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Old 02-16-2003, 05:34 AM   #1
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Why the hell ya go & make things so complicated

I see the way you're actin' like you're somebody else gets me frustrated
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Old 02-16-2003, 05:35 AM   #2
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Ypu must be listening to Yahoo launch cast pick of the month hits or something
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Old 02-16-2003, 05:37 AM   #3
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Old 02-16-2003, 05:38 AM   #4
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I see the way you're actin' like you're somebody else gets me frustrated
Hey, that reminds me...

I noticed you changed your site design rather drastically. The new design is cool, but nowhere near the technical masterpiece of the old one.


No offense man. Just thought I'd throw my two cents at ya for the hell of it.

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Is it just me, or is EVERYONE a graphic designer lately?
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Hey, that reminds me...

I noticed you changed your site design rather drastically. The new design is cool, but nowhere near the technical masterpiece of the old one.


No offense man. Just thought I'd throw my two cents at ya for the hell of it.

the primary reason for that was because I was spending FAR too much time maintaining my own site when that time could be better spent working on projects for my clients.... simplification was needed, and achieved.

"Why the hell ya go & make things so complicated?"

Old site was nice, but far too high maintenance for someone that needs to be focusing on other things.
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Is it just me, or is EVERYONE a graphic designer lately?
ya.... there's alot of 'em.
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the question is... where did they all come from?

when I showed up, there were like 3.
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Is it just me, or is EVERYONE a graphic designer lately?
If you're referring to me, I'm not a graphics designer. Don't let my company's name fool you.

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the question is... where did they all come from?

when I showed up, there were like 3.
beats the hell outta me.... I've been working toward this since '93, so I know where I came from.... but nowdays they seem to pop up overnight by the dozen. Steal a copy of Photoshop and bang... you're a fucking designer.
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the primary reason for that was because I was spending FAR too much time maintaining my own site when that time could be better spent working on projects for my clients.... simplification was needed, and achieved.

"Why the hell ya go & make things so complicated?"

Old site was nice, but far too high maintenance for someone that needs to be focusing on other things.
Whatever makes you the most money man.

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Whatever makes you the most money man.

it ALL makes me money....
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because unlike the majority of the backyard 'designers' popping up all over the place, I give pretty damn good value for the buck. I don't just crank something out and say 'here ya go...'
I'm by no means expensive.... actually alot less than most.... I'm not the fastest, but I bust ass to try and make shit extraordinary.

but then you got guys like http://www.nzdesignz.com/ that are essentially nothing more than a fucking annoyance to the industry... they irritate designers, and waste buyer's time & money.

but.... you know..... it's that pipe dream of fast easy money I guess.... don't know where they got that idea from, but it's still bringing more every day...

it's not fast, and it's not easy..... I made exactly nothing for my first 8 months in this biz.
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I like to design shit. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
personally, I'd rather be part of the crew on a fucking boat or something.... I do this shit because I can.... not because I have any great love for it. I'd leave it in the blink of an eye if the right opportunity presented itself.
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personally, I'd rather be part of the crew on a fucking boat or something.... I do this shit because I can.... not because I have any great love for it. I'd leave it in the blink of an eye if the right opportunity presented itself.
I think this is what I want to do.. for now. There's still so much to learn. When I'm the best I can move on to the next thing. That'll take a good while though.
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but.... you know..... it's that pipe dream of fast easy money I guess.... don't know where they got that idea from, but it's still bringing more every day...
I don't know where designers get the idea of fast easy money from, but everyone else that gets in the biz with the hopes of making a quick buck probably get the idea from all the "bling" they see on our affiliate programs (not mine in particular, but in general), which of course is put there by hired designers in hopes of recruiting some starry-eyed, ambitious entrepreneur to join that program and start making "boatloads of cash" for himself. Or herself.

But that's the way things are.
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I don't know where designers get the idea of fast easy money from, but everyone else that gets in the biz with the hopes of making a quick buck probably get the idea from all the "bling" they see on our affiliate programs (not mine in particular, but in general), which of course is put there by hired designers in hopes of recruiting some starry-eyed, ambitious entrepreneur to join that program and start making "boatloads of cash" for himself. Or herself.

But that's the way things are.
lol... that's very true.... it's a vicious circle.
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personally, I'd rather be part of the crew on a fucking boat or something.... I do this shit because I can.... not because I have any great love for it. I'd leave it in the blink of an eye if the right opportunity presented itself.
Hmmmm. Troubling to hear you harbor such disdain for something that has done so well for you.

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seriously... if someone offered me a decent hourly wage for passing out wetsuits on the daily snorkel cruise, mixing a few drinks, and some occasional diving for lost gear... I'd drop this biz like a dirty whore without thinking twice about it.
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my goal has never been 'getting rich'.... only enjoying life. And I don't need much to accomplish that.... I'm already pretty much there... I can't say I don't enjoy it now.... but admitedly, this adult shit brings me more grief & headaches than pleasure.
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by the way... for those that noticed, I've been pulling an all nighter here.... that means I'm gonna be sleeping on the beach all fucking day as soon as the sun comes up here in a few hours...
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seriously... if someone offered me a decent hourly wage for passing out wetsuits on the daily snorkel cruise, mixing a few drinks, and some occasional diving for lost gear... I'd drop this biz like a dirty whore without thinking twice about it.
Interesting. But would you really be able to stay away? I mean, there is an addiction factor to the biz for whatever reason. Be it the money, the fact that it's tits and ass, or just the fact that "the sky's the limit" as to one's success potential.

Even just hanging out at this board can be addicting. Believe me, I never thought I'd post so much here. Never wanted to get beyond 100 posts. But here I am. For whatever reason. And it's not like I don't have a business to run.

LOL
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Hmmmm. Troubling to hear you harbor such disdain for something that has done so well for you.

bah....


i just don't fucking care anymore. It's all just work. I still find passion in it, but only when I'm deep into the heart of a design job.... the rest of it is fucking tedious.
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Interesting. But would you really be able to stay away? I mean, there is an addiction factor to the biz for whatever reason. Be it the money, the fact that it's tits and ass, or just the fact that "the sky's the limit" as to one's success potential.
not a problem....

if I ever leave the biz, it will be complete. I don't do anything half assed.... and I usually make it into a large memorable spectacle.
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fuck it....

I got 18350 posts of bitching and complaining about everything under the sun.... I don't think there's much left for me to bitch about.... I should probly just shut the fuck up now and move on, let somebody else take over the role of bitchmaster, and start enjoying what I got.....

if it's not off my chest by now, it never will be. I've fucking run out of shit to post about.
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if it's not off my chest by now, it never will be. I've fucking run out of shit to post about.
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fuck it....

I got 18350 posts of bitching and complaining about everything under the sun.... I don't think there's much left for me to bitch about.... I should probly just shut the fuck up now and move on, let somebody else take over the role of bitchmaster, and start enjoying what I got.....

if it's not off my chest by now, it never will be. I've fucking run out of shit to post about.
Just remember, there's newbies born every minute. There's always gonna be something to bitch about.

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There ya go, Amp. See what I mean?

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