When this war starts, we're going to tell you to jump, and by god, you *will* jump for us.

i get the feeling when the time comes the majority of the UK will be with you, if not our government will be.

Well, its been what, 12 years and they haven't even stopped shooting at our planes let alone disarm.

I guess if we give them another 6 months, they completely disarm right?

dope.

The UK is our staunchest ally. We would die for them and they would die for us.
Our loyalty to each other is not in question. We each have dopey protesters. We each know how to ignore them and do the right thing.
It's the rest of the euro-pansies who will be told to jump.

With the current UN resolution, Iraq will get disarmed, unless they stop cooperating, in which case we'd attack them.

12clicks is right - This war never ended.

Has anyone forgotten what started this? Kuwait? Iraq walked in, killed tens of thousands, raped their women, looted their cites, and then set fire to their oil wells as they retreated while getting their asses kicked all the back to Iraq.

Bullshit. Kill them all.

wake up. They've never cooperated. They aren't now.

If your spineless and just wish there were no war, say so but stop pretending the US is wrong with the war or its timing.

I never said the US was wrong with the war.

They are wrong *IF* they go to war without the UN.

If the UN agrees to attack Iraq, I say every country should help and make this war as quick and effective as possible.

My only complaint is that we have waited too long already, Iraq has strung us along from 1 resolution to the next, the ONLY way to disarm him is by force and I think that he will have a bit of a shock when he gets it, because 10 years ago there were very few GPS weapons, now we have some amazing technology, it's 10 times better than in the 90's, he really won't know what's hit him and it will be over in weeks this time, job done, if we get it right.

Thanks for answering my question :winkwink:

I might as well hit this dopey rant as well.

Because the muslim world is hiding him if he's still alive. You know, those peaceful muslims.

you're right. That's what makes the protesters wrong. Look at the protests Einstien. They are ALL anti American/anti Bush/ anti war. Look at the banners and signs.
Those of you who are anti war or just stupid. Nothing wrong with that, who would the smart ones get over on if there were no dumb ones? :)

No, its more like we're doing the worlds job and no one supports us.

please show me a quote from the administation saying this. otherwise, shut the fuck up with your lies.

Saddam is sitting in his palaces laughing his ass off because a good chunk of the world is too blind with American hate to notice what he's doing. It's called stalling. He's obviously smart, he can do whatever he want because he knows the UN will stall any Iraqi attack and/or punish those who do decide to strike.

He gives up just enough information to please a few people and delay an attack. Then problems start. He reveals a little more information while under pressure. Again, attack is stalled.

It's a fucking game. And he's winning. He's giving up just enough pussy to please the softcore surfer, but not enough to please the hardcore surfer. Fuck softcore.

The UN does agree. If a vote were taken, it would overwhelmingly vote for war. Unfortunately, some people who are buying iraqi oil, have veto power.

.They are wrong *IF* they go to war without the UN.

The UN has issued a number of resolutions since the early 90's,resolution 1441 say's that if Iraq does not account for a list of weapons thay admitted having years ago and hard them over for distruction or explain where they are they would be in breach

They have not - for hardly any of the weapons,

They are also in breach by having misiles that exceeed the prohibited range and flaunt the resolution in many ways

The resolution say's "grave concequences will follow of the reolution is not followed"


All members of the UN signed this, so to go against it now would be not following what was supposed to be the final resolution, it would make the UN a farce.


If the US / UK forcefully disarmed Iraq they would be following the resolution not breaking it as other countries propose

Has anyone seen or read <u>Sum of all Fears</u>?

wait until we start flexing our muscles.
the *people* of the US are tired of the fucking french, tired of the other obstructionists of europe. When the american people have had it with you, you're in trouble.:321GFY

I disagree with you 12 Clits

It's called stalling. He's obviously smart, he can do whatever he want because he knows the UN will stall

I think you are right, the UN will be divided, but I would be willing to bet good money on a US/UK attack by the end of March, It won't wash this time, both leaders are willing if neccessary to go against public opinion be strong, and sort the country out, give freedon and the democracy that we enjoy to them, in 10 years the people will be forever greatful.

How can you say that , what am I lying about lol. You know the tone of the nation, unless you live in a cave lol. I choose not blindly believe, I think so I need proof, I love my country and having a opinion that doesnt follow the herd is my right and makes my country great in case you forgot. Muslims are hiding bin laden so that means we give up on finding him and go on to the easy one lol.We know for a fact Bin Laden caused 9/11 his head on a platter should still be the main focus until its achieved. That will stop more terrorism because it shows fuck with us and we will hunt you down til the end of days. Also I always find it so amusing the most ball less people are the ones that talk toughest on the web lol.

I'll lose sleep over it, I'm sure.

A person with your lack of knowledge should not be posting unless you just enjoy displaying your ignorance and lack of insight.

How will we be in trouble???

So why don't the US bring this up? Comon dude...

Fact is, Hussein can try whatever he wants, he UN inspectors are there, and if he doesn't cooperate, the UN will attack.

There are multiple steps in resolving a crisis, as there is in entering war.

Step 1: Try to resolve the crisis by diplomatic manners, or adopt UN resolutions to deal with the conflict (in this case, send UN inspectors to disarm Iraq).

Step 2: If step 1 fails, attack them. If it succeed, no need to attack.

Any country who skips step 1 is causing great damage to international right. I am not concerned about the US attacking Iraq, I am concerned with all the other countries that will use this as an excuse to justify a war against another country (china vs pakistan or india, ETC).

America is the greatest power in the world, but with great power comes great resonsibilites. If Hussein is a menace, the UN will agree to attack. One step at a time.

You'll be in trouble... if the Americans can find your country... but with their knowledge of world geography I wouldn't be too concerned!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Well Tony you are lucky to live in the US or which ever country you are in, because if you disagreed with Saddam in Iraq you would probarbly be subject to the "systematic widespread abuse and torture inflicted on the people of Iraq by their Government" not my words!

These include acid baths, cutting off of hands and other bits of the body, the most unimaginable painful tortues.

The guy has even killed many members of his family, his brother and he regularly sleeps with women and then personally tortures and kills them.

Step 1: Try to resolve the crisis by diplomatic manners, or adopt UN resolutions to deal with the conflict (in this case, send UN inspectors to disarm Iraq).

Obvouisly you have not followed the UN resolutions for the last 10 years idiot, they have tried every route, only trading with Iraq for medicines and aid, and so on.

He blocks the aid and deliberatly starves the people, they all failed.

Next lol! I am George W lol

Agreed, but there's a double standard.

There are many other evil dictators. Why only get rid of Hussein?

If you decide to get rid of evil dictators, get rid of them all, not only this one.

Meanwhile, in North Korea, there's a dictator that ADMITTED having nuclear weapons, and threatened to use them.

Well all the countries sitting at the UN are idiots. They have resolutions that allow them to attack, but suddenly "forgot" about them.

What the fuck will attacking Iraq now will change? There is tremendous pressure right now on the inspections, and if they fail, there will be war.

What more do you want?

I can keep pointing out your lie if you'd like to keep childishly pretending its not here:

Go find a quote from the administration that says,"if you disagree with us you are unamerican"

you won't because you're a liar. :321GFY


The tone of the nation is the tone of the people not the administration. You'd know that unless you went to school in a cave.

Thoughtful people don't need to wait for the kind of "proof" you need.

ah, yes. Call the majority the herd. yeah, you're *so* much smarter than the *majority*
Muslims are hiding bin laden so that means we lgive all the other terrorists free rein. We can't possibly do 2 things at once. After all, if bidladen releases another tape from the hole he's hiding in, it will be the end of us. lol

The simple minded do one thing at a time. The rest of us do as many things that *need* to be done as possible.

Ask around, I'll happily tell you all this to your face, tough guy. lol

I live in the USA . Its terrible what happens to those people in Iraq but with our economy in the toilet to me this isnt the best time to play world savoir.

Iraq HAS used chemical / bio weap. before and Korea is a future threat, but we have not had 10 years of talks and UN pressure on Korea yet, we have with Iraq, which is deemed the greatest risk / biggest threat the world faces today, if he is allowed to keep collecting this shit, (which the US under UN agreements cannot develop), the risk is that we may have planes and missiles but he could have something of equal power, a nuclear bomb, or chemical weapons, WW3....

Great will you be at internext in Aug? I like making new friends:)
If trashing me makes you feel special God bless you, I am glad I can help.

From what I understand the US has been very clever and has developed sound weapons which are highly effective, I think we may see these used very soon, the UN have not banned them yet, they include very low frequency vibrations which affect the brain

if pointing out your lies is what you call trashing you, God bless you, I'm glad I can help.

and you are the great speaker of the truth. lol You're a funny guy

That's the same as thinking there are terrorists in position to attack but aren't. I don't buy that for a second! If they could nuke DC, NY, and LA tomorrow morning they fucking would.

I in no way think Iraq had anything to do with the Attacks on Sept. 11th. But that still doesn't mean that he is abidding by the 17 UN Resolutions of the last 12 years.

Take out Saddam, and you stabalize the entire region!

We need to be united the whole world over, as many countries as we can to show Iraq that there is only one choice. He feeds on our weakness and Germany, France and other countries are making him more dangerous.

Then we should disarm the US, shouldn't we? :)

It may seem like a double standard. However, he invaded two other countries in 90/91. These other dictators you speak of have not.

Yes, lets take away their weapons of mass destruction. They can't be trusted.