It's total bullshit for a pregnant woman to go somewhere like a nightclub till 2:30 am, where people drink, do drugs, and nasty shit CAN happen very quickly. It's an unnecessary risk.

The problem with some women is that they get pregnant and can't face the fact that they're not living JUST for themselves anymore. If you can't handle the fact that you're gonna have to make some lifestyle changes for your unborn child, then for fuck's sake... DO NOT GET PREGNANT.

Thank you. Good night.

True too

stocktrader23 · 02-17-2003, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
What, just because you are pregnant you have to stay at home? What if she was drinking water and wanted to hang out with some friends??

They should all be smart enough to hang out somewhere a little safer. Everyone knows you get shoved and knocked around in a club, especially a big one. It's retarded for a pregnant woman to be there. Shit happens.

Easton · 02-17-2003, 09:19 AM

that same thing happened when i was at Club Living about a year and a half ago (just after 9/11)... i took off my shirt and held it over my mouth, no big deal... cops and ambulance evacuated the place (about 500 people min)... nobody got trampled or died... what a bunch of morons they are.

btw, i love the fact that a pregnant woman was in a smokey nite club at 2am - prolly whacked out on crack too... hello???

Connor · 02-17-2003, 09:21 AM

EscortBiz, don't let 12clicks bother you... I learned long ago he's not worth the effort. He makes his living talking shit on message boards... that's basically what he has to offer. Except when it comes to me. I'm sure he'll have some nice words for me in a bit... we have a wonderful relationship.

As for this comment:

"Must not be very small clubs you are going to. If pepper spray is used in an enclosed space, it burns. People panic when their throats and eyes burn. Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with that silly terror alert."

All of this is just us sitting on a chat board and guessing, but I can't remember ever hearing of 21 people being trampled to death before this because of pepper spray in the air. So yeah, it seems likely that the terrorist threat in general is involved in this scenario. That said, the alternative is to not warn people when there's credible evidence of a possible terrorist strike, and I'm quite certain it wouldn't sit well with Americans if thousands died after the government knew there was evidence of a possible attack and said nothing. So while I do think the threat level played in to the deaths, I think the people ultimately responsible for the deaths are the trampling, panicking masses who packed into that night club.

12clicks · 02-17-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Connor
EscortBiz, don't let 12clicks bother you... I learned long ago he's not worth the effort. He makes his living talking shit on message boards... that's basically what he has to offer. Except when it comes to me. I'm sure he'll have some nice words for me in a bit... we have a wonderful relationship.

As for this comment:

"Must not be very small clubs you are going to. If pepper spray is used in an enclosed space, it burns. People panic when their throats and eyes burn. Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with that silly terror alert."

All of this is just us sitting on a chat board and guessing, but I can't remember ever hearing of 21 people being trampled to death before this because of pepper spray in the air. So yeah, it seems likely that the terrorist threat in general is involved in this scenario. That said, the alternative is to not warn people when there's credible evidence of a possible terrorist strike, and I'm quite certain it wouldn't sit well with Americans if thousands died after the government knew there was evidence of a possible attack and said nothing. So while I do think the threat level played in to the deaths, I think the people ultimately responsible for the deaths are the trampling, panicking masses who packed into that night club.

you flatter yourself thinking I'd remember you.
wonder who you were before "connor 5 posts"

(I don't really wonder)

Sarah_Jayne · 02-17-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Alky
the last thing i would think about if someone sprayed pepper spray would be a terrorist. you'd just want to get the fuck out.

Panic breeds panic...say you didn't notice the spray at first but you see people stampeeding to the door in a mass panic. Most people panic when they see people panicing. They don't stop to reason out what it is.

Gary · 02-17-2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
What, just because you are pregnant you have to stay at home? What if she was drinking water and wanted to hang out with some friends??

And you belive that?

She was there cause she was a gangster

Danny_C · 02-17-2003, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc

Panic breeds panic...say you didn't notice the spray at first but you see people stampeeding to the door in a mass panic. Most people panic when they see people panicing. They don't stop to reason out what it is.

Very true.

sherie · 02-17-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

They should all be smart enough to hang out somewhere a little safer. Everyone knows you get shoved and knocked around in a club, especially a big one. It's retarded for a pregnant woman to be there. Shit happens.

Hmm, and what is safer? Crossing the street can be harmful, going shopping can be harmful, driving a car can be harmful, who are we to tell someone that they cannot go to a nightclub because they are pregnant. I am not saying that it is something that I would do, but it does happen, why should we judge, there are pregnant women that are still talent/content that people push, is that not harmful?

It's not a matter of what I believe, I just don't think that we should judge her based on the fact that she was out at a night club.

12clicks · 02-17-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by sherie

It's not a matter of what I believe, I just don't think that we should judge her based on the fact that she was out at a night club.

pregnant and 2:30 in the morning?

I'll be the judge.

Easton · 02-17-2003, 09:45 AM

don't people know that nite clubs have a risk element attached?

just this past friday nite, some guy got gunned down right in front of the club we were at (Bubbles) on St. Laurent - we came out around 3:30am and the cops had the whole street section taped off and were taking pics of the scene while the ambulance crew were bagging and tagging the body.

and i live in Montreal, not Chicago or NYC, where it must be 100x worse... call me old fashioned, but it ain't no place for a girl who's preggers, even if she was "drinking water" (to wash down her E or speed perhaps)... LOL

Babaganoosh · 02-17-2003, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Connor

As for this comment:

"Must not be very small clubs you are going to. If pepper spray is used in an enclosed space, it burns. People panic when their throats and eyes burn. Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with that silly terror alert."

All of this is just us sitting on a chat board and guessing, but I can't remember ever hearing of 21 people being trampled to death before this because of pepper spray in the air. So yeah, it seems likely that the terrorist threat in general is involved in this scenario. That said, the alternative is to not warn people when there's credible evidence of a possible terrorist strike, and I'm quite certain it wouldn't sit well with Americans if thousands died after the government knew there was evidence of a possible attack and said nothing. So while I do think the threat level played in to the deaths, I think the people ultimately responsible for the deaths are the trampling, panicking masses who packed into that night club.

So if a clear cause can't be determined, we should just automatically assume it was because of terrorism?

stocktrader23 · 02-17-2003, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
Hmm, and what is safer? Crossing the street can be harmful, going shopping can be harmful, driving a car can be harmful, who are we to tell someone that they cannot go to a nightclub because they are pregnant. I am not saying that it is something that I would do, but it does happen, why should we judge, there are pregnant women that are still talent/content that people push, is that not harmful?

It's not a matter of what I believe, I just don't think that we should judge her based on the fact that she was out at a night club.

A nightclub is crowded, has fights often, smokey as hell, etc. I didn't say she should be out doing a porno shoot either. It irritates me when people compare crossing the street to shit like this. Unless your talking about the street at the Daytona 500 that's crazy. You can die doing anything but don't put an unborn baby in a more dangerous situation than you have to just so you can talk to friends.

sherie · 02-17-2003, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

pregnant and 2:30 in the morning?

I'll be the judge.

Of course you will!! I would expect nothing less!

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
Hmm, and what is safer? Crossing the street can be harmful, going shopping can be harmful, driving a car can be harmful, who are we to tell someone that they cannot go to a nightclub because they are pregnant. I am not saying that it is something that I would do, but it does happen, why should we judge, there are pregnant women that are still talent/content that people push, is that not harmful?

It's not a matter of what I believe, I just don't think that we should judge her based on the fact that she was out at a night club.

Sheri, I MUST get to sleep now.

But I will address some of the things you said:

1) Crossing the street, going to the mall, and driving a car CAN indeed be harmful. But these are things we NEED to do in most cases. Not the same as going to a nightclub where drunks can get into fights and knock you down, depending on where you live, there may be smokers and second hand smoke in the air; and shit like pple slipping you something in your drink or even like everyone is saying here... spraying pepper spray in the air. Totally unnecessary and uncalled for when you are with child.

2) I don't agree with pregnant women as content, but again, we may be talking NECESSITY there. They may need the money to support their coming child, who knows? So I won't judge those women. But any woman who thinks a nightclub PACKED with over 1000 people is SAFE is just fucking STUPID. So yes, I will judge that woman. She shouldn't have been there! Period. Once she got to the entrance and saw how packed it was, she should have turned around and left.

It's called lack of better judgement. And she paid the price. Sadly, so did her unborn child for her stupidity.

And that is worth my 4 cents.

sherie · 02-17-2003, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

A nightclub is crowded, has fights often, smokey as hell, etc. I didn't say she should be out doing a porno shoot either. It irritates me when people compare crossing the street to shit like this. Unless your talking about the street at the Daytona 500 that's crazy. You can die doing anything but don't put an unborn baby in a more dangerous situation than you have to just so you can talk to friends.

Great and I respect your opinion, I am not going to debate the pros and cons of being pregnant in a nightclub....

I stand by my statements and you can stand by yours, I just think judging someone based on the fact that she was in a nightclub is unfair.

Not sure about the smoke laws out there, but here 99% of the bars are smoke free, if your at a ghetto bar then you can expect fights, but that is normally not the case...like I said I may not agree with it, but I am simply not going to judge her because she was at the wrong place at the wrong time!

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
...like I said I may not agree with it, but I am simply not going to judge her because she was at the wrong place at the wrong time!

Half of that statement is correct. She was in the wrong place.

sherie · 02-17-2003, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Half of that statement is correct. She was in the wrong place.

LOL your opinion!! Go and get some sleep!!

Then we can discuss the other 21 people that actually died!!

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
LOL your opinion!! Go and get some sleep!!

Then we can discuss the other 21 people that actually died!!

Very true.

Thank you.

BJ · 02-17-2003, 10:07 AM

lack of education is to blame.

when I was 18-19 I worked at river west in chicago (a brewery) that on saturday nights had parties hosted by BET. A lot of people were armed. Alot of bullshit gang related fights, management got robbed at gunpoint several times.

I doubt people were stampeding because they thought of chemical weopons, they stampeded cuz they thought someone was going to pull a gun.

sherie · 02-17-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Very true.

Thank you.

Your welcome!! Night nite!!

Ambergirl · 02-17-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Listen people have sprayed paper spray before ive been to clubs in NY where the shit happed but when you got this big cock alert bullshit 21 people die from panic

Do you understand what type of panic has to be going on to have so many people crushed to death, I mean this is an outrage

This is an outrage! And of course everyone panicked more than they would have because of the present state of world affairs...it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

And regarding the pregnant woman...just because she's "with child" doesn't make her an invalid that has to stay locked up in the house. Shit, what year is this anyway...1952?!?

Personally speaking, it is HER choice and NOT for any strangers to judge.

Libertine · 02-17-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by sherie

Not sure about the smoke laws out there, but here 99% of the bars are smoke free

Could you tell me where you live? Just so I can make sure never to go there.

Gman.357 · 02-17-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Ambergirl

And regarding the pregnant woman...just because she's "with child" doesn't make her an invalid that has to stay locked up in the house. Shit, what year is this anyway...1952?!?

Personally speaking, it is HER choice and NOT for any strangers to judge.

Not locked up in the house, but not in a fuckin nightclub either. No, this isn't 1952, which is why women should be smarter and have some fucking common sense.

Did you even bother to read the back and forth about this issue above? And still you think it's ok to be in a nightclub pregnant?

My wife is currently pregnant. I thank GOD she's not dumb enough to still want to go to nightclubs and bars while she's carrying.

Guess what?? There are other things to do when you're pregnant that are FUN and SAFE... just think about it a little harder.

"I keep trying to get out, and they pull me back in!" --- Al Pacino

sherie · 02-17-2003, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Could you tell me where you live? Just so I can make sure never to go there.

Dude I live in Toronto....Some of the bars that I go to allow smoking, because that is where I choose to go, however, there are a great majority of clubs down here that do not allow it....

tony286 · 02-17-2003, 10:30 AM

Its securties fault from what I read they used the spray to stop the fight. I bounced for 10 yrs and we never dreamed of using mace or pepper spray. If you are afraid of getting between two people you have no business working security in a club.

Ambergirl · 02-17-2003, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Not locked up in the house, but not in a fuckin nightclub either. No, this isn't 1952, which is why women should be smarter and have some fucking common sense.

Did you even bother to read the back and forth about this issue above? And still you think it's ok to be in a nightclub pregnant?

My wife is currently pregnant. I thank GOD she's not dumb enough to still want to go to nightclubs and bars while she's carrying.

Guess what?? There are other things to do when you're pregnant that are FUN and SAFE... just think about it a little harder.

"I keep trying to get out, and they pull me back in!" --- Al Pacino

I understand why it's such an emotional issue for you since your wife is pregnant. But again....it is NOT for you to judge, period.

pornjudge · 02-17-2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
Sad story, but look on why they really died, do you think it would happen if duckin RIDGE would keep is fuckin mouth shut and not scare the living shit out of people?

http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030217_809.html

By the way Ridge said he will lower the alert color

Here is some pics from the club:

Name: The Epitome Nightclub
Location: Chicago, IL
Capacity: 1,000 Indoors

02-17-2003, 08:30 AM	#1
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Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	I agree, its a horrible thing that happened, but what does it have to do with the color of the alert? People panic, no matter what alert is out. I hate packed places like that. Its an accident waiting to happen. Especially when most of the people are fucked up to begin with. __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP Trade with Titman

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Jeffery Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Awgtrade Posts: 485	It is a bit assumptious to say if the terror alert was lower, this would not have happened, but I definitely agree that these alerts could put panic in people's minds and assume pepper spray was something else. If I thought a poison was being sprayed, I'd be getting fuck out of there too. I've been in a club where pepper spray was used by someone, it just pissed people off. That was a few years ago. It is definitely strange hundreds of people would panic because of pepper spray. __________________ icq: 20427689 AWGTrade - Free C-coded traffic management system

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	its been the lead story over here for most of the day. They had a reporter from one of the chicago radio stations on and he said some of the people he interviewed from the club said some of the people were panicing thinking there was an attack. How true that is is a different matter but that is what he said.

02-17-2003, 08:46 AM	#10
Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	its like a herd of cattle, on of them gets spooked your gonna have a stampeede. "There were more than 1,500 people in the two-story Epitome Night Club on the city's South Side when someone released pepper spray or Mace into the air sometime after 2 a.m., " If someone releases pepper spray in the room, I dont think people are running because of the nations alert status,,, I think "air" was what they wanted to get to. __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP Trade with Titman

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Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	Always trying to blame someone for something... dumb, panicky people are dumb panicky people.

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	the last thing i would think about if someone sprayed pepper spray would be a terrorist. you'd just want to get the fuck out.

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Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	that same thing happened when i was at Club Living about a year and a half ago (just after 9/11)... i took off my shirt and held it over my mouth, no big deal... cops and ambulance evacuated the place (about 500 people min)... nobody got trampled or died... what a bunch of morons they are. btw, i love the fact that a pregnant woman was in a smokey nite club at 2am - prolly whacked out on crack too... hello??? __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

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Connor Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,294	EscortBiz, don't let 12clicks bother you... I learned long ago he's not worth the effort. He makes his living talking shit on message boards... that's basically what he has to offer. Except when it comes to me. I'm sure he'll have some nice words for me in a bit... we have a wonderful relationship. As for this comment: "Must not be very small clubs you are going to. If pepper spray is used in an enclosed space, it burns. People panic when their throats and eyes burn. Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with that silly terror alert." All of this is just us sitting on a chat board and guessing, but I can't remember ever hearing of 21 people being trampled to death before this because of pepper spray in the air. So yeah, it seems likely that the terrorist threat in general is involved in this scenario. That said, the alternative is to not warn people when there's credible evidence of a possible terrorist strike, and I'm quite certain it wouldn't sit well with Americans if thousands died after the government knew there was evidence of a possible attack and said nothing. So while I do think the threat level played in to the deaths, I think the people ultimately responsible for the deaths are the trampling, panicking masses who packed into that night club. __________________ YNOT v5 IS NOW LIVE! \| SEEN YNOT MAIL YET?

02-17-2003, 09:45 AM	#33
Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	don't people know that nite clubs have a risk element attached? just this past friday nite, some guy got gunned down right in front of the club we were at (Bubbles) on St. Laurent - we came out around 3:30am and the cops had the whole street section taped off and were taking pics of the scene while the ambulance crew were bagging and tagging the body. and i live in Montreal, not Chicago or NYC, where it must be 100x worse... call me old fashioned, but it ain't no place for a girl who's preggers, even if she was "drinking water" (to wash down her E or speed perhaps)... LOL __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

02-17-2003, 10:07 AM	#42
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	lack of education is to blame. when I was 18-19 I worked at river west in chicago (a brewery) that on saturday nights had parties hosted by BET. A lot of people were armed. Alot of bullshit gang related fights, management got robbed at gunpoint several times. I doubt people were stampeding because they thought of chemical weopons, they stampeded cuz they thought someone was going to pull a gun.

02-17-2003, 10:30 AM	#48
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Its securties fault from what I read they used the spray to stop the fight. I bounced for 10 yrs and we never dreamed of using mace or pepper spray. If you are afraid of getting between two people you have no business working security in a club. Last edited by tony299; 02-17-2003 at 10:33 AM..