Sandy was HAARP Climate Change False Flag

[wehateporn]

Bloomberg endorses Obama, citing Sandy and climate change

You heard it first on GFY

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...te-change?lite

"New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg endorsed President Barack Obama on Thursday, invoking Hurricane Sandy and the president's work to address climate change.

As New York reels from the fallout of this week's hurricane, which caused 37 deaths in the city, Bloomberg said Obama was better-suited than Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to curb carbon emissions.

"The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City and much of the Northeast ? in lost lives, lost homes and lost business ? brought the stakes of Tuesday?s presidential election into sharp relief," Bloomberg wrote. "Our climate is changing. And while the increase in extreme weather we have experienced in New York City and around the world may or may not be the result of it, the risk that it might be ? given this week's devastation ? should compel all elected leaders to take immediate action."
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The three-term mayor and billionaire further lauded Obama for taking "major steps to reduce our carbon consumption." In turn, Bloomberg said that on the issue of climate change, Romney had "reversed course, abandoning the very cap-and-trade program he once supported."

A former Republican who has since declared himself independent, Bloomberg did not make an endorsement for president in 2008. He cited other issues, including Obama's health care reform law, approach to abortion rights and support for same-sex marriage, in reaching his conclusion."

"I'm honored to have Mayor Bloomberg's endorsement. I deeply respect him for his leadership in business, philanthropy and government, and appreciate the extraordinary job he's doing right now, leading New York City through these difficult days," Obama said in a statement.

The endorsement comes, though, amid one of the worst storms to batter the New York area in recent history, Obama's response to which has drawn him plaudits from a bipartisan array of figures, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R).

Obama also added: "While we may not agree on every issue, Mayor Bloomberg and I agree on the most important issues of our time - that the key to a strong economy is investing in the skills and education of our people, that immigration reform is essential to an open and dynamic democracy, and that climate change is a threat to our children's future, and we owe it to them to do something about it."

[EonBlue]

Man, you guys really have to stop with this HAARP nonsense. It just isn't real and there is no possibility of it being real.

Just read the following to put things into perspective:

Can You Stop a Hurricane by Nuking It?

A fully developed hurricane releases 50 or more terawatts of heat energy at any given moment, only about 1 percent of which is converted into wind. The heat release, Landsea wrote, "is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes." The entire human race in 2011 used about a third of the energy present in an average hurricane.

There is just no possibility that an array of antennas has the power to create, modify or manipulate something as large and powerful as a hurricane. To think otherwise is to willfully ignore basic physics.

But besides all of that Bloomberg is an idiot and has no idea what he is talking about.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Man, you guys really have to stop with this HAARP nonsense. It just isn't real and there is no possibility of it being real.

Just read the following to put things into perspective:

Can You Stop a Hurricane by Nuking It?



There is just no possibility that an array of antennas has the power to create, modify or manipulate something as large and powerful as a hurricane. To think otherwise is to willfully ignore basic physics.

But besides all of that Bloomberg is an idiot and has no idea what he is talking about.

well done ;)

but everyone knows that this guy is a compulsive liar already. He lives for fear.

[xholly]

its good to see that you have definitive proof of something before posting sensationalist randomness, otherwise you may come across as a fool with no credibility to anything you say on this or any other topic.

[Si]

You heard it first on GFY? No I heard it on the "evil" mainstream news

Where is your proof climate change is false then? I'm skeptical, but the way I look at it is this: Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world that isn't poluted and full of garbage?

[wehateporn]

That's not a relevant comparison, a bomb is completely the wrong tool to stop a hurricane with.

You talk about 'basic physics', but if it really is so basic, then how did Nikola Tesla not realize?

Watch out for the fake science that they use to cover up their covert weapons.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Man, you guys really have to stop with this HAARP nonsense. It just isn't real and there is no possibility of it being real.

Just read the following to put things into perspective:

Can You Stop a Hurricane by Nuking It?



There is just no possibility that an array of antennas has the power to create, modify or manipulate something as large and powerful as a hurricane. To think otherwise is to willfully ignore basic physics.

But besides all of that Bloomberg is an idiot and has no idea what he is talking about.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

well done ;)

but everyone knows that this guy is a compulsive liar already. He lives for fear.

That's a new one, I though I was pretty honest, almost too honest for my own good. You'd be better of calling me a 'Conspiracy Theorist'

[SGS]

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by xholly

its good to see that you have definitive proof of something before posting sensationalist randomness, otherwise you may come across as a fool with no credibility to anything you say on this or any other topic.

Those who are smart enough only need a nudge in the right direction, that's what this thread is.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Si

You heard it first on GFY? No I heard it on the "evil" mainstream news

Where is your proof climate change is false then? I'm skeptical, but the way I look at it is this: Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world that isn't poluted and full of garbage?

I know your game, I don't fall for it. Nice try though. You've probably still got some nicks I don't know, but I sussed out this one a while back

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by SGS

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That's not a relevant comparison, a bomb is completely the wrong tool to stop a hurricane with.

You talk about 'basic physics', but if it really is so basic, then how did Nikola Tesla not realize?

Watch out for the fake science that they use to cover up their covert weapons.

I know a bomb is the wrong tool to stop a hurricane and the article I linked to says as much. But the point is that humans do not possess any tool with enough power to stop, create or modify a hurricane.

The basics physics are that we simply do not possess anything powerful enough to do any of the things that conspiracy nuts claim can be done. Tesla would be the first one to tell you so.

I'd say watch out for the fake science that conspiracy nuts use to peddle their outlandish claims. Conspiracy theorists really do come across like the religious nuts and their theories of intelligent design and that the world is only 6000 years old. They believe their theories because they read them in a book. Conspiracy nuts believe their theories because they read them on some random website or saw a Youtube video produced by some dork in his parent's basement.

Anyways, for the realists in the crowd, here is a good debunking of the outlandish claims of HAARP along with some facts about it's real capabilities:

HAARP Myths

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

nuts believe their theories because they read them on some random website

Just read the following to put things into perspective:

RANDOM WEBSITE

here is a good debunking of the outlandish claims of HAARP:

ANOTHER RANDOM WEBSITE

[96ukssob]

how do you know that HAARP wasn't invented to help LESSEN the strengths of storms and hurricanes?

Think about it... these "rays" could be used to dissipate the storm and clouds and could have turned a category 3 into a 1 that hit the east coast!

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by bossku69

how do you know that HAARP wasn't invented to help LESSEN the strengths of storms and hurricanes?

Think about it... these "rays" could be used to dissipate the storm and clouds and could have turned a category 3 into a 1 that hit the east coast!

Because those "rays" only act on the ionosphere and weather does not happen in the ionosphere. And again, even if they could aim them at the storm, they are nowhere near powerful enough to have any affect on a hurricane.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by bossku69

how do you know that HAARP wasn't invented to help LESSEN the strengths of storms and hurricanes?

Think about it... these "rays" could be used to dissipate the storm and clouds and could have turned a category 3 into a 1 that hit the east coast!

Everyone only does things for evil. EVIL!

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by SGS

Compulsory attire in my office.......

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Man, you guys really have to stop with this HAARP nonsense. It just isn't real and there is no possibility of it being real.

Just read the following to put things into perspective:

Can You Stop a Hurricane by Nuking It?



There is just no possibility that an array of antennas has the power to create, modify or manipulate something as large and powerful as a hurricane. To think otherwise is to willfully ignore basic physics.

But besides all of that Bloomberg is an idiot and has no idea what he is talking about.

Conspiracy nutters don't care about facts. Because facts instantly will kill 99% of the insane theories out there.

[pr0phet]

So Bloomberg endorsed Obama who will be voted for by 70 percent plus of his residents. My question is what took so long?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Good point there, people are putting their trust in random websites rather than thinking for themselves and looking at what's going on in the sky

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by pr0phet

So Bloomberg endorsed Obama who will be voted for by 70 percent plus of his residents. My question is what took so long?

It was all about timing and setting up the 'Climate' propaganda to help smooth through the 'Climate' taxes for the Rothschild World Bank

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Conspiracy nutters don't care about facts. Because facts instantly will kill 99% of the insane theories out there.

Talking about 'Facts', were did you pull your '99%' figure from?

[epitome]

I guess Agnes that did the same type of damage to the NE in the 70s was also a HAARP false flag. And Irene. And all of the other hurricanes that have nailed the NE.

[wehateporn]

If this was the case they would have told us, but when it's a Covert Weapon they keep quiet and deny

Originally Posted by bossku69

how do you know that HAARP wasn't invented to help LESSEN the strengths of storms and hurricanes?

Think about it... these "rays" could be used to dissipate the storm and clouds and could have turned a category 3 into a 1 that hit the east coast!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Good point there, people are putting their trust in random websites rather than thinking for themselves and looking at what's going on in the sky

I can look at the sky all day. Make random guesses. Then go find someone else who made the same random guesses. Then we can get together and create a theory that backs up our random guesses. That is not difficult to do at all.

The sky is blue, as a reflection off of the ocean. Since the ocean makes up two thirds of the world, this makes perfect sense! Now I can run along and find some other goofball that would rather sit around and create theories.

How about that? We now have our own goofball conspiracy theory instead of consulting real science to get an actual answer as to why the sky is blue.

Calling myself a free thinker does not make me any less of an uneducated goofball.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by epitome

I guess Agnes that did the same type of damage to the NE in the 70s was also a HAARP false flag. And Irene. And all of the other hurricanes that have nailed the NE.

It was only established in the early 90's, it's taken a lot of practice/experiments to get to this level.

Natural hurricanes do exist, and these days so do artificial ones

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Good point there, people are putting their trust in random websites rather than thinking for themselves and looking at what's going on in the sky

So looking at the sky and making shit up about what you see is thinking for yourself? I guess so if you like to live outside of reality. Our ancestors couldn't explain strange things in the sky either. So they invented gods to explain everything. All you've done is replace the gods with conspiracy theories. The difference now is that we have scientific explanations for the strange things we see in the sky but for some reason you still need to believe that there is more to it. Conspiracy theory is the same as religion. Being skeptical is thinking for yourself.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

It was only established in the early 90's, it's taken a lot of practice/experiments to get to this level.

Natural hurricanes do exist, and these days so do artificial ones

That's really weird since hurricane activity has been in a lull, another natural phenomenon.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Sly

I can look at the sky all day. Make random guesses. Then go find someone else who made the same random guesses. Then we can get together and create a theory that backs up our random guesses. That is not difficult to do at all.

The sky is blue, as a reflection off of the ocean. Since the ocean makes up two thirds of the world, this makes perfect sense! Now I can run along and find some other goofball that would rather sit around and create theories.

How about that? We now have our own goofball conspiracy theory instead of consulting real science to get an actual answer as to why the sky is blue.

Calling myself a free thinker does not make me any less of an uneducated goofball.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

well done ;)

but everyone knows that this guy is a compulsive liar already. He lives for fear.

Damn!

"The entire human race in 2011 used about a third of the energy present in an average hurricane."

[xholly]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Those who are smart enough only need a nudge in the right direction, that's what this thread is.

My mistake. I thought this thread was about pulling shit theories out of your ass without any thing to back it up what so ever, The intelligent ones will no doubt believe some baseless theory on 0 evidence because it sounds cool to them. Continue please and feel free to make up anything you feel like that sounds good

[topnotch, standup guy]

In a perfect world . . .

"truthers", "birthers" and anyone who habitually uses the phrases "false flag", "Illuminati" and/or "user uploaded" would be involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution until such time as he or she was lobotomized.


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[EonBlue]

I don't know. I think I'm starting to believe this HAARP stuff. This article from a very authoritative source may have convinced me:

HAARP Conspiracy Theory

[seeandsee]

Fuck with HAARP and sandy, you can't change nothing

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I don't know. I think I'm starting to believe this HAARP stuff. This article from a very authoritative source may have convinced me:

HAARP Conspiracy Theory

Plenty of good documentaries out there EonBlue, keep your mind open

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Plenty of good documentaries out there EonBlue, keep your mind open

I'm guessing you didn't read the article I linked to. It was very tongue in cheek.

And I do have a very open mind but I am also very skeptical. Having an open mind does not mean I have to let it fill up with garbage.

[Sly]

Why does having an open mind always require that you close your mind to science?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Sly

Why does having an open mind always require that you close your mind to science?

'Science' is used politically, once upon a time we were told why Jews should be killed based on 'Science'. You have to keep in mind that if there's a Covert Weapon based on 'Science' the 'Real Science' will have to be denied while 'Fake Science' will have to be churned out to the masses.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

'Science' is used politically, once upon a time we were told why Jews should be killed based on 'Science'. You have to keep in mind that if there's a Covert Weapon based on 'Science' the 'Real Science' will have to be denied while 'Fake Science' will have to be churned out to the masses.

So why are you closing your mind to fake science?

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by Sly

Why does having an open mind always require that you close your mind to science?

The only closed minds in this thread that I'm seeing; are the clowns that think science hasn't had the ability to control weather events for almost 6 decades.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

'Science' is used politically, once upon a time we were told why Jews should be killed based on 'Science'. You have to keep in mind that if there's a Covert Weapon based on 'Science' the 'Real Science' will have to be denied while 'Fake Science' will have to be churned out to the masses.

But you have no proof of fake science being used in the case of HAARP. The real science behind HAARP is pretty much out there in the open and so far there is not one credible piece of scientific evidence proving that HAARP can do and/or does what the conspiracy theories claim. The only fake science in this case is the conspiracy theories claiming that HAARP can do things that it really can't do.

Do you really think that out of all the researchers working with HAARP, from a whole bunch of different universities, that not a single one of them would speak out about HAARP being used as a WMD? Are they all that evil? Or are you now going to say that those people conveniently disappear without a trace?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Sly

So why are you closing your mind to fake science?

Fake Science is to cover stuff up, it's fake results, like Fluoride Science, it's important to keep track of what they're trying to 'Fake'.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by buzzard

The only closed minds in this thread that I'm seeing; are the clowns that think science hasn't had the ability to control weather events for almost 6 decades.

Science has the ability to influence weather on very small scales. It does not have the ability to control it - especially not on the scale of hurricanes.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Fake Science is to cover stuff up, it's fake results, like Fluoride Science, it's important to keep track of what they're trying to 'Fake'.

How do you know that the science I believe in, is fake, but the science that you believe in, is real?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Do you really think that out of all the researchers working with HAARP, from a whole bunch of different universities, that not a single one of them would speak out about HAARP being used as a WMD? Are they all that evil? Or are you now going to say that those people conveniently disappear without a trace?

I'm not going to spend a lot of time here giving a lesson, but watch the documentaries, then watch the sky and you'll see it going on in front of your own eyes. I've been observing what's going on for many years now, once you do this you'll be left in no doubt.

Remember once upon a time they told you Fluoride was good for your teeth, whereas now they're telling us it bad for our brains and doesn't appear to be doing much good for our teeth. It's very easily to pay guys to come out with fake science, the real information is held on a 'need to know' basis.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by buzzard

The only closed minds in this thread that I'm seeing; are the clowns that think science hasn't had the ability to control weather events for almost 6 decades.

It is indeed very easy to control the weather, relative to the other stuff we can do

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Science has the ability to influence weather on very small scales. It does not have the ability to control it - especially not on the scale of hurricanes.

Sure. Keep believing that. Shit Brain.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Do you really think that out of all the researchers working with HAARP, from a whole bunch of different universities, that not a single one of them would speak out about HAARP being used as a WMD? Are they all that evil? Or are you now going to say that those people conveniently disappear without a trace?

Ah yes. When you have nothing to back up your argument, resort to the old 'the Government can't keep a secret' cliche. Sure, buddy. We're kept in the loop about everything the Government/military does, and why. Now go back to sleep, and don't forget your teddy bear.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm not going to spend a lot of time here giving a lesson, but watch the documentaries, then watch the sky and you'll see it going on in front of your own eyes. I've been observing what's going on for many years now, once you do this you'll be left in no doubt.

Remember once upon a time they told you Fluoride was good for your teeth, whereas now they're telling us it bad for our brains and doesn't appear to be doing much good for our teeth. It's very easily to pay guys to come out with fake science, the real information is held on a 'need to know' basis.

Some eyes can see what they want to see when they already have a preconceived notion of what it is they are looking for.

I watch lots of documentaries about fringe theories like UFO's, bigfoot, paranormal activity, etc. But it still doesn't mean I believe any of it is real. I find the thought of much of it very interesting and cool but I have yet to see any convincing evidence for any of it. Thankfully I am still able to tell the difference between science fiction/fantasy and real science.

And the case of fluoride isn't a great comparison to something like HAARP. Science isn't infallible and it is allowed to change to correct findings of the past. They used to think fluoride was good for teeth so they added it to water. Now new evidence may be uncovering harmful effects of fluoride. If it is found to be harmful then it should be removed from the water supply. Either way water fluoridation is not some nefarious mind control or population control scheme.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

It is indeed very easy to control the weather, relative to the other stuff we can do

Prove it. If it is very easy to do it should be very easy for you to prove.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by buzzard

Sure. Keep believing that. Shit Brain.

Ummmm, ookay. I will. Because you have given me no reason not to.