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RyuLion 11-14-2012 09:15 AM

lol.........

http://www.examiner.com/article/citi...-united-states

Shotsie 11-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19309821)
So are you trying to say that rich white people and lunatic fringe evangelicals make up the entire 48% of the US population that voted for them? You mean to say there are no rich white people or lunatic fringe evangelicals firmly entrenched in the Democrat camp? No racist Democrats? No voter suppression tactics used by Democrats? Is it really is just a Republicans = bad, Democrats = good view of the world for you? Would a one party state be more to your liking?

In so many words, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Mitt Romney only carried white males - most of whom are affluent, no doubt - and it is my contention that the Republican policy positions and rhetoric have succeeded in driving every other minority and plurality in the electorate out of the GOP camp, while Democratic rhetoric and policy positions have encouraged a much larger, much more viable electoral tent. This is simply true. Unless the GOP embraces a new American electorate, one in which the fastest growing cohort is one that they have sufficiently alienated to have assured Obama's this week?s victory, they are a party destined for the margins.

And really, in comparison with the bigotry that underlies many of the right-leaning stances on immigration, voter suppression, privacy rights for women, etc. etc., that shit is absurd and embarrassing. The Democratic party absolutely does not support that shit. And when Democratic leaders have extreme opinions forced upon them - remember Obama?s minister, Reverend Wright for example - they stand up and make the distinctions between those opinions and the party platform. Not so for the Tea Party fringe, or even for many maintream Republicans. Mitt Romney refused to repudiate his support for Richard Mourdock after that provocative little statement that equated rape with divine purpose in Indiana. But the voters of Indiana reputiated Richard Mourdock. And the voters nationwide repudiated Mitt Romney.

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Seriously. Nothing is that cut-and-dry and you can't project your disdain for the Republicans onto everyone in the entire country. Not every Republican supporter is a rich, white, evangelical teabagger who hates blacks, women, hispanics, gays and kittens.
Yeah, but we're not talking about the entire country here, are we? I do indeed have little regard for the Republican party as a whole. It has embraced what it believes to be a philosophy against high taxation and government intervention at all points that it equates with liberty. I see instead greed and selfishness and a disregard for the responsibilities of citizenship. Furthermore, the Republican party has made no efforts to divorce itself from the statements of those in its ranks who would be so extreme and absurd as to maintan a ridiculous, infantile argument against the citizenship of a president with whom they disagree. It has failed to respond forcefully when some of those attacks have ventured into statements that are overtly racist and xenophobic. Until this party begins to evoke any core value with which I can treat seriously, I will regard it as an intellectual and political black hole and I will say so willingly.

I mean, it's pretty obvious my politics would require a contempt for the Republican party and its positions, as I am sure the Republican party would have contempt for my party affiliations and positions. So fucking what?

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And sure people can go ahead and vote for whoever the hell they please. The problem is that are too many low information voters out there who have no idea what is in their best interest but just vote based on identity politics. The number one thing that is in everyone's best interest right now is solving the fiscal crisis.
Oh, really? Wow. You really are something else. Seems to me that you're the one who would prefer a one-party state. Thank God we have Eonblue here to let us all know what's in our best interest. I'll tell you what buddy, why don't you draw up an aptitude test that we can administer to voters to tell whether or not they are capable of casting the correct vote. You could devise the questions and judge the answers. And so improve the American electorate that the outcomes would certainly not cause you the frustration that you currently endure. Our collective gratitude would ensue, no doubt.

Why bother with the entire democratic dynamic? Better for all of us if you and those like-minded but otherwise thwarted observers of the American experiment could be engaged to make the decision for us, since you seem to have a direct pipeline to our best interests. That would certainly achieve a better result than the process of government of the people, by the people and for the people. It?s about time we got rid of that weakass bullshit, anyway.

Shotsie 11-14-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19310171)
Just a few professors - now respond with one white sitting professor who advocates exterminating blacks - I'm waiting.

I guess first we'll have to wait for you to tell us how the views of this professor reflect upon, or are in any way associated with the platform of the Democratic party.

Really pathetic.

Coup 11-15-2012 02:42 AM

http://www.truthdig.com/images/carto...ionist_500.jpg

LA Crew 11-16-2012 01:43 AM

http://www.westernherald.com/wp-cont...55mo1_1280.png

Over 700,000 signatures have been placed on the petitions in favor of secession and Texas is leading the way with over 105,000.

RKLover 11-16-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19309398)
...In 2009, the Democrats became the first government in the history of the planet to establish annual trillion-dollar deficits as a permanent feature of life...

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/de...-trillion.html

If this was a not a political fluff piece from the Opinions and Editorials, the OC Register would win a nice award for inaccurate journalism.

The Governments Fiscal Calendar runs from October 1st to September 30th. Fiscal 2009 begins October 1st, 2008. The 2009 budget was written and submitted to Congress by the Bush Administration. Then we tacked on the Bank Bailouts, the AIG Bailout and the Auto Bailout.

Seriously, the nations biggest problem is not the poor. It is the greed of the rich who pay lower tax rates than the middle class and our continuous Corporate Welfare. Corporate Welfare comes in the form of Tax breaks, Subsidies and Bailouts.

Still, conservatives run around bitching about people living off the Government when we spent three times as much on AIG in 2009 than we did on Welfare. And over 30% of that AIG money was paid out to European banks to keep them from collapsing.

Your welcome Europe. All those Euro's flooding into our housing market were part of the cause of the over inflation of housing prices. Serious investors know that Real Estate is only profitable at 9.5 to 10 times annual rents. Thanks to the rest of the world, my house went up to 35 times annual rents - before dropping back to 10 times. Yep. The U.S. Taxpayers picked up the tab for both our and your bankers shitty investments.

Jman 11-16-2012 07:36 AM

If New York makes effort to speak french we will gladly accept them in our loving Quebec Family :upsidedow:1orglaugh

LAJ 11-16-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LA Crew (Post 19316233)

Over 700,000 signatures have been placed on the petitions in favor of secession and Texas is leading the way with over 105,000.

Given this state has over 25,000,000 people that isn't even a piss drop in the bucket. I'm actually surprised that TX only has 100K signatures. There's gotta be 5 or even 10 million rednecks in this state old enough to know better.

Tom_PM 11-16-2012 09:28 AM

This shit still up near the top? lmao.

Sour grapes people, sour grapes.

I felt like that when George Bush Junior won by a pubic hairs worth of votes in Ohio and declared it was a mandate for his agenda. He got that political capital and he intended to spend it.. remember? Some of us do.

4 more years. Maybe that's enough time to change some hearts and minds.

MasterBlow 11-17-2012 12:31 PM

I wonder if the people who have signed these petitions know that this is not going to happen. Do they understand the consequences if they could?

LA Crew 11-18-2012 06:45 AM

If you are serious about not wanting these US any more then Canada remains an option.


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