I totally agree with you.

The world is united, expect US and UK.

I am sure that if Hussein fails to disarm within 6 months, the world will be united and will want to attack Iraq. One step at a time...

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I expect 10x more terrorist attacks on US after Bush attacks IRAQ...

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If only we had the strength to show them what happens when innocent people living in a free world, honest decent people are killed.

They would jump to attack us anyway, the only way to stop these terrorist attacks is to stand up to them, and stop them getting arms that Saddam and other countries are making.

North Korea never attacked another country or caused a crisis?

And when Iraq invaded Iran, the US supported and helped them.

I believe both dictators should be removed, starting with North Korea.

wow, you fold up like a cheap suit once you're pressed to prove your story.

I like that in a poster.

The world is united, expect US and UK.

I am sure that if Hussein fails to disarm within 6 months, the world will be united and will want to attack Iraq. One step at a time...



No, No, No, this WAS the final resolution of 10 years worth of resolutions, he always dangles a carot for the UN at the last minute which causes a country or 2 to issue another resolution, thats why it's been 10 years....

Are economies are being damaged by the ever looming threat of war, like I said they think this time it would only take weeks, lets get in and get out and get on.

Again, share you proofs, please. That's all France and Germany and the rest of the world want.

I'm not saying Hussein isn't selling arms, but since you seem to know for a fact, you must have proofs. And if you don't, and just believe everything our government tells you, then you're a fool.

That being said, let's disarm Iraq :)

hahahahaha, stop reading the french news papers.

Dealing with N. Korea is slightly more tedious, that is unless you'd like to see S. Korea and Japan hit buy a Nuke.

The Korean conflict was over 50 years ago. They have attacked anyone in the last 12 years.

The difference between N. Korea and Iraq is that Iraq has run out of time. Do you think they won't be dealt with?

Bottom line! Don't deal with Iraq now, we'll have to in due time and he maybe a nuclear power then. Then he could blackmail the world like Kim Jong Ill is doing now.

Lol, good one, but I don't read the french news papers :)

All I was saying is that most of the world is against a war with Iraq without concrete evidence, but some countries are affraid to say it, like China, cause they depend on the US for economical reasons.

what an assclown.

Hussein has chemical and biological weapons. They are the biggest threat from terrorists. They are what could kill thousands in the hands of a few terrorists.

If you think that its ok for Hussein to have these weapons, then you believe everything fraqnce says and you are a fool.

Show you proof???

What do you think they are producing this stuff for? the most deadly chemical weapons available, so dangerous that 1mg could kill hundreds of people, in the hands of a man who has used them on more than 1 occasion before and has a passion to hate America, was sept 11th not a warning of how dangerous these people can be and how little regard they have for innocent human life?

Take weeks? But I thought you said:

So if it takes weeks to disarm them, let the inspectors do it :)

wrong. No one is afraid to say it. france and germany are in the minority no matter how you pretend they aren't. :winkwink:

That is so far from the truth it is insane.

Only The French, Germans, Russia, and China are against this. Oh and Belgium too. Most of the Middle East is behind us.

With France and Germany it's only about oil.

Don't misquote me.

I agree with disarming Iraq. THEY SHOULD BE DISARMED NOW.

I said that many times. All I said is that it must be done right, witht the UN approval, to avoid future crisis.

But for god's sake, DISARM IRAQ.

You know what I am talking about of course no one came out and said that. The tone comes from the top, it just doesnt appear. I was a rush limbaugh republican and voted for w. What turned me off was when all that corporate scandals came and all those poor old people lost their retirement and I waited for him to speak up and he said nothing. My feelings changed that point and maybe thats why I am more judgemental. Here I gave you more ammo have fun lol. I had a shiity day and this has been the most fun I had lol.

Of course, Iraq needs to be disarmed... with or without war, we'll see. Will this make the region more stable? I don't know. The inspectors can't find the weapons. What makes you think they will be found after the war is over? You then might have some local dickheads having control over the weapons...

Well there are 5 veto powers, right?

China, France, Russia are against this war

UK and US are for it.

Who's in minority?

Anyways, if there are proofs that Iraq is fucking with the inspectors, and that the 3 countries against this war don't change their position, I say remove their veto. Untill then...

So what Colin Powell should on the 5th was what? A lie?? Is that what you think?

Also, the French and Germans won't even agree to help a charter member of NATO in Turkey. They are going to tear NATO apart, and it's going to be their fault.

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Are economies are being damaged by the ever looming threat of war, like I said they think this time it would only take weeks, lets get in and get out and get on.
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Take weeks? But I thought you said:


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Iraq is huge

They could be hidden in several buildings anywhere in or even outside of the country
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So if it takes weeks to disarm them, let the inspectors do it

The stuff could take ages to find, but a war with Iraq could speel the end of Saddams rule and a turn around of the country, the inspectors cannot disarm Iraq, that has been proven, let the experts go in and do it by force.

No tricks, no pretend officials, no more moving stuff, and the end of Saddam.

Insane? read the post above about the countries with veto powers.

And I'll repeat it for people with short attention span; I am not against or for a war. I am for the disarmement or Iraq.

And you don't think 6 months from now the same people aren't going to crying to give it more time?

You're dreaming - there is no better time than now. - Period.

Then your problem should be with the UN, not the US.
Can you *really* not understand that?

Ok I see what you mean. It seems like a logical choice if the inspections fails.

I think this is the french position to isn't it? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What's really funny is that that's ALL that France has. A veto in the UN. And it was a fucking token gesture given to them after they got assfucked by the Germans in WWII.

I tell you this. Many.... MANY people it the US can't comprehend the fact that the French would side with the Germans over the US. And France will rue the day they did too.

I don't have a problem with the US at all, I never said that.

All I am trying to say is that we live in a world where there is an organisation called the "United Nations". We contributed to creating and maintaining this organisation, and we can't just start ignoring it; it would have great consequenses.

Do you understand what I am saying?

I'm not talking about the Joke of a UN. I'm talking about the countries in the world.

The UN is becoming a joke.

Well there are 5 veto powers, right?

China, France, Russia are against this war

UK and US are for it.

Who's in minority?

Anyways, if there are proofs that Iraq is fucking with the inspectors, and that the 3 countries against this war don't change their position, I say remove their veto. Untill then...

You may be right but remember that not all counties have veto powers, I am not sure which do and don't.

And anyway all of these countries have already signed up to 1441 which say's that further seroius action will be used if iraq does not comply, they have not complied, if nothing other than more weapons inspectors being sent in happens then 1441 has been broken by the counties who veto's it not by the US / UK

LOL

I think the French position is against the war. :)

Would that be the same UN that just appointed Lybia as the Head of the Human Rights Commission? Maybe the same UN that has named Iraq the Head of the newly made "Disarmament Committee"?

They are a Joke, that is heading down the path of the League of Nations.

I think it's a shame we have to live our lives in fear, I was looking at the news the other day, rocket lauchers in the US, we have tanks and army on the streets of London and about 10 airports, people being caught with granades, ricin poison, a policeman shot by a suspected terrorist group producing poison, and out economical centres feating bomb/ plane attacks, it's wrong

5 countries have veto powers. They were named.

1441 is being enforced, give it time.

Blix said that so far Iraq is complying, and it is what keep france and other countries against war.

Whatever Blix says, you MUST have UN approval to attack. As you pointed to me, the UN already gave the approval if Iraq didn't comply. So until Iraq is PROVEN not to be complying, chill :)

There's no fucking point in this.

BLIX DID NOT SAY THEY WERE COMPLYING! WHO THE FUCK TO YOU THAT?????

I'm not saying UN is absolutely right in all its action.

Even if UN is a joke, great consequences can emerge from not following its rules. Do you want China, Pakistan and India to start nuking each other? Even if you wouldn't be touched personally, it would create a preceding, and other nations would try to justify wars with it.

DID HE FUCKING SAY THEY WERE NOT COMPLYING?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE!

Blix said that so far Iraq is complying It's the same delaying tactics that have been used for 10 years, everyone but us (US,UK)is just too stupid to see it.. we have been here before and more than once, some people just have short memories, well I don't think they are going to take any more, we WILL go to war without the UN...


Face it, we know there will be no backing for a war from at least 1 of the veto countries...

and we know neither George W Bush or Tony Blair can go back on what they have said, it would be political suicide.

There's your answer, and the media know this.

DID HE FUCKING SAY THEY WERE NOT COMPLYING?

Correct it's all words and delaying tactics.

Only in YOUR mind.

I heard (from Hans Blix) they have NOT accounted for 1000 tons of antrax and bocholinin. Won't allow U2 flyovers. Have an illegal missle program, and until recently demanded monitors when they were breifing their weapons program personel.

Most importantly there disclosure about there weapons were totally false and unfounded.

So if the above means compliance. Yes by all means they are complying.

Did you see Blix's first report in January?

1441 puts the burden on Iraq. If you haven't read it maybe you should.

http://www.un.org/Docs/scres/2002/sc2002.htm

I am off to bed now, but sleep well tonight and hope that a crop sprayer doesn't fly over a small part of the US with Ricin Botulin (or whatever it's called - can't be bothered to look it up now) anthrax and the other substances he has developed, because if that happens we could lose millions of innocent people not 20,000, which was just the worst thing I have ever seen in my life, oh what a short memory people have.

bye