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DatingFactory · 10-30-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

He was great yeah but he had 6 or 7 years at the top of the game. Messi is in his 9th season with Barcelona. I rate Messi already better than Ronaldhino, far better infact!

Agreed. When he played for AC Milan he was already done.

VenusBlogger · 10-30-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

The reason why the sport stops and starts so much is because it is a "by play" sport. Understand this concept and you might understand the game.

DUDE, I tried to watch a NFL game, but tis fuckign boring..

They play 20 seconds, then stop 5 minutes to show off their MOTOROLA HEADSETs and GATORADE brands... then play 10 seconds and stop 5 minutes again!!! WTF??..

Who wants to watch a 3-4 hours game to only watch 60 mins of actual game? That's crazy...

Slappin Fish · 10-30-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DatingFactory

Agreed. When he played for AC Milan he was already done.

I wouldn't call 36 games with 12 goals and 16 assists as a winger in 2010 winning Seria A done but at the risk of repeating myself, my opinion is that he is technically above anyone, never suggested he is a better all round player than messi. He'd would have had to stop partying for that

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J. Falcon · 10-30-2012, 01:21 PM

What really kills the flow of an American Football game IMO is when they go to a fucking commercial right after a kickoff right after a commercial. They should really stop that shit it is goddamn annoying as hell!

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

True, and football is kind of like chess in a way.

Yeah. Apart from the fact that chess players are clever and football players are thick as pigshit.

DatingFactory · 10-30-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

I wouldn't call 36 games with 12 goals and 16 assists as a winger in 2010 winning Seria A done but at the risk of repeating myself, my opinion is that he is technically above anyone, never suggested he is a better all round player than messi. He'd would have had to stop partying for that

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you said it "He'd would have had to stop partying for that".

I am an AC Milan fan and i think that 36 games in two years tells you a lot.

Potentially he could have been the most spectacular player in history of the sport.

J. Falcon · 10-30-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Yeah. Apart from the fact that chess players are clever and football players are thick as pigshit.

Yeah and soccer players are all geniuses. Most of them can hardly speak coherently.

You obviously don't know, but you have to be pretty smart to learn an NFL playbook, offensive or defensive.

PR_Glen · 10-30-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Yeah. Apart from the fact that chess players are clever and football players are thick as pigshit.

yes yes, that's a brilliant thing to bring up because we all know soccer players were hand picked by the time they were 6 years old and worked so hard on their educations to never actually get one unlike in football where most of them get their degrees...

maybe if you see things from both sides once in a while you woudln't sound like you were talking out of your ass so often..

Ross · 10-30-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

It's all a matter of opinion. More disciplined all round player no doubt like I said in my original post I rate Ronaldinho the best ever only for pure skill, for the rest (in recent years) Zidane by a hair, until Messi wins something important that is

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I respect your opinion, he was a phenomenal player, I witnessed it first hand against Celtic. The things he did with the ball during warm up were crazy. It's a shame that he let himself go, especially at a team like Milan.

Zidane was a genius, his composure and range of goal scoring ability was remarkable. I remember the World Cup Final in 1998, he tore Brazil to pieces.

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

maybe if you see things from both sides once in a while you woudln't sound like you were talking out of your ass so often..

Talking out of my ass?

So you disagree with my observation that chess players are clever and footballers are stupid?

Lolsome.

Slappin Fish · 10-30-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Yeah and soccer players are all geniuses. Most of them can hardly speak coherently.

You obviously don't know, but you have to be pretty smart to learn an NFL playbook, offensive or defensive.

Some can't even sign their own name I witnessed it first hand

Edit : "soccer" player not NFL, I should have cut the quote.

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You obviously don't know, but you have to be pretty smart to learn an NFL playbook, offensive or defensive.

Yeah, which is why so many go on to glittering academic careers.

Bryan G · 10-30-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Yeah. Apart from the fact that chess players are clever and football players are thick as pigshit.

Thick as arguing and trolling a senior citizen on a message board?

J. Falcon · 10-30-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Talking out of my ass?

So you disagree with my observation that chess players are clever and footballers are stupid?

Lolsome.

American Football players go to college, all of them without exception. Soccer players usually don't even finish high school.

J. Falcon · 10-30-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Yeah, which is why so many go on to glittering academic careers.

What the hell are you talking about?

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

American Football players go to college, all of them without exception.

Where did I say they didn't?

Are you a football player?

I'm struggling to keep up with what part of my post you took issue with?

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

What the hell are you talking about?

I am saying that never, in the history of mankind, has a football or soccer player gone on to a glittering academic career.

Sorry you're struggling with all this.

I can draw you a picture if that would help?

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Thick as arguing and trolling a senior citizen on a message board?

No, but thick as a Canadian that never posts here apart from to castigate (look it up) me for mocking Markham.

Get over yourself, kid.

helterskelter808 · 10-30-2012, 02:14 PM

I assumed, being British, you were talking about soccer players anyway( being thick). I'm not sure why people are trying to defend the intelligence of people they don't know and who don't even know they exist.

Anyone who went to school, which admittedly probably rules out quite a few people here, knows the jocks/sporty kids were dumb fucks.

DamianJ · 10-30-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I assumed, being British, you were talking about soccer players anyway( being thick). I'm not sure why people are trying to defend the intelligence of people they don't know and who don't even know they exist.

Because they used to play football, or are fans of football and got butthurt I called them stupid. Obv.

And yes, I was talking about British football players being thick. But, I am 100% sure no American Football players are renowned for their glittering intellect. Which is why they get paid for running around in padding and kicking a ball, sometimes.

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Anyone who went to school, which admittedly probably rules out quite a few people here, knows the jocks/sporty kids were dumb fucks.

Course they were.

HandballJim · 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

fucking tv ads are killing NFL games for me, even NBA ad brakes are fucking annoying

commercials everywhere, when cable started it was commercial free then they got greedy too

HandballJim · 10-30-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

I'm watching an NFL game and a soccer game at the same time right now. Lions v Seahawks, Chelsea v Man Utd.

Living in North America I'm getting more and more into NFL every game I watch, it's a great sport. However, it will never replace Soccer for me. The Soccer game is end to end, attacking, flowing skillful play. The Lions game has been on 12 mins and no one has moved 10 yards yet. I've saw more commercials than game time at this point. Soccer is uninterupted for the entire 45 mins of each half.

Do the hardcore NFL fans really give soccer a chance?

I was brought up watching NFL in the states with my dad, the same like many out of the states were brought up and playing soccer. It is hard to switch interests, I do watch world cup and Olympic soccer matches. I will be getting my daughter playing soccer and tennis in a couple years so I guess I will become more of a fan.

the commercials are only good time to run and get snacks in the kitchen.

Si · 10-30-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

A few things you and others fail to understand:

American Football is very different from Rugby. If you play American Football, at a pro or college level without pads, you would get your head cracked. You would probably die.

Pads are for protection, but also for hitting. To say it's for cowards only shows you know shit about it.

The reason why the sport stops and starts so much is because it is a "by play" sport. Understand this concept and you might understand the game.

300lb yes pound, I won't confuse you with stone. Guys are in "high school" hitting tiny dudes playing rugby from the age of 12 all over the rugby playing world probably the US included, you get a mouth guard and shin pads, end of.

II've seen smashed collar bones, broken noses (like mine), concussions, broken ankles, etc.

Rugby is the most man to man contact sport on the planet other than the martial arts.

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Anyone, including a rugby player with full pads, going against a pro linebacker will land on his ass.

Oh wow, land on his ass? hand-egg players land on their ass but it is padded isn't it?

Anyway, why are we even debating this shit? It's all well and good being "hard" until you get fucked by injury or brain damage, then where does it get you?

Lets talk motorsport for another example of why this arguement is pointless, my preference personally is in this order (see how many times I disagree with MYSELF):

1. F1 when the race is interesting.
2. Indy Car when the race is interesting
3. BTCC when the race is interesting.
4. F1 when it is boring.
5. Nascar When the race has crashes.
6. Indy Car when it boring
7. BTCC when it is boring
8. Nascar when it is normal.

It may seem i'm being a cunt torwards Nascar there, but I think it is a great sport. It is just another one of them things!

Si · 10-30-2012, 07:43 PM

DamianJ I see what you mean, could probably put a bit more democratic than you did though

You still in Brighton? Is the lamp-post blower still down there? Just wondering

Ross · 10-31-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

I am saying that never, in the history of mankind, has a football or soccer player gone on to a glittering academic career.

Sorry you're struggling with all this.

I can draw you a picture if that would help?

You have a point, not many of them turn out to be highly educated, especially these days. That is mostly because at 16 years old, kids are already making anywhere from 500-2000 pounds per week, depending on how good they are.

Take the Manchester United kid who made his first appearance recently, 19 years old, I forget his name, he is driving a $150,000 Range Rover. He just got into a bad crash, wrote the car off, drunk driving. He has played 2 games and can afford a car like that, incredible.

You wonder why these kids aren't smart, they know at a young age they have a relatively good chance of making it big, they give up on school and let their talents take them to a life of riches. Fair? no. Do they care? fuck no! Most of them go into coaching, tv work, newspaper work after their career and end up making real good money.

Bryan G · 10-31-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

No, but thick as a Canadian that never posts here apart from to castigate (look it up) me for mocking Markham.

Get over yourself, kid.

I only post in your threads do I? And I'm the one that needs to get over myself. Now that is classic! Anyhow have fun.

Scott McD · 10-31-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

the commercials are only good time to run and get snacks in the kitchen.

With that amount of commercials then it's no wonder America has so many fatties...

scott777 · 10-31-2012, 05:16 PM

Love soccer/football, but to be honest it would be far better if the goalposts were a few feet wider.
Just enough to have an average of 4 or 5 goals a game, instead of 1 or 2.

You would get more open games, where the better team is more likely to win, and less of the boring defensive play...10 players in the box defending a 1 goal lead.. or trying to hold out for a draw. Screw that.

helterskelter808 · 10-31-2012, 05:50 PM

I would have thought a bigger goal would encourage more defensive play, since losing the ball going forward would virtually guarantee conceding a goal if it was a few feet wider.

They're already massive, IMHO -- if anything, too big -- and more goals does not necessarily mean a more interesting game.

Ross · 11-01-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I would have thought a bigger goal would encourage more defensive play, since losing the ball going forward would virtually guarantee conceding a goal if it was a few feet wider.

They're already massive, IMHO -- if anything, too big -- and more goals does not necessarily mean a more interesting game.

Exactly the point I was going to make. Why not just say goalkeepers can't be taller than 5 feet? It's equally as stupid as saying make the goals wider.

stephane76 · 11-01-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

American Football players go to college, all of them without exception. Soccer players usually don't even finish high school.

They go to College to play US football, not to go to Class

J. Falcon · 11-01-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stephane76

They go to College to play US football, not to go to Class

I'm pretty sure they have to go to class.

stephane76 · 11-02-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I'm pretty sure they have to go to class.

They do a bit of classes but not much, I guess that depends how good of a player you are...

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I hate to say it, but anyone that is involved in college athletics, especially football or basketball, is at college to play sports. Most coaches steer their students to easier programs of study so that they can focus more on sports. As for getting school work done, coaches set up tutors and some players find their own way around things. Coaches have even been known to intervene on the students behalf when it involves an overly difficult professor.

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	I assumed, being British, you were talking about soccer players anyway( being thick). I'm not sure why people are trying to defend the intelligence of people they don't know and who don't even know they exist. Anyone who went to school, which admittedly probably rules out quite a few people here, knows the jocks/sporty kids were dumb fucks.

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Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	DamianJ I see what you mean, could probably put a bit more democratic than you did though You still in Brighton? Is the lamp-post blower still down there? Just wondering

10-31-2012, 05:16 PM	#128
scott777 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK Posts: 7	Love soccer/football, but to be honest it would be far better if the goalposts were a few feet wider. Just enough to have an average of 4 or 5 goals a game, instead of 1 or 2. You would get more open games, where the better team is more likely to win, and less of the boring defensive play...10 players in the box defending a 1 goal lead.. or trying to hold out for a draw. Screw that.

10-31-2012, 05:50 PM	#129
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	I would have thought a bigger goal would encourage more defensive play, since losing the ball going forward would virtually guarantee conceding a goal if it was a few feet wider. They're already massive, IMHO -- if anything, too big -- and more goals does not necessarily mean a more interesting game.