Such a dumb argument. I grew up watching both at various times. It's purely a question of personal taste, and also if you develope an affinity for a particular team in a particular sport, then you tend to enjoy that sport much more. If you don't care who wins, it's just not fun to watch.




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He was outstanding but Messi is well on his way to eclipsing everything Maradonna ever done. Messi is 24 years old, he still has 10-12 years left, he has already won so much. This kid is re-writing the record books. He is just an absolute pleasure to watch.

Soccer is painfully boring, just a bunch of guys kicking a ball back and fourth and nothing ever happens other then they randomly fall down pretending to be injured. The only reason it exists in the us is for paranoid mothers who won't let their delicate little boys play the sports they could get injured in. They should pipe that shit into prison tv's 24/7 and cut the repeat offenders in half. I find it comparable to dropping a chunk of steel into salt water and watching it rust. If there were 2 channels on tv, one had soccer, the other was the home shopping network my ass would be parked there watching women talk about how wonderful the bead collection they are trying to sell me is.

I think you are high. I've never in my life had anyone try to talk to me about a soccer game, I've never even in my life overheard other people discussing anything about soccer. I've never even seen it playing in a bar. It's about as popular as competitive knitting. If europe wants to have a sport the US would eat up, bring back fucking jousting, but the soccer twinks running around a field aimlessly chasing a ball.. worthless.

Can't agree with that. Xavi and Iniesta have a lot to do with Messi's play at Barca. With Argentina he's won nothing. not even a Copa America. in a great team that includes Sergio Aguero, Gonzalo Higuaín, Carlos Tevez, Di Maria... running with the ball at his feet he is the best but even in recent years when it comes to influencing a game I would put Zidane ahead and when it comes to pure creativity Ronaldinho.

I love to watch Messi but he has to do it at a world cup like Maradona did for him to overtake Maradona in my opinion. Maradona single handedly (no pun intended) took Argentina to victory in Mexico 86. He was out of this world with his level of play.

Messi could certainly do it. He does now finally seem to be bringing his club form to the Argentinian side. Maybe 2014 will be his world cup to do it.

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For the rest of the World outside of America it's the number 1 sport. Not bad considering "nothing happens"... :2 cents:

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One year later he broke the other one.

a lot less knocks in soccer but a lot of broken bones, knees, ankles.

I can name 4 players from Arsenal alone that broke their leg in the past couple years.

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the only sport for me that is even somewhat watchable is hockey but i don't like watching any sports really or all the bs of cheerleading that goes along with it. its not your team. you did nothing that assisted a team in winning. i don't get that mentality.

That's what you get for watching the Lions.

Xavi and Iniesta are incredible, you are correct and that is the reason Spain are the incredible team they are, but you can't attribute that to how great Messi is. Ok maybe he isn't the best ever yet but he is 24 years old. He has 3, potentially 4 World Cups left in him, this kid will go down as the best player to ever play the game.

Ronaldhino was a great player but how long did he play at the very very top for? He went the way of many Brazilian players, made their money and lost their hunger to be the best.

Hardcore NFL fans get only an average of 11 minutes played in a game...now tell me if this is a sport.

Actual Play Time of Super Bowl XLIV

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Total of 12 mins 38 secs.

Real Football:

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A few things you and others fail to understand:

American Football is very different from Rugby. If you play American Football, at a pro or college level without pads, you would get your head cracked. You would probably die.

Pads are for protection, but also for hitting. To say it's for cowards only shows you know shit about it.

The reason why the sport stops and starts so much is because it is a "by play" sport. Understand this concept and you might understand the game.

5 years in Barca more with AC Milan won the WC, Copa America, Champions League, Liga, Seria..don't know why he is underrated in the UK.

Skills wise he is untouchable, even Barca fans agree:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f_9Tf...eature=related

If he does he probably will go down as the best, but next World Cup he'll already be 27 though, hasn't happened yet :upsidedow

John...even Chess is a "by play" game. ;-)

Please there are a ridiculous amount of pauses in soccer matches, too. Not to mention bullshit calls by corrupt referees. It's a sport that does not advance technologically (maybe that's why makes it so popular), where corruption is rampant, players throw themselves are the ground constantly to try to deceive the refs. There are no commercials but your favorite team always has to wear some bullshit brand on their shirt. So instead of Chelsea on the shirt your team looks like it's called Samsung.

It's a beautiful sport, I like watching some games, but it can be pretty boring too. Like someone else said, it really depends if you have a team to root for.... that changes everything.

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Anyone, including a rugby player with full pads, going against a pro linebacker will land on his ass.

True, and football is kind of like chess in a way.

He was great yeah but he had 6 or 7 years at the top of the game. Messi is in his 9th season with Barcelona. I rate Messi already better than Ronaldhino, far better infact!

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It's all a matter of opinion. More disciplined all round player no doubt like I said in my original post I rate Ronaldinho the best ever only for pure skill, for the rest (in recent years) Zidane by a hair, until Messi wins something important that is :upsidedow





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Agreed. When he played for AC Milan he was already done.

DUDE, I tried to watch a NFL game, but tis fuckign boring..

They play 20 seconds, then stop 5 minutes to show off their MOTOROLA HEADSETs and GATORADE brands... then play 10 seconds and stop 5 minutes again!!! WTF??..

Who wants to watch a 3-4 hours game to only watch 60 mins of actual game? That's crazy...

I wouldn't call 36 games with 12 goals and 16 assists as a winger in 2010 winning Seria A done but at the risk of repeating myself, my opinion is that he is technically above anyone, never suggested he is a better all round player than messi. He'd would have had to stop partying for that :2 cents:






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What really kills the flow of an American Football game IMO is when they go to a fucking commercial right after a kickoff right after a commercial. They should really stop that shit it is goddamn annoying as hell!

Yeah. Apart from the fact that chess players are clever and football players are thick as pigshit.

you said it "He'd would have had to stop partying for that".


I am an AC Milan fan and i think that 36 games in two years tells you a lot.

Potentially he could have been the most spectacular player in history of the sport.

Yeah and soccer players are all geniuses. Most of them can hardly speak coherently.

You obviously don't know, but you have to be pretty smart to learn an NFL playbook, offensive or defensive.

yes yes, that's a brilliant thing to bring up because we all know soccer players were hand picked by the time they were 6 years old and worked so hard on their educations to never actually get one unlike in football where most of them get their degrees...

maybe if you see things from both sides once in a while you woudln't sound like you were talking out of your ass so often..

I respect your opinion, he was a phenomenal player, I witnessed it first hand against Celtic. The things he did with the ball during warm up were crazy. It's a shame that he let himself go, especially at a team like Milan.

Zidane was a genius, his composure and range of goal scoring ability was remarkable. I remember the World Cup Final in 1998, he tore Brazil to pieces.

Talking out of my ass?

So you disagree with my observation that chess players are clever and footballers are stupid?

Lolsome.

Some can't even sign their own name I witnessed it first hand :2 cents:





Edit : "soccer" player not NFL, I should have cut the quote.

Yeah, which is why so many go on to glittering academic careers.

Thick as arguing and trolling a senior citizen on a message board?

American Football players go to college, all of them without exception. Soccer players usually don't even finish high school.

What the hell are you talking about?

Where did I say they didn't?

Are you a football player?

I'm struggling to keep up with what part of my post you took issue with?

I am saying that never, in the history of mankind, has a football or soccer player gone on to a glittering academic career.

Sorry you're struggling with all this.

I can draw you a picture if that would help?

No, but thick as a Canadian that never posts here apart from to castigate (look it up) me for mocking Markham.

Get over yourself, kid.

I assumed, being British, you were talking about soccer players anyway( being thick). I'm not sure why people are trying to defend the intelligence of people they don't know and who don't even know they exist.

Anyone who went to school, which admittedly probably rules out quite a few people here, knows the jocks/sporty kids were dumb fucks.

Because they used to play football, or are fans of football and got butthurt I called them stupid. Obv.

And yes, I was talking about British football players being thick. But, I am 100% sure no American Football players are renowned for their glittering intellect. Which is why they get paid for running around in padding and kicking a ball, sometimes.

Course they were.