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crockett · 10-24-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Those were the years of the Internet bubble

And saying that giving your money to bureaucrats in Washington D.C. "gets money flowing back into the economy" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

People spending their own money is what stimulates the economy.

What do you do for a living anyway? Are you an employee or do you actually own a business? And if so...are you in the Adult biz? Just curious where you get your ideas from.

You didn't read what he said. You didn't actually pay out that 250k in taxes.. You reinvested it back into your company to get the tax credit, instead of hiding it in some Caribbean bank or some hedge fund. This spurs growth for the economy as a whole and was one of the reasons it grew so much under Clinton.

Back then I was running a pretty large landscaping company that I started when I was still in high school. My parents owned a large commercial cleaning company as well as a temp service. I didn't pay anymore in taxes under Clinton because I'd buy a new piece of equipment or something to expand the business.

This is money that went right back into the economy. It's what everyone did.

Roald · 10-24-2012, 12:20 PM

Much yes.

Paul Markham · 10-24-2012, 12:43 PM

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People spending their own money is what stimulates the economy.

And the people the Government employ don't spend any money.

Robbie's approach is like so many peoples, in so many countries, pure greed.

Money that goes into the Government, doesn't disappear. It goes out again and floods across the country. It goes into so many things and so many peoples pockets, including his. INCLUDING the money borrowed.

Cutting taxes and cutting spending doesn't work to get an economy back on it's feet. Robbie spending $100 a week more in his shops, will mean someone else spending $100 less. His cuts in spending and taxes created nothing. Romney can't do it and neither can Obama.

To get an economy back on it's feet needs investment in new home produced products. Not people spending more on imported goods. Which is what will result from more tax cuts.

The way out of this mess is more taxes, not less. Sales tax so everyone pays. And import taxes. So imported goods with foreign labour help support the country they are made in. AND income taxes raised. Yes, you ran up a huge debt, it's time to start paying it back.

Cutting spending = cutting jobs. Which means less people buying and it trickles down and up.

And the debt stays the same, unless you want the next Great Depression to hit the world. Look into the real reasons it happened. The Stock Market crash was only one part.

RyuLion · 10-24-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Personally, yes, very much so.

xNetworx · 10-24-2012, 02:03 PM

Yes much better. 2008-2009 was a fucking joke

epitome · 10-24-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

He's never even gotten the Democrats to vote for his budgets. Hasn't had one budget in his term. Pathetic.

The President does not set the budget. He submits something that is considered a wish list and any voting on it is symbolic and irrelevant.

It is the job of Congress only to decide how federal tax dollars are being spent. All the President can do is make requests and submit what he hopes to get for his own branch of government as well as other things.

This does a good job of breaking it down and explaining how Romney's statement was technically right but how it doesn't mean anything at all:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-pass-budget/

Robbie · 10-24-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

. I didn't pay anymore in taxes under Clinton because I'd buy a new piece of equipment or something to expand the business.

This is money that went right back into the economy. It's what everyone did.

I've never bought anything that I didn't need just to use it as a write-off.

No matter what under that scenario..your money is still gone and you're that much poorer when it's gone.

I buy supplies, computers, phones, etc. out of necessity to operate every day. And I write off everything I can. Why on earth would people go out of their way to buy a bunch of stuff they might not need to get a write-off? That's not good business. And it's un-American to even think of ways to force people to buy shit they don't need.

I'd rather spend my money on a nice vacation for my family. Or a new car. Or some nice clothes. It doesn't matter how I spend it...it still goes into the economy and the federal govt career politicians in Washington, D.C. never have to get involved or get their greedy hands on MY money.

Paul Markham · 10-24-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I'd rather spend my money on a nice vacation for my family. Or a new car. Or some nice clothes. It doesn't matter how I spend it...it still goes into the economy and the federal govt career politicians in Washington, D.C. never have to get involved or get their greedy hands on MY money.

A nice vacation in the US, a US made car, US made clothes?

Which is exactly what the people the Government employ spend their money on.

Maybe Robbie is like many Americans and their anti taxes stand comes from pre War of Independence. When much of the taxes went to Great Britain.In 2012 it goes to Washington and from there to here.

To keep people working, support the system around you.

Do some just want all that stopped so they can buy more clothes, cars and holidays?

And stop others who benefit from the spending doing the same. They might even stop buying porn memberships.

Yes, examine where the spending is done, yes cut where you can. But that cut will take money out of another persons pocket and he might be buying porn online.

It's 2012 not 1773.

Robbie · 10-24-2012, 03:44 PM

Paul you are such an obvious troll.

If you enjoy sending your hard earned money to a bunch of lifetime politicians and bureaucrats then be my guest. I believe that people working REAL jobs in the private sector can spend their money in that same private sector and the economy will do great. Always has.

Nicky · 10-24-2012, 05:53 PM

Yes I am

Paul Markham · 10-24-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Paul you are such an obvious troll.

If you enjoy sending your hard earned money to a bunch of lifetime politicians and bureaucrats then be my guest. I believe that people working REAL jobs in the private sector can spend their money in that same private sector and the economy will do great. Always has.

Yes IT always did. Now it means people buying imported goods.

It would be great if we could turn the clocks back to a time when the Third World didn't produce so much for the First.

We have to accept the fact the World has changed and the odds of changing it back are slim at best. Let the First World stay up front in the technology race and produce the goods workers in a Third World sweat shop can't. Yes bring back what jobs we can.

Those that produce the high value goods earning high waged have to accept not everyone can do this and pay for those who can't to work in support industries. Some of it will be in Malls and some in Public sector. Or are you saying just cut all those working in public sector adrift?

Which is where you send your tax money today. Politicians spend it in the US. They don't keep it.

PornoMonster · 10-25-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Yes. Since I can and have purchased health insurance (thanks Obama!) I am sick a fraction of what I used to be which means I work more and earn more.

So, what did you have that is now under control or cured?

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