wehateporn

That was a technique the CIA recommended to their media assets in a 1967 memo, they've used it ever since, especially so with 9/11

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wehateporn

The 'Fluoride Science' was manipulated deliberately, look into who funded it and what their agenda was. No accident

In the US it's the Rockefeller's who promote the use of Fluoride, they were the family who funded Hitler. The Nazis used Fluoride to make people more docile and complacent.

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wehateporn

One thing I've witnessed with my own eyes is chemtrails being sprayed up and down the edges of storms, this is to put a metallic substance into them, making them easy to control via HAARP

This video shows it happening with Sandy (3 minutes 30 seconds)

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buzzard

If you have a genuine interest; research it for yourself. That way, it won't be my idea and you can take all the credit.
It's not up to me to educate you

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EonBlue

By what mechanism is HAARP able to control a storm via said "metallic substance"? This is the theory yet you cannot not even name the metallic substance? How much of the metallic substance has to be sprayed to control something the size of Sandy? If all of this is so rudimentary that a bunch of internet conspiracy theorists can figure it out why isn't Iran, North Korea, China or Russia using it to screw with the US? Why would the US turn it's own super weapon on itself?

Dude, listen, you are a nice guy - unlike some of the other members of your cult around here. At least you can make your arguments without acting like a 12 year old. But when you believe in things that cannot be proven no one will ever be able to disprove them to you. That is why religion still persists the way it does today. It's a waste of time for me to try to change your mind because anything I say can just be countered with another non-falsifiable claim.



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wehateporn

I haven't got a long time to spend on this, I'd recommend anyone who wants to learn more to watch some documentaries and to start observing what's going on in the sky.

To answer your questions

- Aluminum is sprayed

- A lot is needed for a hurricane the size of Sandy, see the video I posted below showing the aluminum chemtrails being sprayed all around Sandy.

- The US isn't using it on themselves, it's Rothschild (Globalist Bankers) using it as a pretext for Climate Taxes, and also to help their puppet Obama get in.

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Si

I'm playing games and have multiple nicks?

Dirty F

Ah, there we go. The typical truther tactic.
Thruthers make crazy claims 24/7. They spread their nonsense all day long as much as possible. People need to wake up. But wheb those people ask for evidence they will tell you to fuck off and find the evidence yourself.

You will find this same behaviour from truthers on every single forum on the internet.

Dirty F

Ofcourse next on the list is "why don't you prove my claim is wrong". Truthers love that one!

wehateporn

We haven't got time to babysit you Dirty F, if you want to know you'll take the ball and run with it, you've got the Internet at your fingertips.

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Si

Post some fucking proof!

wehateporn

I know you're just after a discussion to keep the forum active, anyone who's really interested will spend time watching documentaries and searching around on Google.

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onwebcam

You should probably tell that to all of these people who run the DHS Hurricane Aerosol and Microphysics Program (HAMP)

Session 2C
Hurricane Aerosol and Microphysics Program (HAMP)
Chair: William R. Cotton, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO
10:15 AM 2C.1 The Hurricane Aerosol and Microphysics Program (HAMP): A HAMP Contribution wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Joe Golden, Golden Research & Consulting, Boulder, CO; and W. L. Woodley
10:30 AM 2C.2 Simulation of a landfalling hurricane using spectral bin microphysical model: effects of aerosols on hurricane intensity (the HAMP contribution) extended abstract wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Alexander P. Khain, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Israel; and B. Lynn and J. Dudhia
10:45 AM 2C.3 Effects of aerosols on the Tropical Cyclone genesis as seen from simulations using spectral bin microphysics model (the HAMP contribution) extended abstract wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Barry Lynn, Weather It Is, LTD, Efrat, Israel; and A. P. Khain
11:00 AM 2C.4 Spray microphysics and effects on surface fluxes as seen from simulations using a Lagrangian model with spectral bin microphysics extended abstract wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Jacob Shpund, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Israel
11:15 AM 2C.5 Can aerosols explain hurricane prediction errors?
Michal Clavner, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Israel; and D. Rosenfeld
11:30 AM 2C.6 Mechanisms of lightning formation in deep maritime clouds and hurricanes (The HAMP contribution) extended abstract wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Nir Benmoshe, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Israel; and A. Khain, A. Pokrovsky, and V. Phillips
11:45 AM 2C.7 Feasibility study of the modification of the intensity of tropical cyclones by seeding CCN with an aircraft : A HAMP Project wrf recordingRecorded presentation
Gustavo G. Carrio, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO; and W. R. Cotton

https://ams.confex.com/ams/29Hurrica...sion_24276.htm

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Si

Your thoughts please Porn Hater?

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/

Doesn't like Icke or Jones too much, but still posting pretty much the same theories from I've seen, just come accross said link so haven't read/watched much on there at all yet.

arock10

after reading this thread now I think romney has a better chance of winning. more idiots out there then I thought

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Matt 26z

HAARP does not create hurricanes. It creates conditions that are right for hurricanes to form. And it does this again and again until one does form.

DTK

negro please. science is the polar opposite of religion.

while it might take a generation for new scientific ideas to gain traction, religious "ideas" (better named as Irrational Supertitions) last centuries.

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DTK

I hate responding to fake nicks and i'm neither here nor there on this particular issue but.....

Yeah, because things always happen according to the 'Official Story'

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DTK

you know, you occasionally have good points. but then you ruin your credibility with idiotic statements like this

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DTK

gosh, i'm sorry. i should never question your perfect understanding of everything.

i now genuflect in your general direction and vow never to question your hyper-superior intellect ever again

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epitome

It was sunny and 82 today. The ocean was the perfect temp. Should I thank HAARP?

Its now down to 65. Should I blame HAARP?

onwebcam

Democrats=scam...... check
Repulicans=scam..... check
Religion=scam.... check
Scientology (scienced based religion)=scam... check
Scientist making up shit to get grants=scam.. check
Science=scam. unchecked.......

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And these people

Project Stormfury attempted to weaken hurricanes in the 1960s and 70s
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weath...tormfury_x.htm




"In less than two weeks, NASA scientists will begin their quest for the holy grail of hurricane research.

The exact conditions required to kickstart a tropical depression into a hurricane largely remain a mystery. Though scientists know many of the ingredients needed, it is unclear what processes ultimately drive depressions to form into the intense, spinning storms that lash the U.S. coasts each summer.

"Hurricane formation and intensification is really the ‘holy grail' of this field," said Ed Zipser, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Utah and one of three program scientists helping to lead the Genesis and Rapid Intensification Processes (GRIP) experiment this summer. "

"“We want to see storms that become hurricanes, and we want to see some that don’t become hurricanes, so we can compare the data. The same is true for hurricane intensification.” ~ GRIP Project Manager Marilyn Vasques"

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hu...-quest_prt.htm


Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...urricanes.html

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http://www.infowars.com/hurricane-ae...-modification/

Quote:

?While OAR recognizes that weather modification, in general, is occurring through the funding of private enterprises, NOAA does not support research that entails efforts to modify hurricanes,? Spinrad wrote. He then went on to list all the reasons Project Stormfury was discontinued, including the inability to separate the difference in hurricane behavior when human intervention is present versus nature?s inherent unpredictability overall. Spinrad also noted that any collaboration with DHS must occur within NOAA?s mission (which Spinrad and NOAA obviously felt HAMP did not do).

You took those quotes out of context. They are talking about research into why and how hurricanes form and rapidly intensify. They are not talking about forming and intensifying hurricanes on their own. The holy grail they refer to is being able to predict hurricane formation and intensity.

Sly

Water covers 70% of the earth, which causes the sky to reflect blue all around the world.

This is why the sky is blue.

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onwebcam

"Note that even Spinrad admits the existence of weather modification programs as if its general, accepted knowledge. Although DHS was turned down, the agency moved ahead with their research without NOAA’s participation."

Funny how you quoted a "conspiracy theorists" site.

Where does NASA come in?

“We recommend that hurricane reconnaissance and research airplanes are equipped with aerosol and cloud physics instruments and fly patterns that will allow such measurements.” Drone use in “areas where safety concerns preclude aircraft measurements” was also called for."

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/...S-D-11-00147.1

Ask yourself.. What is the Department of Homeland Security doing studying hurricanes? Aren't they suppose to be protecting us from Al Qaeda via body scanners?

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EonBlue

They moved ahead with "research". Doesn't say anywhere that that research resulted in the capability to create and control hurricanes.

Quoted a conspiracy theorist's site on purpose.

onwebcam

"research" has been going on for decades.

Nah they can't control them.

Once again

Scientists a step closer to steering hurricanes
21 Oct 2007

"Moshe Alamaro, of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), told The Sunday Telegraph of his plans to "paint" the tops of hurricanes black by scattering carbon particles – either soot or black particles from the manufacture of tyres – from aircraft flying above the storms. The particles would absorb heat from the sun, leading to changes in the airflows within the storm. Satellites could also heat the cloud tops by beaming microwaves from space.

"If they're done in the right place at the right time they can affect the strength of the hurricane," Mr Alamaro said."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...urricanes.html

It's pretty obvious they are admittedly trying to "detensify" now if you consider them using weather modification in war as far back as Vietnam wouldn't you think someone would also try and intensify as well for whatever nefarious pupose?

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EonBlue

That's all based on theory and computer models - a whole bunch of could, would and should. They have never done it in the real world.

I think these retards will soon find out that nature is far more chaotic and variable than their little video games. And they will be rudely introduced to the law of unintended consequences.

Besides, this thread started out with the claim that Sandy was created by HAARP. The leap from seeding a storm in order to weaken it to HAARP creating and then steering a storm into the most populous area of the country is a pretty huge one.

onwebcam

How do you know it;s never been done in the real World? Because you think they announce everything they are doing beforehand? My point is they have been cloud seeding and manipulating weather for many decades and are JUST NOW admitting it.

You are probably one who also believes in global warming (now changed to climate change) . Well I pose the same question in reverse all other global warming (climate change) alarmists have used to explain why it happened. If global warming/climate change is the cause then why did we have hurricanes before then?

A global warmists theory is we are causing it via driving cars around and I completely disagree. My theory is those that push the global warming agenda are manipulating weather patterns to sell the idea that common man is creating it to further their agenda. Why do I believe this? Because they have admitted they planed to so on many occasions.

Now I guess we have a conundrum. Who do I trust. Do I trust the government to be truthful with me about this and other situations? Not for one minute. So I generally go with the old saying "follow the money." Who benefits? Those that have admitted they would like to manipulate hurricanes? Politicians and crony government contractors? Look at the governors and mayors of those areas getting on TV praising Obama for his global warming work while in office (not mentioning the fact Obama was a founder of the exchange that would handle the credits) So these guys would like me to believe it was "global warming" and that is just as preposterous to me as my theory is to you.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Cloud seeding is a well known practice and is not really something that they have been trying to cover up. Yes they are trying to manipulate the weather but they do it to try to decrease damage caused by weather, not increase it. They are not creating storms and they are not steering storms.

As far as cloud seeding and hurricanes goes:

No I don't believe all the man-made global warming/climate change hype and all of the alarmism surrounding it. It's probably the biggest scam of all time. And the only reason most politicians appear to buy into it is because of their need to look like they are doing good. It is all just a big PR campaign for them but in the process they are severely damaging the economies of the world.

And as for all of the talk about there being more hurricanes these days with greater intensity than ever before it just isn't true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...l_st atistics

I do think the global warming alarmists are trying to make people believe it's true to drive their agenda. But I don't beleive that they are purposely creating and/or controlling hurricanes to do it. They can accomplish all they need to just by getting people to fall for the big lie.

The last major hurricane (Cat3+) to make landfall in the US was in 2005 (hurricane Wilma). If Dr. Evil and his accomplices could create, intensify and steer hurricanes don't you think they would have whipped up a few really big ones in that time do help further their agenda?

onwebcam

No I think they would whip one up when they need arises. Such as just before the close election of your climate scheme exchange founder to make him look more Presidential. Much like when they intentionally collapsed the Stock Market just before his last election. And those Mayors and Governors are absolutely tickled with the thought of handing out contracts to their pals and shitloads of funds flowing in during a struggling economy. Like I said before it may just turn those $5,000 houses you can buy in PA all day long into $50-100k houses.

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buzzard

As opposed to the "truth" spread by fantasy land mystics...
Hold on to your dreams, they could get shattered by coming true. If you fail to buy into the mystic parasite hoax.

Speaking of waking up...

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