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				If You Own/Run a Paysite That Converts At 1:500 Or Better: Post Your Link
			 
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			If your paysite converts at 1:500 OR BETTER then post your site, a link, a screenshot, something. LET'S SEE HOW MANY PAYSITES OUT THERE ARE REALLY, ACTUALLY, TRUTHFULLY DOING BUSINESS LIKE IT'S 2004. This should help Affiliates, too, so they can see which programs they should sign up with and who they should ignore. I don't care the niche, I don't care the content, I don't care the company, I just care about these factors: Traffic: over 1000 hits daily MINIMUM Billers: Please list if it's a CCBill, Epoch, Verotel, etc site Bring it Motherfuckers! ![]() 
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		 Will you test it out and post results? If so then its good thread and many many of those who usually post fake stats will not post here. Otherwise - thread will be full of fake stats. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	From my experience - If I got any program that converted at 1:1000 I would be king, however I have not find any like that in a long time. 1:500 is impossible and I would not believe anybody who says otherwise (except of course special traffic sources and other "special" circumstances).  | 
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		 If I didn't convert under 1:500 I'd find something else to do. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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	1. Half the people on this board will call bullshit. 2. The other half will tell their horror stories of how so and so fucked them or they didn't convert at all. ALL of this is subject to how you run your site as an affiliate and the business you're doing etc etc etc. None of the larger companies will let you look at their books and you have no way or corroborating any of the numbers posted. Evil Angel / FameDigital / Nuru Massage / Sweet Heart Video / All Girl Massage / and many other FameDollars sites have a better than 1:500 ratio and ALL of them do > 1000 hits per day. If you want more info on which are the best converting and which we think would be the best converting ones for you, contact derrick at famedollars dot com and he'll be happy to give you more info. It's a two way street though and as the saying goes, "Results may vary." Send shit traffic, get shit conversions. Have a quality site and traffic, get good results. Hit us up, see what we can do for you. Or just complain a bunch about us and other programs, either way, happy Halloween!  | 
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			Homegrown Video and our niche sites, hairy bush, big cock, big tits, milf, cream pie based on overall traffic, including type ins, google, etc. 1:529 for October, average of all traffic combined on all sites, affiliate and internal traffic. One year ago we were at 1:2000 for the same period, less sites, but pretty similar overall traffic strategy. Our new sites are tested on tube traffic primarily, so those ratios tend to skew the overall average since we haven't brought in the SEO, affiliates, review sites, trades, etc. that would bring the average way down and more similar to an established site like HGV. 
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		 Here are our sites that convert 1:300 to 1:500 from all traffic. This is from ALL traffic not just certain affiliates/traffic sources... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			PregnantKristi.com PissWhoreTraining.com DiaperSluts.com SmokingMina.com The rest of our sites are around the 1:800 to 1:1300 range depending on the site and month. Some exceptions of course with really old sites but there aren't many like that. 
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		 I am better then 1:500 for the year but I do not get 1000 hits a day. I get a small amount of good traffic. I had 3 people take me up on that deal to get 10 joins from 23,000 hits and all three of them got 10 or more. It was from a thread where someone was 0:23,000  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I know two of them set it to the tour and one guy had many links. Thing is nobody updated anything from what I can see. The three of them total might send 10 hits a day now. I figured they would be happy with 14:23,000. I think the best was around 19:32000 but our stats did not match up exactly. They were within 5% on the total hits sent so close enough. That is about 1:1500 which is about what all three of them ended up with. I was just happy they were all honest and sent their normal traffic and not some crap they could have bought for 8 bucks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 kennyspennies has some great sites that convert with those numbers easy. Been there do that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 How much traffic a day are you getting Dave?  I'd be so filthy rich if I were still doing 1:500 in 2012 that I'd buy Manwin. lol 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I was curious about that myself.  He does have some of the best gloryhole content I've ever seen though and seems to do a good job policing it on the piracy sites... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Our top converting sites at EuroRevenue last 30 day's according to Nats admin. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 IMHO we shouldn't be talking about ratios here, we need to also take into account rebill rates and the actual price per sale.  If instead we look at $/Unique Click, and include rebills in the calculation, that is is a far more useful number.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
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			Oct: 1/341 Sept: 1/298 Aug: 1:325 Jul: 1:442 Jun: 1:402 May: 1:349 Apr: 1:295 March: 1:225 Feb: 1:695 Jan: 1:413 Only February sucked! These are affiliate ratios and if i`m right even without the rebills! 
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 But it doesn't keep us from being affected by everybody else's content being out there for free. Takes away a lot of money that used to come in off of "impulse buying". Once they've already jerked off to free porn, they no longer have that "need" to reach into their wallet and buy a paysite membership.  | 
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 Did people then somehow stop jerking off and decide to get a membership so they could go in and splooge as a full member? Just asking... 
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 I was making 7 figures a year as an affiliate with my TGP's. I did something right. And I was but one of many big affiliates. How many big affiliate like that are left today (pushing paysites...not dating and cams)? Not a handful, if that many.  | 
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 Interesting that you have the two different domains to test with, be interesting to see how much you can change the type in tour. A little OT however still about paysites. What power words do people find work the best on tours for selling? ie discover / guarantee etc - what works best on tours? What single words and combos? 
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